Guest guest Posted April 18, 2003 Report Share Posted April 18, 2003 avatar in the near future? SOme people say it will take a long time, while others give examples from Nostradamus' predictions. Don't think me rude, but considering the situation here, I cannot believe any of those things!But I would very much like to know what you guys think. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enlightened Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 An "avatar" is not predestined. The lord who is the supersoul of everyone, who has the power to pervade in everything does not need to come as a human being. However, he may only come through our thoughts and deeds. The avatar is not there, it is made. An ordinary man can rise up to the status of a great being which we call the "avatar of god". In other words, if a man rises above all base qualities of this human existence, then he can surely rise as an avatar of god himself. -enlightened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 According to Bhagvat Mahapuran, it is still approximately 400,000 years before Kalki will appear. BTW, Nostradamus's predictions can be and have been interpreted in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 SB 1.3.25 - Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Visnu Yasa. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers. PURPORT Here is another foretelling of the advent of Lord Kalki, the incarnation of Godhead. He is to appear at the conjunction of the two yugas, namely at the end of Kali-yuga and the beginning of Satya-yuga. The cycle of the four yugas, namely Satya, Treta, Dvapara and Kali, rotates like the calendar months. The present Kali-yuga lasts 432,000 years, out of which we have passed only 5,000 years after the Battle of Kuruksetra and the end of the regime of King Pariksit. So there are 427,000 years balance yet to be finished. Therefore at the end of this period, the incarnation of Kalki will take place, as foretold in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. The name of His father, Visnu Yasa, a learned brahmana, and the village Sambhala are also mentioned. As above mentioned, all these foretellings will prove to be factual in chronological order. That is the authority of Srimad-Bhagavatam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Cc Madhya 1.41 The Laghu-bhagavatamrta is divided into two parts. The first is called "The Nectar of Krsna" and the second "The Nectar of Devotional Service." <font color="red">The importance of Vedic evidence is stressed in the first part,</font color> and this is followed by a description of the original form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead as Sri Krsna and descriptions of His pastimes and expansions in svamsa (personal forms) and vibhinnamsa. According to different absorptions, the incarnations are called avesaa and tad-ekatma. The first incarnation is divided into three purusavataras--namely, Maha-Visnuu, Garbhodakasayi Visnu and Ksirodakasayi Visnu. Then there are the three incarnations of the modes of nature--namely, Brahma, Visnu and Mahesvara (Siva). All the paraphernalia used in the service of the Lord is transcendental, beyond the three qualities of this material world. There is also a description of twenty-five lila-avataras, namely Catuh-sana (the Kumaras), Narada, Varaha, Matsya, Yajna, Nara-narayana Rsi, Kapila, Dattatreya, Hayagriva, Hamsa, Prsnigarbha, Rsabha, Prthu, Nrsimha, Kurma, Dhanvantari, Mohini, Vamana, Parasurama, Dasarathi, Krsna-dvaipayana, Balarama, Vasudeva, Buddha and <font color="red"> Kalki </font color> . There are also fourteen incarnations of Manu: Yajna, Vibhu, Satyasena, Hari, Vaikuntha, Ajita, Vamana, Sarvabhauma, Rsabha, Visvaksena, Dharmasetu, Sudhama, Yogesvara and Brhadbhanu. There are also four incarnations for the four yugas, and their colors are described as white, red, blackish and black (sometimes yellow, as in the case of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu). There are different types of millenniums and incarnations for those millenniums. The categories called avesa, prabhava, vaibhava and para constitute different situations for the different incarnations. According to specific pastimes, the names are spiritually empowered. There are also descriptions of the difference between the powerful and the power, and the inconceivable activities of the Supreme Lord. <font color="blue"> Sri Krsna is the original Supreme Personality of Godhead, and no one is greater than Him. </font color><font color="green">He is the source of all incarnations. </font color>In the Laghu-bhagavatamrta there are descriptions of His partial incarnations, a description of the impersonal Brahman effulgence (actually the bodily effulgence of Sri Krsna), the superexcellence of Sri Krsna's pastimes as an ordinary human being with two hands and so forth. There is nothing to compare with the two-armed form of the Lord. In the spiritual world (vaikuthha-jagat) there is no distinction between the owner of the body and the body itself. In the material world the owner of the body is called the soul, and the body is called a material manifestation. In the Vaikuthha world, however, there is no such distinction. Lord Sri Krsna is unborn, and His appearance as an incarnation is perpetual. Krsna's pastimes are divided into two parts--manifest and unmanifest. For example, when Krsna takes His birth within this material world, His pastimes are considered to be manifest. However, when He disappears, one should not think that He is finished, for His pastimes are going on in an unmanifest form. Varieties of humors, however, are enjoyed by the devotees and Lord Krsna during His manifest pastimes. After all, His pastimes in Mathura, Vrndavana and Dvaraka are eternal and are going on perpetually somewhere in some part of the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Don't think me rude, but considering the situation here, I cannot believe any of those things!But I would very much like to know what you guys think. I don't believe in avatars either. It taxes one's credulity too much to believe that an all powerful God will descend as a human, take birth, grow into an adult over a period of time and then do what he came to do. The All_powerful God can fulfill a mission by just descending directly and finishing the whole business in a trice - in fact, he can finish the business by not desceding at all. It makes more sense to accept that some people are elevated to the position of avatars by their followers. It is also usually the case that when there are mutiple answers, the answer that requires the least bit of imagination is the correct answer. Yet another reason to disbelieve in avatars and their predictions. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Well some avatars come with the mission to act as an example to human beings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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