Subala Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 In one of the lectures Atmatattva prabhu mentioned that there are unumerable incarnations of the lord in each universe... So there is Moskito avatar etc... Lord incarnates in all species of life. Does anyone came across Prabhupada making this statements or any confirmation to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Is a mosquito turning into fish and then into a bigger fish to amaze a king. I don't know if the starting point is a mosquito or a small fish in this avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subala Posted July 11, 2003 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 we know we saw turtle, boar, swan, hourse, fish avatars - what about moskito or elephant....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Its the most degrading form of life by my view. Even if krishna comes as a mosquito , what can he do? Spread West Nile virus or malaria to the bad people or something... ? /images/graemlins/smile.gif Or have a Mosquito revolution by making all the mosquitos only drink blood from the "evil doers" and not from the good people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted July 12, 2003 Report Share Posted July 12, 2003 Morning Walk, LA, 76:<blockquote>RAmezvara: KRSNa incarnates into every species of life. He can appear in any form. PrabhupAda: Yes. Otherwise, why the form came? JanmAdy asya yataH [sB 1.1.1]. If we have to accept this sUtra, that everything emanates from Him, so unless KRSNa has got such similar form...?</blockquote> Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.10.43:<blockquote><center><font color=red>sa evedaM jagad-dhAtA bhagavAn dharma-rUpa-dhRk puSNAti sthApayan vizvaM tiryaG-nara-surAdibhiH </center> saH--He; eva--certainly; idam--this; jagat-dhAtA--the maintainer of the entire universe; bhagavAn--the Personality of Godhead; dharma-rUpa-dhRk--assuming the form of religious principles; puSNAti--maintains; sthApayan--after establishing; vizvam--the universes; tiryak--living entities lower than the human beings; nara--the human beings; sura-AdibhiH--by the demigodly incarnations. </font> He, the Personality of Godhead, as the maintainer of all in the universe, appears in different incarnations after establishing the creation, and thus He reclaims all kinds of conditioned souls amongst the humans, the nonhumans and the demigods. PURPORT The Supreme Personality of Godhead ViSNu incarnates Himself in different societies of living entities to reclaim them from the clutches of illusion, and such activities of the Lord are not limited only to human society. He incarnates Himself even as a fish, hog, tree and many other forms, but less intelligent persons who have no knowledge of Him deride Him even if He is in human society as a human being. The Lord therefore says in the Bhagavad-gItA (9.11): <center> avajAnanti mAM mUDhA mAnuSIM tanum Azritam paraM bhAvam ajAnanto mama bhUta-mahezvaram </center> As we have already discussed in the previous verses, it is concluded that the Lord is never a product of the material creation. His transcendental position is always unchanged. He is the eternal form of knowledge and bliss, and He executes His almighty will by His different energies. As such, He is never the subject of reactions for any of His acts. He is transcendental to all such conceptions of actions and reactions. Even if He is visible in the material world, the exhibition is only of His internal energy, for He is above the good and bad conceptions of this material world. In the material world the fish or the hog may be considered lower than the man, but when the Lord appears as a fish or hog, He is neither of them in the material conception. It is His causeless mercy that He appears in every society or species of life, but He is never to be considered one of them. Conceptions of the material world such as good and bad, lower and upper, important and insignificant, are estimations of the material energy, and the Supreme Lord is transcendental to all such conceptions. The words paraM bhAvam, or transcendental nature, can never be compared to the material conception. We should not forget that the potencies of the Almighty Lord are always the same and do not decrease because the Lord assumes the form of a lower animal. There is no difference between Lord SrI RAma, Lord SrI KRSNa and His incarnations as a fish and hog. He is all-pervading and simultaneously localized at any and every place. But the foolish person with a poor fund of knowledge, for want of that paraM bhAvam of the Lord, cannot understand how the Supreme Lord can take the form of a man or a fish. One compares everything to one's own standard of knowledge, as the frog in the well considers the sea to be like the well. The frog in the well cannot even think of the sea, and when such a frog is informed of the greatness of the sea, it takes the conception of the sea as being a little greater than the well. As such, one who is foolish about the transcendental science of the Lord will find it difficult to understand how Lord ViSNu can equally manifest Himself in every society of living entities.</blockquote> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2003 Report Share Posted July 12, 2003 <<Even if krishna comes as a mosquito , what can he do? >> Krishna has freedom to appear as mosquito. So far, we have not seen anyscripture sayoign he did. when he came as bora or as fish, he was not a usual bora or fish. his size can be big or small depending upon the misson he wants to perform. vishu's eagle obviously is not of the normal size eagle. once his mission is complete, he may not stay longer. as fish, he talked to manu while pulling manu's boat in the flood water. he did not talk to fish polulation. if he chooses, he can come as one or as a huge swarm of mosquitos and kill asuras like we have now all over the world, then disappear. no one can figure out krishna. jai sri krishna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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