Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Standing sadhu draws crowd in Ayodhya By Vinay Krishna Rastogi in Lucknow A sadhu is presenting himself as a bewildering picture of will power in Ayodhya near the disputed Sri Ram Janmabhhomi-babri Masjid site. Strange it may sound, the saint is standing for the past 30 days. About a month ago, the sadhu, Pagal Das, took a vow that he shall stand on his feet and that he shall neither sit nor lie down, neither prostrate nor rest on his back till such time the proposed Ram temple is constructed. When he vowed to do this, people in Ayodhya were quick to dub him as a madman, as his name suggests. But now after keeping his vow for 30 days the same people, who ridiculed him earlier, watch him with awe. The sadhu, who belongs to Kangra in Himachal Pradesh, claims to have travelled all the way from his home to Ayodhya by foot. In Ayodhya, he took a vow that he shall stand till the Sri Ram temple is constructed at Garbh Griha ( sanctum sanctorum). He moves to a distance and attends to the call of nature while standing. He passes urine also in standing position. Even when the mercury reaches three degrees at night, he remains steadfast to his vow. People fear that he might die one day if he fails to break his vow due to intense cold. Although he has covered himself with a blanket, his resolve remains undiminished. President of the Sri Ram Janmabhhomi Nyas (Trust), 90-year-old Mahant Ram Chandra Das Paramhans says no one can remain standing for long. Paramhans fears the sadhu might die because he sees no prospect of the Government acceding to the sadhu's demand over the temple. Undeterred by the concerns of the people around him, Pagal Das, however, remains focused on the job at hand. He calls his 'tapasya' a peaceful agitation. Interestingly, he sleeps also while holding the branch of a Pakar tree at night near the Ram Gulela temple on way to Sri Ram Janmabhhomi. Sure enough, the sadhu is attracting huge crowds. Pilgrims have already named him as 'Khareshwari baba'(or the standing sadhu). The encomium, however, does not move the sadhu. "I am not mad, but only a devotee of Lord Almighty," is all he would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhav Posted January 22, 2003 Report Share Posted January 22, 2003 i think he wants people to wake up. suppose many hindus just stand in large numebrs around the gov. decision makers. anf block their ways and residences. just stand. if some go after a day or half, more could come to stand. also chant while standing. or carry temple construction material and walk there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I've seen pictures in the past of these standing sadhus, and most often they have a swing tied to a tree, from which they lean on for support? I can't believe this guy has been standing without support for 30 days. If so that would be pretty amazing if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 I can't even sit in a comfortable chair that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 Do you reckon david blane would be impressed? why is it that the western world doesn't recognise the enormity of assortment of miracles in the East? Thank God i'm aware of such things, otherwise i would merely be impressed by a bloke standing on a 50 foot tower for a mere 3 days! only a tenth of this Sadhu's austerity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna Posted January 23, 2003 Report Share Posted January 23, 2003 You can't compare David Blane's feats with this sadhus'. Blane faced impending death if he lost balance for a fraction of a second, did not get a chance to sleep, and did not have a blanket to shield him from the cold. While this sadhu has the opportunity to walk around, sleep, and use the bathroom. I'm suprised this sadhu does not have any circulation problems of blood clots forming in his legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauracandra Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 Not sure about the trick you guys are talking about, but I saw a program on how he does the ice trick. It takes some stamina, but not much. Basically he has a double, and with the fogging up of the ice chamber is able to sneak down below and take a good nights sleep. So likely this other exhibition he probably has wires or something not seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2003 Report Share Posted January 24, 2003 3 days... 30 days... you're right, there IS no comparison! /images/graemlins/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 If he is a pure devotee as he appears to be the Lord will assist him in every way and he will be oblivious to any so called pain of this material body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhav Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 but all the hindus need to do something to help fulfil his wish, and thus help god (do His work). passivity does not help. it is shame to look at this sadhu and not do anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theist Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 should be done Madhav? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 Building of a Ram temple in Ayodhya will simply lead to more violence and killing. Better all Indians build Ram temple's in their hearts and live pure lives. There is enough hatred and violence in India already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhav Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 all can pray rama that rama temple sould be built where it was once. then one has to figure himself what else he/she can do. each one's abilities and resources are different. so each has to decide himself. to build unity for the purpose is worth doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhav Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 >>Building of a Ram temple in Ayodhya will simply lead to more violence and killing. Better all Indians build Ram temple's in their hearts and live pure lives. There is enough hatred and violence in India already.<< -jn das then so be it. a sura should never give an aggressor the benefit of aggression. aggressor babur destroyed ram temple, that is one wrong. he built mosque on top of it is 2nd wrong. the current muslims of india whose ancestors were hindus resisting to rebuild ram temple is 3rd wrong. and you saying do not build ram temple while chanting hare rama is 4th wrong. ayodha or india is not a arab race's counry or a muslim country. islam has invaded there and invaded brutally. If HK's cannot re-convert the muslims of India back to vaishnavism soon, and if the muslims resist ram temple re construction, then they may loose lives. so, please preach to them if their blood is so dear to you. hindu kshatriyas will do their dharma. every hindus will invoke kshatriya spirit within them. HK are hindus too. if they think rationally, they will understand it. else they already are kafirs for the muslims who will never spare them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 HK are hindus too. if they think rationally, they will understand it. else they already are kafirs for the muslims who will never spare them. You still don't get the point about communication. Your other thread is already over and closed. It is against the rules here to spam your agenda in nonrelated threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 aggressor babur destroyed ram temple, that is one wrong. Yet the Hindu fanatics will kill innocent muslims throughout India. Babur has already been punished by God. Your killing of innocent Muslims in India will only bring you sin, it will not please Rama. he built mosque on top of it is 2nd wrong. There are tens of thousands of Rama temples throughout India crumbling due ot neglect. The Hindu nationalists care little for such temples, as their true aim is hatred of other religions, not in building Rama temples. ayodha or india is not a arab race's counry or a muslim country. Neither is it a Hindu country. It is a country with millions of people belonging to dozens of religions. Each person has the right to worship the Lord as they perceive Him. No one has the right to destroy the place of worship held sacred by others, neither Babur, nor Hindu fanatics. The entire city of Ayodhya is the holy dhama of Bhagavan Ramachandra. The fanatics care little for the sacred dhama, nor for the temples there. If HK's cannot re-convert the muslims of India back to vaishnavism soon, and if the muslims resist ram temple re construction, then they may loose lives. It is much more important to reconvert Hindu's back to humanity, morality and spirituality. India is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Hindu's take every oportunity to cheat their fellow brothers for the smallest profit. On top of this there is hatred based on race, religion, caste and even state! These are all signs of Kali-yuga's progression, much like political Swami's justifying violence against other faiths in the name of Rama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 This reminds me of an incident 10 or maybe 12 years back, I can't remember exactly. I was visiting the local ISKCON temple for their Sunday feast. During the lecture someone asked what should stand at the spot in question a Ram Temple or a Mosque.The controversy was hot in the news at that time for some reason that also escapes me. The speaker without hesitation said that both can be there side by side. Such a simple perfect answer. The fanatics, it seems, will never let that happen unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 And they were existing side by side for years, till Hindu fanatics decided to break the mosque. They are just as bad as Babur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhav Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 >>The speaker without hesitation said that both can be there side by side.<< - theist HK temples do not allow any god other than krishna or chaitanya. so then what ground any HK has to tell sanatana dharmis to allow a mosque at Ram's temple or next to it when HK's do not even allow any vedic deva and devi in HK temples? why, because it is not wised to do. islam and xianity say idolatory is devils work and needs to be destroyed. that is the first reason they destroyed hindu temples in india. they even destoroyed 2000 years old bamian buddha statue. when gandhi proposed coexistance to avoid partition of india in 1947, the muslims rejected it. not only that, they threatened for a civil war. so who is the barbaric bully? even after partition the hidnsu gave chance to muslims to co exist peacefuly till now. what is the result? attack on hindu temples, etc. so who does not want to co-exist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 islam and xianity say idolatory is devils work and needs to be destroyed. that is the first reason they destroyed hindu temples in india. they even destoroyed 2000 years old bamian buddha statue. A good example of typical religious intolerance. Blame an entire race, religion, caste, etc., for something a few people did/do. Simple ignorance and hatred. Nothing spiritual about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 JNDas, What about Madhav's previous statement: "HK temples do not allow any god other than krishna or chaitanya. so then what ground any HK has to tell sanatana dharmis to allow a mosque at Ram's temple or next to it when HK's do not even allow any vedic deva and devi in HK temples? why, because it is not wised to do." How do you (a Hare Krishna) respond to the above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 25, 2003 Report Share Posted January 25, 2003 The Mosque and Temple can be built side by side, just as any other temple, church or mosque can be built next to a Hare Krishna temple. You should not force Muslims to build Ram temple's in their mosques, nor should Muslims force Hindus to build Mosques inside their temples. The land at the Rama Janmasthan is vast and can occupy many temples, mosques and churches without problem. Previously the mosque and temple existed side by side peacefully. It is only in recent times that politicians in the garb of swami's have manipulated the public's hatred through the Rama Janmasthan issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 JNDas, Are you a Guru or have any followers? You seem to be very wise and knowledgable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted January 26, 2003 Report Share Posted January 26, 2003 I am just a follower of Srila Prabhupada. If anything I say has value, it has come from the teachings of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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