kailasa Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 The answer similar is, that everyone, who should fall, already have fallen. The spiritual world is absolute, therefore it already has taken place from this point of view. Now there is a question when it has taken place? On this question it is impossible to give the answer, because in the spiritual world there is no material time. In the material world there is a past and future, but in the spiritual world it is absent. All aspects of the spiritual world are eternal is shown eternally and simultaneously with other aspects. In what moment of time the soul crosses border of the material world? At the moment where the time simply is not present. To speak that who that will fall in "future" probably, because crossing border of the material world, the soul can show itself at any moment of time, as she comes here from absolute space, which covers by itself all - both past and future. Actually fall occurs from eternity therefore question "when" it is deprived of sense as a matter of fact. As time, material mind and material reason occur after fall, therefore leaning on material mind and material reason to understand a principle of fall not probably. But leaning on sastra, it is quite possible to understand it. Thus, go on for limits of the material world, it is possible to understand that nobody falls from the spiritual world, because all wishing have fallen at the uncertain moment of time. The soul comes here from an absolute category. And THIS CATEGORY ON INFINITY SURPASSES And COVERS by ITSELF ALL CUMULATIVE TIME of ALL MATERIAL WORLD. Though the material world as is eternal, nevertheless spiritual life on infinity surpasses material! Therefore how it is possible to speak about the concrete moment of time? Therefore is nitya-baddha and nitya-siddha, nitya-siddha never fall, because the material nature has not won them, and nitya-baddha have chance to return to the primary situation. " There are two kinds of living entities: nitya-siddha and nitya-baddha. Nitya-siddha means they never fall a victim of mдyд. That is nitya-siddha. Even though they are within this material world, they are never victimized. That is called nitya-siddha. And one who is victimized, he is called nitya-baddha. But the actual constitutional position of every living entity is nitya-siddha, because God is eternal and His part and parcels, the living entities, they are also eternal. So that is nitya-siddha. Nitya-siddha, sдdhana-siddha, kеpд-siddha — there are different grades. They are all described in The Nectar of Devotion. So one can become sдdhana-siddha. By following the rules and regulations and instructions of the spiritual master, he can also become siddha. He can become again nitya-siddha. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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