The Ambrosia of Life

[theist]

Sorry Vaisnava, I can't really explain much. I know there is a conversation where Prabhupada and Sridhar Maharaja were discussing this. They were talking that Sadasiva is Maha-vishnu.

[krishnabhakht]

I am just reproducing what JN Das prabhu said in one of the threads

 

The shiva-tattva category refers to the unlimited forms of Lord Shiva, from Sadashiva and Shambhu down to his lower material counterparts. As all vishnu-tattva forms are a single personality, in the same way all the shiva-tattva forms are a single personality expanding in a variety of forms. The shiva-tattva category refers to the unlimited forms of Lord Shiva, from Sadashiva and Shambhu down to his lower material counterparts. As all vishnu-tattva forms are a single personality, in the same way all the shiva-tattva forms are a single personality expanding in a variety of forms. Though Lord Shiva is eternal and beyond time , some of his forms manifested in the material world are temporary. They do not undergo death or the influence of time, but they are withdrawn by Lord Shiva according to his will (and later remanifested in the next creation). Lord shiva manifests his countless forms in each and every universe, of which there are innumerable. The shiva-tattva is a unique expansion from the vishnu-tattva for the purpose of interacting with the material nature. Vishnu, being nirguna, does not come in contact with the material nature. Instead he acts through the shiva-tattva, just as a cook indirectly stirs boiling soup with the help of a spoon, some of his forms manifested in the material world are temporary. They do not undergo death or the influence of time, but they are withdrawn by Lord Shiva according to his will (and later remanifested in the next creation). Lord shiva manifests his countless forms in each and every universe, of which there are innumerable. The shiva-tattva is a unique expansion from the vishnu-tattva for the purpose of interacting with the material nature. Vishnu, being nirguna, does not come in contact with the material nature. Instead he acts through the shiva-tattva, just as a cook indirectly stirs boiling soup with the help of a spoon

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Manni, I found your question interesting as i have been studying Vedic literature for 16 years- and never come to the end! The devas, or demigods have lifespans that to us would seem 'eternal'- that is hundreds of thousands of years, but they are jivatmas -Krsma's separated energy, as are we, but are like the 'trustees' in this durga (or prison-house), as they are reaping the effects of their previous-lives' pious activities. They have super-human powers also as a result of their karma, but act under the direction of Krsna, the Supreme Godhead. However when these 'pious credits' run out, they have to return to earth, to take rebirth as a human and then, as you say, have the chance of becoming Krsna's devotees and return to Goloka Vrndavana in the spiritual sky - never to take birth or death in this material world again. (As said by Krsna to Arjuna in the Bhagavad-gita). One more point: in your first paragraph you mention Rohini and the pot of nectar. This was actually 'Mohini-murti' an incarnation of Lord Krsna. Do hope this is of interest to you. S S