The Aborigines lived...

[anveshan]

Yonder those hills and across the river

Deep inside the thickets the aborigines lived

Naked they came, naked they lived

Undressed they behaved, artificial none.

 

They hunted for food, ate whatever came handy

Root or fruit, meat or milk, it didn’t bother them

Danced in joy, wept in sorrow

Got enraged and appeased for reasons pretty.

 

When the animals came from the wild

And took their kids for food

‘The poor folks got hungry, just like us’

The aborigines thought, and never struck back.

 

When a snake bit an innocent child

‘The kid down-trod the poor reptile

It bit back, nothing unusual’, they consoled.

 

But when the floods came and the storms struck

They folded their hands in awe and fright

Where did it came, and why did took away

Great many of them, they did never know

 

The aborigine lived in pleasure and pain

Amidst their fellow beings-the animals and birds

Sustaining each other, as the Mother Nature wished

In quite harmony, with hatred none.

 

Neither they heard of the Vedas, or the Testament New

Krishna and Christ did not reach them in form

They never heard of Allah or his prophet last

But they lived in quite harmony, with hatred none.

 

One day they saw civilized creatures in uniform

Coming down from across the hills

To them the civilized looked strange

With man-made smiles on their rosy lips.

 

To their dismay, the strangers looked alike

But behaved different and indifferent of each other

“ Asalamu Alaikum”, one said, “Ram, Ram” the other

And “Praise the Lord”, said the third.

 

The civilized taught the barbarians in groups

Of the Christ Jesus, the Vedas Divine

And of Allah and his prophet last

Of the glory of the heavens they are to reach.

 

In groups they were taught, and groups they turned

Groups of Christ and Krishna, Ram and Rahim

Harmony they lost, venomous hatred crept into them

They fought like bulls wild, to reach the Lord.

 

 

 

 

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Arthur Ford next discussed the case of "a savage who had never been exposed to Christianity or any other organized form of worship except for the jungle cult." He wrote, "This lad died after having been bitten by a cobra and was about nine years old when he crossed over. He was a totally uncivilized as anyone who has never seen any form of cleanliness or civilization, because it was perhaps thousands of years since that lad's previous incarnation and he had done little or nothing in the spirit form to improve himself. He slept for hundreds of years and was so disinterested in other souls here that when he finally decided to try on the physical body again, he was like a fish out of water. He lived only to eat and sleep, and what work he managed to do was solely to avoid beatings and cursings. He lived in ignorance, and he died in the same manner, and thus progressed no single jot in that lifetime. For that reason there was no point in continuing his physical existence, and here, although kindly souls are trying to awaken him, he continues to sleep or thinks of nothing but himself and his pleasures, which are few, except that he likes to torture animals. Thus, the snake bite was in the way of karmic indebtedness for what he had done to those beings which are less evolved than human beings.

"This type of soul is highly depressing here, even more than in the earth life, for there seems little to jog them into awareness of responsibilities and soul growth. But even that boy was no worse than many who, living in civilized areas with plenty to eat and much work to accomplish, give themselves over to riotous destruction instead. They in their next incarnations may find themselves in circumstances similar to those of this boy who perhaps many eons ago had been equally destructive and thus was unwilling to return to physical state in order to repay his karmic debts. Growth, development, love, constructive action, and consideration for others are the keys to unlock the kingdom of heaven, and those who use force and anger to destroy, instead of love to rebuild, are earning dire consequences for themselves in this spirit life and in future incarnations."

 

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Whole NDE text in "montgom.zip"

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[anveshan]

The theory that those who live aloof from 'civilized' society are barbarians, or less than animals (and the example you have given here) makes it explicit that what 'civilized', 'cultured' 'saved souls' like us think of ourselves.

 

Think of those aborigines living in the Andaman & Nicobar Islands (for millennia they have resisted the onslaught of 'civilization'). They know of no Christianity, of Mohammed and the Vedas. The forces of nature they worship out of awe, fear or need. Very natural 'religion' out of which our religions developed.

 

If they were rejected by the Gods or the Gods consider them

mean, what is the purpose or creation and re-creation(incarnation proces)? The Gods of the Bible, Koran and the Vedas who created at will, and Omniscient They are, could have easily guided or rehabilitated them or could have sent

one of the many prophets and avatars to their midst so that they became civilized and saved.

 

Is it their sin that no Moses reached them to give the commandments ten?

[Siri]

Anveshan,

That’s a nice poem. Did you write it yourself or did you plagiarise it? Either way it is very meaningful & nice.

 

Living in Australia, amongst the local Aboriginal people, I find what you posted very true and relevant.

 

I a recent television program aired in Sydney it was documented that various Muslim groups were desperately trying to convert Australian Aborigines (the traditional owners of the Land) to Islam, because Aborigines have land right in Australian, and converting the Aborigines is seen a converting the Australian land to a Islamic country.

 

The Christian are doing the same to meet their own needs.

 

In all, Australian Aborigines are losing out by not learning about their ancestral beliefs and heritage.

 

It's a shame!

 

 

 

 

[anveshan]

Siri, There is a little bit of poet in me. I do write(you may see my poem "Ganga Bleeds", in this forum.

 

I have been living with Adivasies in the Chhattisgarh and Nilgiris region( to learn about culture and linguistics) occassionally. These Adivasies once owned vast tracts of land(in fact it was their home that we hijacked) and their real kings of yesteryears have now become beggars in their own ancestral land. They have become the sudras and we the twice born brahmins! They are landless 'barbarians' in 'our' civilized society. Their culture and their civilization is barbaric and 'alien' to us.

 

Whatever they owned we have looted,they are a starving, penniless lot. But, more than the money, the 'civilized'

us is enslaving them culturally. Five thousand plus years of culture, customs and traditions which are still dear to them.. we are in the benign process of wiping it out!

 

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If they were rejected by the Gods or the Gods consider them mean, what is the purpose or creation and re-creation(incarnation proces)?

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Souls always go along the way they need as fish need water because of the respective consciousness & expierence. On the contrary, they are not distinct in nature: savages are civilized men in future & civilized men were savages in the past; savages might give up harmony if they become powerful enough & civilized men did live in harmony. Further more, Is dogs & cats the most intimate friends of people & diff. from cattles & beasts?

 

You talk about equality but you are not equal; You talk about harmony but you are not harmonic. What can I say about "rejected" & "mean"?

[Coyote]

It is a very good writing. Very profound.

I would very much like to email it to some friends-would you mind signing it with the edit feature if it is ok?