The Aryans Came Down Like Wolves on the Flock

[Guest guest]

The way people talk, you'd think that there're only two 'races' in India: the 'Aryans' (which isn't even a race) from the north and the 'Non-Aryans' from the south.

There are actually only four races of man: Negroids, Austriods, Caucasiods, and Mongoliods. All four are represented in India in one way or another, making it one of the most diverse places on the planet. There's also religous and cultural diversity as well.

 

[xxvvii]

Also remember the root of ignite is Agni, not the other way around.

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Very good.

 

even though in the Vedas the word Arya was used as an adjective not a noun.

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In this world remains another scri. - Avesta. Let's see these words: snow, beech, corn, oak, birch, willow, wolf, bear, turtle, salmon, & the last word, "mare": black "mare", caspian "mare".

[Guest guest]

"Making The World Truly Aryan"

Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.15.25-26

Los Angeles, December 4, 1973

 

 

 

"Translation: O King, as in the ocean the bigger and stronger aquatics swallow up the smaller and weaker ones, so also the Supreme Personality of Godhead, to lighten the burden of the earth, has engaged the stronger Yadu to kill the weaker, and the bigger Yadu to kill the smaller."

 

Prabhupada: This is the theory of struggle for existence and survival of the fittest. The law of nature is like that, that the stronger overpowers the weaker. The stronger overpowers the weaker. In another place it is stated,

 

ahastani sahastanam

apadani catus-padam

phalguni tatra mahatam

jivo jivasya jivanam

 

A living entity, they live by eating another living entity. What is that? Ahastani sahastanam. Sahastanam means those who are endowed with hands. That means man, man form, human form, they have got hands. So those who have no hands..., just like the animals, they have got legs, they have no hands. So ahastani, those who have no hands, they are food for the animal with hands: bite that animal. Those animal with hands... They are animal, those who are eating another animal; they are not human being. Although they have got the form of human being, they are not considered human being. Human being means when he's civilized, cultured, then he's human being. If he's not civilized, if he's not cultured, simply having two hands -- he's animal.

 

So that culture begins, civilized, in the Aryan families. Therefore they are called Aryans, "advanced." Aryan means advanced. People want to group themselves in the Aryan family. Just like Hitler, he declared himself only, "The Germans are only Aryans, and Jews are not Aryans," like that. You can manufacture. But real Aryan means one who is advanced in spiritual consciousness. He is Aryan. Not a class of men. Aryan means he's advanced in spiritual consciousness. The Aryan civilization is so eulogized because they..., in the Aryan civilization there was Vedic culture. That is Aryan. Otherwise ahastani sahastanam, and that is apadani catus-padam. This is going on, struggle for existence. In the primitive age that human being, so-called human being, naked, in the jungle, they eating animals. The animals have no leg... The Darwin's theory is that there was no civilized man, but gradually it has developed. It is not very clearly explained; he does not know what is the evolution. Evolution means to become civilized. That is evolution. Or to advance in Krsna consciousness. That is evolution.

 

So this is the law of nature, that the weaker section is devoured by the stronger section. So here it is said, jalaukasam jale yadvat. In the water, there are so many aquatic animals, the struggle is going on. The stronger fish eating the weaker fish. This is going on. That is the law of nature. Therefore meat-eaters, so long they are like animals, they can go on with this nature's law. You are man, you are stronger; therefore weaker animal -- cows and goats -- you slaughter them. They are stronger bodily, but they have no intelligence. So man has got intelligence. So if you misuse your intelligence in that way, you can do that. That is nature's law. But human being means culture, advance, in spiritual consciousness. That is human. So this consciousness is developing gradually.

 

So unless you come to this platform, as Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [bg. 4.13], then you must divide the society. Amongst the animals, there is no division. Everyone is on the same status. No. Because the aim is how to develop Krsna consciousness. Therefore there must be some system. So that system, unless one comes to the platform of this varnasrama-dharma, four divisions, social divisions, and four spiritual divisions, and those divisions are made by Krsna Himself, maya srstam, He says. That is natural. But by such institution we can gradually understand what is the aim of life.

 

varnasramacaravata

purusena parah puman

visnur aradhyate pantha

nanyat tat-tosa-karanam

 

Our... What is the aim of life? The aim of life is that we are now detached from God. This is our position. Material life means detached from God, detached from Krsna. So this detachment is the cause of suffering.

 

mukha-bahuru-padebhyah

purusasyasramaih saha

catvaro jajnire varna

gunair vipradayah prthak

 

We are different parts and parcels of Krsna, God, so we must act accordingly. Just like my hand. Hand is there. If the hand is in proper place, he can act nicely. But if I cut the leg and make hand or hand make the leg, then it is all lost. All lost. One must act according to his qualification. That, according to that qualification, the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, they are described in the Bhagavad-gita. This brahmana means, these are the symptoms, satyam samo damas titiksa arjavam, jnanam vijnanam astikyam brahma-karma svabhava-jam. This is human civilization. We must train people in such a way that we must see there what is his quality. According to quality. Just like a physician gives medicine according to the symptom of the disease, then it is cured. Not that any medicine. In the drug house, there are so many medicines. You cannot say "Any medicine will do." No. It is the physician who will pick up the real medicine and he'll administer to the patient. Then he'll be cured.

 

So this varnasrama-dharma means catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [bg. 4.13], from the animal position of the human being, to bring him to the human position. That is varnasrama-dharma. Just (as in) school (or) college, to become graduate means to become distinguished from the fools and rascals. Similarly, human being does not mean the struggle for existence as the one big fish is eating another small fish, another is... No, no, that is not human. That is natural, but you have to rectify the natural position for the..., for realization of the utmost aim of life. That is human life. Not to treat like animals. Sa eva go-kharah [sB 10.84.13]. So that spiritual consciousness begins when one understands that he is soul; he is not this body, he is spirit soul, aham brahmasmi. Brahman means the spirit soul. And there human civilization begins. Otherwise, anarya, anarya-justam. Krsna, when Arjuna was declining to fight, He chastised him that "This denial is anarya-justam. It is befitting for the anarya, those who are not advanced. One must do his duty. You are a ksatriya, your duty is to fight to give protection to the citizen, so why you are denying this?"

 

So here the example is given, jalaukasam jale yadvan mahantah adanti. Adanti means swallows up. Similarly, when the Yadus became very powerful... Because they are descendants of Krsna, who can be...? So they were fighting anywhere, conquering anywhere, and everywhere they were victorious. So that was bhu-bharan. Bhu-bharan means burden of the world. When one becomes extravagant and misuses his power, that is burden of the world. You cannot misuse your... You get power by the grace of God, by grace of Krsna. If you misuse it, then you become a burden, a burden. As soon as there is burden, then it is dharmasya glanih. Krsna says, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati [bg. 4.7]. As soon as there is a misuse of power, tadatmanam srjamy aham, He comes. So Yadu-vamsa, Krsna's dynasty, when Krsna saw that they are becoming so powerful, that unnecessarily they are fighting, therefore to kill them, that fighting spirit was engaged for fighting amongst themselves, one another. Therefore they were all... Fighting, there is necessity; but if you misuse that fighting spirit...

 

Just like at the present moment the politicians, as soon as they see that they cannot manage things, in the country there is confusion, they declare some war so that the whole attention may be turned that side, and there will be no agitation of the internal dissatisfaction. This is diplomacy. This is diplomacy. We have seen it in Pakistan. As soon as they cannot rule over, they cannot, but they (indistinct), "Oh, the Hindus are our enemy. Kashmir, he has taken." Attention is diverted and they declare war, and again become defeated. So this kind of war is not required. This kind of war is not required. But war is there already, struggle for existence. Just like here, when Krsna saw that the Yadu dynasty is becoming... On the strength of Krsna, they have become so powerful that they (are) unnecessarily fighting, so Krsna wanted that His family, may be..., it may not be degraded farther, so He wanted to kill them. And who can kill them? No outsider can kill them, they are Krsna's descendants, that is not possible. Therefore yadun yadubhir anyonyam bhu-bharan sanjahara ha, they fighting amongst themselves, they reduced the burden of the world.

 

So it is... Krsna is exhibiting how things are going on. As soon as there will be burdensome, there will be some war, pestilence, famine -- and finished. And finished. You don't require to reduce population by contraceptive method. By nature's way, the wholesale it will be reduced, bhu-bharan sanjahara. By nature's way. Why should you commit sinful activities? You don't beget children unnecessarily and don't kill them. That is religion. That is civilization. Why should you unnecessarily produce children like cats and dog? Their sastra says that don't become father, don't become mother if you cannot save your sons from death. This is the responsibility. This is father's, mother's, responsibility. Na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum, pita na sa syaj janani na sa syat. One should not become, try to become father, one should not try to become mother if the parents cannot save the child from imminent death. That is the responsibility. And who is that father? Who is that mother? This is Vedic civilization. My Guru Maharaja used to say that "I am a sannyasi. I am not married, neither I am meant for marrying. But if I can produce Krsna conscious children, I can marry hundred times." That is the responsibility. Don't produce cats and dogs; produce Krsna devotees. Then you'll marry. Otherwise don't marry. This is Vedic injunction. Marriage is not meant for sense gratification. Marriage is meant for producing nice children, Krsna devotees.

 

So that is our aim. Our aim is not to produce cats and dogs. There are so many cats and dogs, the world is not happy. Now there is need of producing nice children, sober, gentle, devotee of Krsna, good brain, good character. These things are required. So they were not unwanted children, these Yadus. This is a make-show (indistinct) other. They came, they are all demigods, they descended just to fulfill Krsna's mission. Krsna's mission, Krsna came down so all the confidential servants of Krsna, they also appeared to help Him in different... So when Krsna wanted to go, He wanted to go with the descendants also, who came to help Him. So this is a make-show that the Yadus fought amongst themselves. The real purpose is, Krsna wanted to take them away. Otherwise, superficially, when one becomes unnecessarily powerful, disturbs the world situation, he's a burden. He's a burden. That kind of burden is vanquished by Krsna's desire, will. There must be some catastrophe like war, pestilence, famine, and everything will be finished.

 

So our duty is, the human form of life, duty is that we should know that we are eternal servant of Krsna and, forgetting our relationship, we have come to this material world, and there is struggle for existence, beginning aquatics, jalaja nava... There are nine hundred thousand species of aquatics. Who is that physiologist who can know nine hundred thousand species of aquatics? But in the sastra you will find, exactly. It doesn't say nine hundred one, Or eight hundred ninety-nine. No. Nine hundred. Nine hundred thousand species, there are. So because we are in the material contact, and according to our desire, we are having different types of body -- aquatics, trees, birds, like that. This is our botheration. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi, in this way you are... This is our problem. Therefore human civilization means when people are interested to solve the problems. That is human civilization. Otherwise animal. Struggle for existence. They... There is no human side, that is on the animal side, struggle for existence. Human life is not for struggle. To become sober, not like animals. The animals are engaged whole day and night for searching out food and sense gratification, sex. That is not human civilization.

 

Human civilization is meant for tapasya, tapasya. You should know what is my responsibility. Tapasa brahmacaryena samena ca damena ca [sB 6.1.13]. One should learn how to practice tapasya. Tapasya. This is tapasya, little tapasya. No illicit sex, no gambling, no meat-eating, and no intoxication, this is tapasya, little tapasya. Who is dying without meat-eating? We have got so many students. There are so many Vaisnavas, they do not eat meat. Are they dying? This is only bad habit. But if you practice little... In the beginning it may be little troublesome. It is not troublesome. I am thinking... Just like one gentleman came, "We cannot give up meat-eating. I want, but I cannot." Practice. Abhyasa-yoga-yuktena cetasa [bg. 8.8]. Anything you practice, habit is the second nature. So in association of the devotee, if you try to practice this tapasya... Tapasa brahmacaryena [sB 6.1.13], not to have sex life without any purpose, that is called brahmacari. Brahmacari does not mean celibacy. Brahmacari means who does not use sex life for any other purpose than begetting nice children. He is brahmacari.

 

So this is... Everything should be systematic otherwise there will be chaos. There will be chaos. Nobody will be happy and... That is described in the Bhagavad-gita, naraka eva kalpate: the whole world will be hell. That has become now. The whole world has now become hell. So the Krsna consciousness movement is very important movement. It is overhauling the whole human, social, political, religious... So those who are engaged in Krsna consciousness movement, they should be very, very responsible, sober, try to understand the situation and take the shelter of Krsna, and everything will come very successful.

 

Thank you very much. (end

[Guest guest]

Yes there is one theory of human races that states there are only four races of man. But its clearly a false one as it states Europeans are the same race as Arabs or Indians ie Caucasoid. I think its quite bklatantly obvious theyre different races and hence the four race theory is bollox.

[Guest guest]

no that is incorrect, there are 4 races, and then their

are varieties in that race.

 

the difference between the races are much more then the differences between sub races.

 

A caucasion that is blond and blue eyed and an

indian who is not part mongoloid, australiod

or negroid is only different then the blond

in skin tone,eye color, and hair color and type.

 

whereas the difference between a blond and and the other races are much different, different bone structure,

nose structure, eye structure, and so on.

 

in india we find a mix, all the races are there, and have

been for a long time.

[Guest guest]

No one can create a false controversy in India. The Aryan race was native to India. The first use of the word Aryan is from Rigveda. In addition most of us in India in every corner are pure Aryans. You can only use the Indian criterion for the word Aryan as this is an Indian name.

[Guest guest]

WHO CARES FOR THE WESTERN PROPAGANDA MEDIA IN INDIA. OUR RACE IS ARYAN AND WE CAME FROM INDIA.

[Guest guest]

In regards to Indra as destroyer of cities (Purandara) - could this not refer to older cities in S.India that were reported to be destroyed by floods?

 

Infact, the "Aryans", as in Bhagavatam, are said to decend from Manu who was a S.Indian Raja named Satyavrata, who obviously escaped from a flood.

 

Many thousands of years ago, it seems Aryans and Dravidians spoke Vedic Sanskrit, and the pure ones (Aryans) migrated North around the flood time. Some stayed behind.

 

It hardly requires any "Invasion" by Aryans!

 

No historical tale in India supports an Aryan Invasion. Shankara, Ramanuja, Madhava, Nimbarka etc. - India's great Vedantists, were also Dravidians who decended from Vedic Seers and traditions.

 

Agastya and Asuramaya (Ushanas), Patron Gurus in S.India, are also Seers in the oldest portions of the Rig Veda itself. Agastya in Mandala I, also has many hymns addressing Indra and the Maruts, who resemble later Shiva and the Nathas or Siddhas.

 

Agastya's main disciple and brother, Vasishta, in Rig Veda, is also the Seer of the Mahamrityunjaya mantra of Shiva!

[Kulapavana]

The past is gone and some questions may never be resolved, even if they seem to be relevant to our current situation.

However, what is most relevant today is the need to reestablish a true Aryan society based not on "noble race" but on NOBLE CULTURE... that was the second part of Srila Prabhupada's mission. It is impossible to imagine the predicted (however limited) comeback of the Golden Age without recreation of such noble culture and society...

[Guest guest]

The past is alive today in the treatment of the Dalit/Untouchables struggle in India and of the black people in the world today. Like the U.S.A. of discrimination,lynchings,and subjected to poverty conditions. I'm prowd of my black/african heritage and all those that are connected to it.

''The past is not dead. In fact, it's not even past." Falkner

 

Read:

African Presence in Early Asia by Runioko Rashidi and Ivan Van Sertima

 

Darrell Davis

[Guest guest]

The legecy of the aryans gave birth to Adolf Hitler. They, the white europeans claim to be Aryans and in American Aryans beleave in Eugenics. White people selectivly breeding with other whites to produce a better white, i.e. a better Aryan. At the extermiation of blacks and all others

Darrell

[Kulapavana]

in the Aryan society you would be judged by your qualities, not the color of your skin.

 

the mistreatment of blacks in US is NOT part of Aryan legacy. US society is based on the Biblical, not Vedic heritage. As to the treatment of "untouchables" in India - this is after all the Age of Kali, when higher social groups pray on the lower. Is that an Aryan legacy? No. it is just the influence of kala, the black snake of Time.

 

Hitler and nazism was a reaction to the evils of their time: high unemployment, inflation, poverty, class struggle and exploitation of people by the rich. past Aryan culture had nothing to do with it. Actually, they were hoping to elevate fellow Germans through their distorted take on Aryan culture.

[Guest guest]

I think that putting the mistreatment of anyone as just the signs of the times really don't want to do thier part in making this world a better place. That was the same argument that white people in America used for blacks to justify racism ----> Slavery, Jim Crow, and blacks having to sit in the back of the bus or having to give up their seat to a white person.

"Oh, it's the way God made things to be."

"Blacks are under the curse of Ham. It's biblical for blacks to be were they are.Black people are pre-adamites they have no souls."

Using religion for racism and discrimination is wrong!!!

go to these web sites

 

www.dalitstan.org/books/sudroid

 

www.dalitstan.org/books/bibai

 

www.dalitstan.org/holocaust

 

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry for forgeting to put my name on the last post.

My name is Darrell Davis. I live in Miami and I'm black and proud to be such. I'm active in fighting racism and of teaching my people of their real history. Not the bulls&#t

that white america teaches as black history. I'm well aware of how many people think and view of blacks and of black americans.....and most of it is negitive. I will be fighting racism for as long as I'm black. Even your own word 'Varna' the name of the caste system means color.

Discrimination should not be followed just because it's the times it should be fought.

 

Black Sparks, White Fire by Richard Poe

Stolen Legacy by George G. M. James

www.worldracism.com

[Guest guest]

click onto this:

 

www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/1335/Hist/fall_ind.html#black

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna,

 

 

click onto this:

 

www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/1335/Hist/fall_ind.html#black<br />

 

Dear Darell or whoever,

 

You are ignorant of the lies spread by white people. Aryan Invasion Theory is a LIE spread in order to denigrate one of the greatest civilization on Earth, namely HINDU society. The reason was weaken conquered India by creating division among non-whites.

 

If you do not understand that you are learn such things as Aryan Invasion Theory formulated by whites, while you hate whites, and still agree with their lies, then it shows you are a fool.

 

No wonder black Americans are dominated and manipulated so easily by white americans. You people just explode with hatred and anger which blinds you completely.

[Guest guest]

 

click onto this:

 

www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/1335/Hist/fall_ind.html#black

 

 

Why don't you click on this and for a change learn a more correct version. See below different views on this.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan_invasion_theory

 

[Guest guest]

Haribol, darrell. I am a white 50+ person, but I have been fighting rascism all my life as well. I actually followed the activities of Malcolm X while he was still alive, and February 21, 1965, two days before my fifteenth birthday, he was gunned down.

 

One of the greatest pieces of literature I have read is Congo, My Congo, by Patrice Lumumba. Mr Lumumba was a great thinker of these hard times, and, of course, he was gunned down as well, as was King, Hampton, and anyone who offered a bit of solution to all this horror based on false identification of the body as the self.

 

I have never gone for the rascism that seeped into this movement, but I will not deny it. I saw it first hand, the idiots who justify the swastika because it has Vedic roots, but they dont care about the vedas, they like the swastika because of hitler and his demagougery.

 

However, rascism is not part of this philosophy in any sense. If one maintains rascist ideas, such a person can be considered a non-vaisnava, plain and simple. Such a person should not even be spoken to about spiritual science, because Srila Prabhupada, my guru maharaja, has clearly stated that before one can begin the rudiments of Bhagavad Gita, one has to know that the physical body is not the self. So rascists, mysogenists, nationalists, none of these fools have accfess to the science of Krsna Consciousness, plain and simple.

 

Hare Krsna, good luck in your difficult work, ys, mahaksadasa

[Guest guest]

Scientifically, once the place called bharatavarsa was the entire land mass of the world. Evidence abounds in the veda and the histories. The entire world was one continent, all surrounding the continent now called africa. India came from afrika, broke off, and slammed into asia, creating the himalayan range. Afrika is the only place that is still breaking off, not condensing like other continents. The great rift zone is the mother of all life forms.

 

None of the science of plate techtonics contradicts the veda, nor does it take away from King Prthus great work at making valleys, mountains, seas, etc.

 

The races come from adaptation to environment. As folks settled after the many catyclysms, their skin tone reflected their environment.

 

And there is also the fact of six degrees of separation, meaning that there is only six slots that separate every man and woman ever born in this planet. This means that the black west afrikan, the scion of Mali, the oldest continuous kingdom on the planet, is uniquely related to the nordik folks.

 

haribol ys, mahaksadasa

[shambu]

"The races come from adaptation to environment. As folks settled after the many catyclysms, their skin tone reflected their environment."

 

This is pure Darwinism. "Race" means more than just the tone of the skin. And it has never been witnessed that a black dynasty gradually turned white or vice versa without intermingling, just by living in a certain environment. But I won't elaborate (or speculate) on that. Actually better to forget the whole concept of race, since it's material. But the differences between races are there, undeniable—both on the gross and subtle levels.

 

Just to tease you further, I would like to confront you with the statement from Bhagavatam that there are 400.000 species of human beings. Some are civilized and others are uncivilized, according to Prabhupada. How many of these species are (or were) to be found on this planet, what exactly differentiates them to make them into distinct species, and where are all these species to be found? Are Devas also humans, for instance (I think not - manavas are different from devatas, isn't it) and how come there are so many of them? Maybe someone can give me a list of various human species. I am interested.

 

As a junior member I am entitled to ask stupid questions.

 

[Guest guest]

Like any scientist, darwin was not necessarily 100% wrong. We must give credit where it is due. I was speaking of plate techtonics, and adaptation to environment, which can be duplicated in lab, so verifiable.

 

As far as human species go, the suras and asuras are also counted among the humans, as are the nagas and the raksasas. There are also the valakhilyas, atomic sized humans who float in the air like dust motes, described in the Ramayana. But that leaves out 799,995 human species, doesnt it. I personally dont believe that the blacks, the asians, the pacific Islanders, the caucasians, are different species. Next step from that we call the mexiacns and Irish different species? No this is much more dangerous philosophically that the darwinism you accuse me of.

 

But all species are just cars for a drive, and will run out of gas, so we dont worship the cars, and we dont consider the physical, albeit human, body, the real self.

 

Hare Krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

[Kulapavana]

seeing the world in terms of racial struggle certainly is short sighted and materialistic. but just seeing the apparent differences between races does not make one a racist. it is not ALL ONE, and we are not all the same.

 

what is the best way to figt racism? perhaps by promoting spiritual awarenes among all people. just pretending that we are all one species, race, humankind, culture or whatever is fake and does not work anyway.

[Guest guest]

[ quote]

 

02/25/03 06:02 AM

 

then i can say, having been in the field of genetics for many years, that the genetic 'proof' that scientists have offered does not support an invasion theory. The Aryans could have originated in India and moved outward over a period of thousands of years - this can also account for the gene markers we see in present day Indo-Europeans and South Indians. The fact is, you cannot say for certain which way round it was just from the genetic evidence

 

03/01/03 02:40 PM

 

the problem with these guys is they have an agenda, they start with a theory then try to create facts to support it.

 

that is not the scientific method, true science is

first discerning ALL the facts (which the author admits

he does not) then making a theory.

 

what he does is not science, it's disinformation,

he says he knows that the aryans came from southern russia because of genetic markers, how does he come to this conclusion ? he does not say.

 

the fact is that lighter skinned indians have similar

DNA to europeans, the ONLY conclusion that one can

reach from this data is that these two groups are related, in order to understand whether the europeans

came to india, or the indians went to europe you need

to use anthropological methods,cultural,linguistics, etc.

 

DNA can only give connections racially, the data cannot

tell the history of migratory patterns , any scientist who says it can is mis informing the audience.

 

Many things can affect racial mix in populations, to try and give a factual history based on genetics alone

is fraught with potential error.

[Guest guest]

More recent results from a 2003 study undermine the earlier findings by demonstrating that “Indian tribal and caste populations derive largely from the same genetic heritage of Pleistocene southern and western Asians and have received limited gene flow from external regions since the Holocene.” It also found that the Haplogroup R1a gene previously associated with Indo-Europeans is also found in significant amounts in certain tribal populations, and may have even originated in India. These results obviously support the case against the Aryan theory. (http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2003_v72_p313-332.pdf)

 

Another 2004 paper uses similar data to support the conclusions of the 2001 study. (http://www.gnxp.com/IndependentOriginsOfIndianCaster.pdf)

 

As the sample sizes used in these studies are relatively small there is still much work to be done. In general it needs to be considered that the genetic evidence could be tied to later transfers of population and does not necessarily tie to linguistic change

[Guest guest]

click onto this:

 

www.bookmasters.com/clarity/b0001.htm

 

get this book or type in on google.com

 

Dalit: the black untouchables

 

and read that.