Bhaktivinoda vani

December 8, 2002

Yes, Gaudiya Vaisnavism it manjari bhava. In Gaura lila top it "to become" the approached companion the Lord Caitanya.

That relates to the Lord Caitanya. What are the relation sakhi bhava or manjari bhava? Or and that and another? Most likely it in the greater degree sakhi bhava, but is discussed including that can know only manjari. In Krisna lila, gopis it is the girlfriends, it carries the certain character. Somewhat as the girlfriend, each of gopi has the relations as. Therefore situation the girlfriend gives only certain spectrum of the relations, while manjari receive access in a complete degree. Therefore situation manjari is higher.

In lila the Lord Caitanya the situation is those. Lord Caitanya it also is Radharani. Therefore role Radharani plays Swarupa Damodara and Ramananda Roy as. Actually role Radharani play somewhat many, though formally it can concerns only to direct expansion Lalita devi. Such dialogue with Lord Caitanya externally looks as sakhi bhava, but is real Lord Caitanya opens devotee all aspects madhurya of rase.

In some sense there is no basic difference between Swarupa Damodara and Ramananda Roy, it is the naturally different persons, nevertheless it simply a little different roles only externally only. Swarupa Damodara and Ramananda Roy somewhat one person.

It is undoubtedly necessary to understand that many companions the Lord Caitanya are at this level. Having considered these relations, it is undoubtedly possible to move further both further and further through all others devotee, which is boundless devoted service. Most likely it is necessary to begin from other companions the Lord Caitanya, gradually coming nearer to most exalted to things. Nevertheless as it suddenly became so all is urgent that "above and below", therefore is spoken that ALL devotee Lord Caitanya are at one level. Even great panditas, is written in CC, who could not determine above and who below. There are only two persons, which nevertheless are slightly allocated.

It Gadadhara Pandit, internal energy, which for clearer example is in general in separation and Srivasa Pandit. Let's notice however that in parampara Gadadhara Pandit some branches are written that certainly which, as though to tell softly - not absolutely standard. Business in that that Gadadhara Pandit embodiment by ALL! Internal energy, He also represents internal energy widely. For example Vallabhacarya it is one of branches Sri Gadadhara Pandit.

In general sraddha it is essence of fidelity or internal energy, nevertheless pure fidelity In PANCA TATTVA represents Srivasa Pandit ki jaya! In the comments on a verse SBST in anubhasya -

" There are specific symptoms by which the internal devotees and the unalloyed or pure devotees are to be known. All unalloyed devotees are sakti-tattvas, or potencies of the Lord. "

That there is no difference between approached devotee and pure devotee. There there are no contradictions, is uniform science. Simply spontaneously studying an empire of internal energy the person early or late will get confused.

Probably who that meditates extremely on Krisna lila, it is wonderful. Probably who has understood that even a prime target Krisna lila, superb, but stand, it not is ALL Gaudiya Vaisnavism. SBT describes three rules - Krisna lila, Gaura lila also person can is both there and there. SBT the separation above undoubtedly, but now not about it specifies with the link that. Essence that we should adequately understand sastra what to not make a various sort understanding. SBT does not specify in first Krisna lila as a prime target. Whether He specifies THREE situations on this subject in His famous Jaiva dharma.

Therefore SBT specifies the same purpose, as SP. Therefore reading SBT it is possible as all to understand adequately and present sastra and reflects the adequate approach.

kailasa

December 9, 2002

"Actually Krsna eternally enjoys the rasa dance and other pastimes with

the goddesses of Vraja in Vrndavana forest."

Most isoteric a situation is manjari, but most secret desire everything, it to have the relation with Krisna. Because everyone is a particle Krisna, because manjari reflect mood Radha and consequently that all gopi are the property Krisna.

If Svarupa Damodara a direct embodiment, Ramananda Ray occupies a situation even above.

In deeper sense and Ramananda Ray works both as sakhi and as manjari (as what that the moments know only Radha and manjari). Thus circle manjaris includes all who the Lord Caitanya follow in the steps Goswamis and all approached companions. Most likely that the approached companions the Lord Caitanya simultaneously both sakhis and manjaris.

In Gaura lila Ramananda Ray is even is more, because He as Arjuna or is in the friendly relations. Therefore SP has told that in spiritual life the word "is impossible" meets only at the fools.

December 11, 2002

Thus Srila Prabhupada as pure devotee has presented to the basic top of pure fidelity. By him from His point of view it also is pure fidelity.

For example Jaganandana Pandit the embodiment queen Satyabhama in Prema-vivarta for example writes the following -

“ The pure devotee, who attains his original, spiritual form, renders unalloyed devotional service to Srimati Radharani and Sri Krsna in Vraja in the mood of a gopi.

“ One who acts on the transcendental platform of rendering devotional service in the mood of the damsels of Vrndavana can alone cultivate real spiritual life.

“ Parakiya-bhava, or conjugal mellows in the relationship of a paramour, is available in Vraja alone. Whereas this same relationship in Vaikuntha is absent between Lord Narayana and Laksmi-devi and is considered immoral.

Thus it is possible to understand that the various races are transformed up to a level of fidelity Goloka Vrndavana in dialogue with Lord Caitanya. Therefore there come so much persons what to participate in games the Lord Caitanya.

Therefore Srila Prabhupada does not emphasize other moments. Undoubtedly that Srila Prabhupada gives all spiritual knowledge, but it the person should rise at first up to the certain point KC, then she can realize a situation Krisna lila and Gaura lila, if we really follow in the steps Gosvamis. Actually in conformity with Srila Prabhupada at first person rises on a level Krisna lila (SB) and ambassador, on a level of games the Lord Caitanya. It as confirms Narottama dasa Thakur and Srila Bhaktivinoda.

Srila Prabhupada writes that becoming devotee the Lord Caitanya, the person can enter a circle approached devotee. The first value of this rule is, that the person can rise on a level madhurya of rase as a whole, because most likely 99,99 % have no to madhurya to rase of any relation and never it had. But it the second rule it to rise on a level madhurya of rase in lila the Lord Caitanya. It can be made by those who will go further than sambhoga Krisna lila, those who will go in the steps Gosvamis up to the end, it and is Gaudiya Vaisnavism in the pure state.

Manjaris are happy by happiness Srimati Radharani, as have handed itself over Her. Sakhis are happy by the relations with Krisna. But the approached devotee Lord Caitanya are in a role Srimati Radharani somewhat even more. As in this case there is no spiritual rivalry.

Lord Caitanya it is all force of devoted service. Lord Caitanya is shipped in the boundless emotions. By Him the force of fidelity the Lord Caitanya surpasses even emotions of greatness Vaikuntha. Even the goddess Satyabhama has forgotten about Vaikuntha. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif the Dance the Lord Caitanya is compared to rasa dance Vrndavana, but dance the Lord Caitanya even not most isoteric aspect. Lord Caitanya it is life of each soul. Caitanya is a primary vital force. Caitanya it not brahman and not Vaikuntha, "сaitanya" it prema bhakti Goloka Vrndavana. Lord Caitanya this devoted service go everywhere. Lord Caitanya also is transcenental love not meeting of obstacles, it anybody can not so work can only Lord Caitanya.

" I know no one but Kеслa as my Lord, and He shall remain so even if He handles me roughly by His embrace or makes me brokenhearted by not being present before me. He is completely free to do anything and everything, for He is always my worshipful Lord unconditionally. "

Lord Caitanya it is light, but Lord Caitanya it and night as. Sometimes His mood becomes as night, when huge typhoon, closes all sky. There comes night and all rest disappears from a field of sight. There is more nothing, the time stops as, one second becomes as 12 years. In 12 years there will pass only first second and in 12 years second will pass only......

Srila Bhaktivinoda began the sermon and Srila Prabhupada and has delivered this mature fruit of devoted service. Srila Madhavendra Puri has sown it seed of devoted service and from this seed the tree the Lord Caitanya has grown. Lord Caitanya it is the gardener looking after for this tree. The tree has set of branches both set of colours and fruits. And the mature fruit of all fidelity also is submitted Srila Prabhupada. He as is submitted and SBT, but SBT gives all spectrum of the relations, whereas SP specifies one mood.

It not a question "yours" acarya, "ours" acarya, are a question of spiritual life.

Srila Prabhupada is so strong, that all our hand-made articles only break. Therefore all those who wants to drag in spiritual life the hand-made articles as a rule leave in other of a place. ISKCON it is the real sermon, it as shelter by everything, is not dependent on rasa and degree for - isoteric and ISKCON it Gaudiya Vaisnavism in the pure state. Undoubtedly that we should pass much and much what to come to spiritual life in the pure state, nevertheless following principles ISKCON, we can make it and.

Therefore if the person is adjusted more less seriously, then for her the gate of spiritual life opens. Actually for this purpose what we would develop spiritually, what that interaction is necessary, we should do efforts, differently spiritual understanding whence will undertake? If I simply swim on a surface, how I shall get inside? If I do not apply efforts, how the feelings will be cleared? Understandably that the mechanical efforts in some sense are useless. Therefore is sastra and there is enough management. Though as a matter of fact guru takes our useless efforts and transforms them.

Certainly spiritual life has set of aspects, I did not try at all them to describe here. I only have tried to describe one aspect or only small sight with certain the points of view, not from the absolute point of view from the rather approximate point of view.

Essence in that in general all management also represents true. All siksa represents true, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE, what one certain siksa has presented all. Though is not present, there is an exception - book Srila Prabhupada. Yes, it is universal siksa representing absolutely all. Hari bol. As for a general pacification, the books Srila Prabhupada conduct to the highest purpose. I do not know who wants that to go there, but all is.

Certainly as far as it is more attractive to have what that direct of the relation in spiritual life. Though Srila Prabhupada writes both the meeting is favorable also separation as. Nevertheless essence is those, that if we in parampara, early or late all this becomes urgent for us. But it is necessary to have sraddha and as it is necessary to have knowledge, in the other case how we shall bear second of length per 12 years? We certainly think that it only poetic metaphor. Well was simply sad slightly Lord Caitanya. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Will pass. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif)

Will not pass, very much much will not pass, because Srila Prabhupada is very strong, because He teaches us to spiritual life. This general sraddha became strong enough at last that, ours sraddha became strong so, that this message the Lord Caitanya has found the completed form. The form that was present and up to Srila Prabhupada, but now she is submitted already as the final fact.

Krisna will enter our heart, if we even how many that not against. If we shall not speculate constantly, the God will enter our heart. What is necessary qualification, it is a little - simply to remain in movement. What for to leave? It is difficult to me to tell the truth to understand why the people leave. Became rich? Became poor? - and that it actually changes. The principles prevent quietly to live sinful by life? So it you see is good. Or who that wants to tell what better "quietly" to live sinful by life? There can be who that wants to tell what more honourly it to live sinful by life in a big way? Probably it is necessary to find to me organization where a sin in honour, so and what it will change? To find organization where to me will be speak about rescue under all circumstances?

So the principles are given as and that the person could progress. This bhajana also arises from set of components, one of which it follow- not follow to principles. Therefore SP by it so confidently them also established. It is principles of morals, it is principles of pure life, but it as principles of pure fidelity. Therefore Prabhupada always also split this site, as He knew essence of these principles.

And where sambhoga it is impossible, there begins bhajana. At all so it is important why is not present sambhoga-sakti by it, is not present means and is not present, it is possible to begin bhajana. Bhajana, in what that the moment long-awaited sambhoga will begin, the soul that is eternal. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Certainly ISKCON phenomenal organization, I invite all in ISKCON. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif Hunt to whom that to live by all by this gunas. In the material world the soul is not happy in all phases what here to speak this what sense to leave is visible everywhere, therefore. Soul it brahman, and all sraddha. Sraddha also there is a light brahman directed on the God. The soul sraddha not by it of the reason, soul as brahman is happy. Only at our desire we are happy in one conditions or in others, actually any conditions do not give any happiness. Simply we want that that to think out, and we think out, but for happiness nothing it is necessary.

SB speaks - " all goes by the turn, do not pay especially attention, be concentrated on the God ". Very simply. The god is Supreme brahman, therefore if we in gunas, what sense follow ostensibly spiritual emotions? Pure emotions submitted in the books Srila Prabhupada. But follow vipralambha - there are no problems, because it sthayi bhava, is eternal emotion. Because the separation as on the fact is present. We are not at this level, but all the same it present. From this level do not fall any more (those who is), because at this level all only strengthens spiritual emotion. The obstacles strengthen, the imperfections strengthen, all strengthens, and the body in the meantime collapses, this perfect device, it is a way to leave the material world. The aspiration to sambhoga as strengthens, Srila Prabhupada strengthens, having blocked a way for all not authoritative hand-made articles. As one schoolboy Srila Prabhupada about spiritual life has asked and Srila Prabhupada has answered - " your spiritual life faces to you. "

Therefore if before us stands Srila Prabhupada, also spiritual life as is present, all rest, it is very doubtfully all. Not Srila Prabhupada whose that the servant, it all of them the servant Srila Prabhupada, the top of spiritual life is not achieved by gamble and various sort dhyana, the top of spiritual life is essence of soul and Srila Prabhupada already initiated all in spiritual life. Simply many can not understand that is that, therefore they think about what that hand-made articles that it is top. These hand-made articles can be suit in the beginning, but it is better to follow the pure sermon.

Undoubtedly that all acaryas and Gosvamis as are submitted Srila Prabhupada. As a matter of fact Srila Prabhupada gives a unique management, there is no category of the people, which would remain without a management. And as Srila Prabhupada preaches real things, He does not preach what that of an invention. Undoubtedly that Srila Prabhupada gives the sanction on various methods of spiritual life, nevertheless He represents spiritual life by the most complete image. It is not simple sraddha, it is not simple knowledge, it is not simple dhyana in sadhana bhakti, it not cheap "raganuga", it is the real spiritual life.

As to the spiritual teachers. Without the spiritual teacher it is not possible anything. It is not necessary to think - " Prabhupada works ", it guru works actually. The simply spiritual teacher brings the message not deforming, therefore He can be not swept up. Only it is a lot of much later, when we shall understand how many that, we become really grateful to our spiritual teacher. Actually there is only one person which really and helps us and really is ours shelter is a God or spiritual teacher, all other this empty place. They can not help with any case if themselves, how what that ours familiar or the relatives can help us? (I not against familiar and relatives)

What sense in that that we are given to whom that in the material world, it is 100 % a guarantee that after us there use, we shall be thrown simply out. It is not necessary to have the experience, it is quite possible to see experience others. Now who that is young, but through a pair of tens of years, he will be strewed already, it is the fact. Only in KC all this favours, more anywhere. Therefore to me who is very difficult to understand those leaves. Do not leave, it will be simple a downtime. The God is the Supreme spouse, He will win us and will take away us from here. Not we shall buy Him! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif) HE! Will win us! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif) But He it will make if we not against. If we even in soul not against. Even if we speak - slightly " no, no ", it not a handicap. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif) If to speak about sambhoga.

Hare Krisna.