Guest guest Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 what is krsna? its like rasna. is it different from krishna? Jk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somesh Kumar Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Hare Krishna Mr. Guest (Jk), Krishna is described by Brahma as: Ishvara Paramah Krishna, Sachchidaananda Vigrahah, Anaadir Aadir Govindah, Sarva Kaarana Kaaranam [brahma Samhita 5.1] "Krishna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and has the form of Truth, Knowledge and Bliss. He has no begining, but he's the begining of everything and Krishna is the cause of all causes." Arjuna also addresses Krishna as: Param Brahma Param Dhaama, Pavitram Paramam Bhavaan, Purusham Shaashvatam Divyam, Aadi Devam Ajam Vibhum. "Krishna is the Supreme Brahman, Supreme Abode, Pure, Transcendental, The original/first God, Unborn and Greatest of All" Regarding your question as is Krishna rasna? Yes, Krishna is rasna as well. As Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita: Rasoham Apsu Kaunteya, Prabhaasmi Shashi Suryayoh... Krishna says: "I am the taste in water (for that matter any liquid) and the light of the sun and the moon... And so on.. This is the impersonal way of realising the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Hope this clarifies your doubt. But, finally Krishna can only be known when Krishna will reveal himself. And that is possible only by "Sevonmukhe hi Jihvaadau" by serving Krishna with senses starting from the tongue - by chanting HARE KRISHNA, HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE. HARE RAMA, HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA, HARE HARE and tasting Krishna prasadam - The remnants of the food tasted by Krishna. Hope this helps... Hare Krishna! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Krishna is... submitted by Hariballabha d.d. 1) Krishna is possessed of an unlimited intellect. (88/22) 2) Krishna is inaccessible to sensuous knowledge. (16/46) 3) Krishna is lord of the infinity of worlds.(69/17) 4) Krishna wields the power of creating the unlimited. (87/28) 5) Krishna carries the impress of limitless power. (87/14) 6) Krishna is possessed of inconceivable potency. (10/29) 7) Krishna is unborn. (59/28, 74/21) 8) Krishna solves all heterogeneous views. (74/24) 9) Krishna is vanquished by exclusive devotion. (14/3) 10) Krishna is inner guide. (1/7) 11) Krishna is the withholder of the energy of the wicked. (60/19) 12) Krishna is the giver of salvation of jivas that are free from vanity. (86/48) 13) Krishna ordains the worldly course of conceited jivas. (86/48) 14) Krishna is primal God (Deva). (40/1) 15) Krishna is primal person (purusha). (63/38) 16) Krishna is overwhelming flood of bliss. (83/4) 17) Krishna possesses fulfilled desire. (47/46) 18) Krishna is self-delighted. (60/20) 19) Krishna is the opponent of the sinuous. (60/35) 20) Krishna is sung by the best of hymns.(86/23) 21) Krishna is the dispeller of the night of pseudo-religion. (14/40) 22) Krishna is devoid of increase and decrease. (48/26) 23) Krishna is efficient and material cause. (10/29) 24) Krishna is the only truth. (14/23) 25) Krishna is awarder of the fruit of work. (49/29) 26) Krishna is not subject to the consequences of work. (84/17) 27) Krishna is seer of cause and effect. (38/12) 28) Krishna is the person who is time (Kala). (1/7) 29) Krishna is time's own self.(70/26) 30) Krishna is even the time of time. (56/27) 31) Krishna is present in the heart of every animate entity like fire inside wood. (46/36) 32) Krishna is grateful. (48/26) 33) Krishna is the augmenter (like the full moon) of the ocean of earth, Gods, twice-born and animals. (14/40) 34) Krishna is the tormentor of cannibalistic persons. (14/40) 35) Krishna is the destroyer of the pride of the arrogant. (60/19) 36) Krishna is the root-cause of the origin, etc., of the world. (14/23) 37) Krishna is the cause of the world. (40/1) 38) Krishna is the creator of the world. (70/38) 39) Krishna appears as if possessed of a body like that of mundane entities, for the good of the world. (14/55) 40) Krishna is the guru (center of gravity) of the world. (80/44) 41) Krishna is the refuge (ashraya) of jivas (individual souls) who are afraid of birth and death. (49/12) 42) Krishna is devoid of birth. (46/38) 43) Krishna is equally the internal guide , cause and director of jivas.(87/30) 44) Krishna is the destroyer of the miseries of the persons who employ themselves on meditating upon him. (58/10) 45) Krishna is the fourth dimension and self-manifest. (66/38) 46) Krishna is worthy of being gifted. (74/24) 47) Krishna is the punisher of the wicked. (69/17) 48) Krishna is the God of Gods.(80/44) 49) Krishna is rarely cognizable by the Gods. (48/27) 50) Krishna is unconcerned about body, house, etc. (60/20) 51) Krishna is supreme ruler of the greatest Gods. (73/8) 52) Krishna is the exponent of religion. (69/40) 53) Krishna is the eternal son of Nanda (ananda/pleasure). (14/1) 54) Krishna is visible to man with great difficulty. (71/23) 55) Krishna presence mocks the world of man. (70/40) 56) Krishna is the object of palatable drink of the human eye. (71/33) 57) Krishna is the internal guide of all. (31/4) 58) Krishna is worthy of the worship of all the worlds. (69/15) 59) Krishna accommodates all the worlds. (59/30) 60) Krishna is the manifestor of all light. (69/34) 61) Krishna is unstinted in giving Himself away to one who recollects Him. (80/11) 62) Krishna is the efficient cause. (87/50) 63) Krishna although devoid of all mundane quality, assumes mundane qualities by his inconceivable power for the purpose of creation, etc. (46/40) 64) Krishna is not subject to change. (64/29) 65) Krishna is not capable of discrimination, by reason of being void of any extraneous covering. (87/29) 66) Krishna is the giver of Himself to those who covet nothing. (86/33) 67) Krishna loves those who covet nothing. (60/14) 68) Krishna does no work. (60/20) 69) Krishna is human, hidden, primal person (purusha). (44/13) 70) Krishna is present in the hearts of jivas like the five elements. (82/45) 71) Krishna is the supreme sorcerer. (70/37) 72) Krishna is supreme Godhead and the internal guide of all. (56/27) 73) Krishna is the crest-jewel of those whose praises are sung by the sacred lore. (71/30) 74) Krishna is primal person and ever-existing. (14/23) 75) Krishna is the highest among the objects of worship. (74/19) 76) Krishna is the healer of the miseries of the submissive. (73/16) 77) Krishna is the destroyer of the sins of the submissive. (31/7) 78) Krishna is the destroyer of the distress of the submissive. (73/8) 79) Krishna is the residue after cataclysm. (87/15) 80) Krishna is devoid of touch with the mundane senses. (87/28) 81) Krishna is the soul and friend of all animate entities. (29/32) 82) Krishna is devoid of distinction appertaining to an alien. (63/38, 44) 83) Krishna is inconceivable by His nature. (70/38) 84) Krishna is the master of the universe. (70/37) 85) Krishna is the nourisher of the universe. (85/5) 86) Krishna is the sun that cheers the lotus of the kindred of the Vrishnis. (14/40) 87) Krishna is the God worshipped by the brahmanas. (69/15) 88) Krishna is the foremost of the brahmanas. (84/20) 89) Krishna is the originator of Brahma. (40/1) 90) Krishna is the worshipped of Brahma. (31/13) 91) Krishna loves his devotees. (48/26) 92) Krishna wears forms in accordance with the wishes of His devotee. (59/25) 93) Krishna is eternally present in Mathura. (1/28) 94) Krishna is devoid of the sense of kinship and regards all in the same way. (46/37) 95) Krishna is beyond all measuring potency (Maya). (63/26) 96) Krishna is subdued by the love of Yudhisthira. (72/10) 97) Krishna is concealed by the screen of maya from the sight of the people. (84/23) 98) Krishna does not follow the ways of the world. (60/36) 99) Krishna is the destroyer of the fear of the mundane sojourn of the submissive. (85/19) 100) Krishna is the womb of the scriptures. (16/44, 80/45, 84/20) 101) Krishna is shree guru's own self. (80/33) 102) Krishna is devoid of hankering for wife, offspring, etc. (60/20) 103) Krishna is the ordainer of the worldly sojourn and of the summum bonum. (1/7) 104) Krishna is the cause of all entities. (85/4) 105) Krishna is the friend of good. (69/17) 106) Krishna is devoid of discrimination as of kinship. (63/38, 44) 107) Krishna is in existence. (56/27) 108) Krishna possesses true desire. (80/44) 109) Krishna is the true entity. (87/17) 110) Krishna is true of speech. (48/26) 111) Krishna is true of resolve. (37/12) 112) Krishna sees with an equal eye. (16,33) 113) Krishna is the cause of all causes. (14/56-57, 63/38, 87/16) 114) Krishna is the originator of all. (59/28) 115) Krishna is the soul's own self of all jivas (individual souls). (14/55) 116) Krishna is omniscient. (16/48) 117) Krishna is all-seeing. (38/18) 118) Krishna is the embodiment of all Gods. (74/19, 86/54) 119) Krishna is the seer of all. (16/48) 120) Krishna is the lord of all. (37/23) 121) Krishna is the stay (Ashraya) of all entities. (82/46) 122) Krishna is all-pervasive and eternal. (9/13) 123) Krishna is the soul of all elements. (86/31) 124) Krishna is the knower of the mind's of all elements. (81/1) 125) Krishna is the soul's self of all elements. (74/24) 126) Krishna is the inner soul of all elements. (37/11) 127) Krishna is the internal guide of all elements. (47/29) 128) Krishna is the cause of the origin of all elements. (64/29) 129) Krishna is the limit of all Good. (84/21) 130) Krishna is omnipotent. (37/12) 131) Krishna is the lord of Lakshmi, the presiding deity of all riches. (47/46) 132) Krishna is the internal guide of all. (63/38, 72/6) 133) Krishna is the stay (Ashraya) of all. (40/15) 134) Krishna is witness and seer of self. (86/31) 135) Krishna is the refuge of the good. (80/9) 136) Krishna is most difficult to serve. (88/11) 137) Krishna is the friend of one's heart. (48/26) 138) Krishna is the withholder of creation. (82/45) 139) Krishna is withholder, creator and preserver. (63/44) 140) Krishna is the master of the functions of creation, etc. (16/49, 37/12) 141) Krishna is devoid of distinction as of kinship. (74/21) 142) Krishna is devoid of distinction as between kin and alien. (72/6) 143) Krishna indwells the universe created by himself. (48/19) 144) Krishna is the destroyer of the worldly sojourn of His devotees. (60/43) 145) Krishna is the wearer of body according to His wish. (1/7) By Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, from his Foreword to Sree Krishna Chaitanya, Vol. 1, by his disciple Professor N.K. Sanyal. The references are to chapters and verses of Srimad Bhagavatam Canto 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 23, 2003 Report Share Posted August 23, 2003 Is love, is bliss, is happiness, is hope, is kind, is father, mother, brother, sister, husband, wife, life, death.... You can go on like this forever, starting from the prokaryotic bacteria to Vaikunta planets and Goloka if you are considering living matter. /images/graemlins/smile.gif But if you are not just considering living matter you can start from the atomic structures... leptons, baryons... /images/graemlins/grin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 the krishna word does not give correct pronounciation of original sanskrit word for krishna. krsna word is close but still may not provide correct pronounciation. one has to hear correct pronounciation of the word from a vedic person from india. the sanskrit (devanagari script) has 12 vowels and 36 consonents. with that one can write almost any name sound. because of this reason, no one asks other how to spell a name in india. whatever you speak, one can write it in devanagari script, and any reader would pronounce the same. is not that amazing? sanskrit is known as teh language of devas. and the modern computer programmers love it becauser you can prograam it very easily. it is so mathematical or methodical and beautiful. if you learn sanskrit, please also learn how to pronounce words correctly. jai sri krishna! - madhav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yasodanandana Posted August 25, 2003 Report Share Posted August 25, 2003 "one has to hear correct pronounciation of the word from a vedic person from india" ok http://www.radiokrishna.com/rkc_archive_new/music-english/Srila%20Prabhupada%20Songs/RKC%20Live%20Stream%20-%20Bhaktivedanta%20Swami%20Prabhupada%20-%20Chanting%20Japa%20Part%2001.mp3 http://www.radiokrishna.com/rkc_archive_new/new%20music/Bhaktivedanta%20Swami%20Prabhupada/RKC%20Live%20Stream%20-%20Bhaktivedanta%20Swami%20Prabhupada%20-%20Purport%20of%20Mahamantra.mp3 our shelter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 If krishna is the Unique(God) who is Vishnu, who is shiva , who is brahma? is it 1+1+1=1??? or 3??? There could be one creator! is krishna the avtar of vishnu???? If he is the avtar, then why dont we have vishnu conscience? intead of Krishna cons.? Please explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Krishna is everything. Everything that is there now, exists in krishna. It is a hard concept to explain, because krishna is localized then again exists in everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 1+1+1=1 and also 3 and somtimes 1+1+1+1+n =1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 How logical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 1+1+1+1+1+..............infinity infinity=krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted August 26, 2003 Report Share Posted August 26, 2003 Yes, why not Vishnu consciousness? Go ahead. No problem. Everyone has a particular mood that they may feel most attracted to. We should not think God is so small that He can't accomodate a full variety of individual tastes in loving Him. There is oneness in variety and variety in oneness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 from someone from India!! one has to hear correct pronounciation of the word from a vedic person from india. This is condescending and prejudice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 And why only America! or Britain! Why should I be brought up here and made to listen to Bhagavatham and the rest of the scriptures! Why should they have been taught in India in the past?! Why shouldn't I go to Angor Wat and try to look for a spiritually enlightened person there?! How come?! God is prejudiced ... take care. /images/graemlins/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govindaram Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Hare Krishna YashodaNandana is completly right, Srila Prabhupada came from India, to spread KC all over the world, he didn't come from, Poland... Only after living at Vrindavana can you really preach! Srila Prabhupada Ki Jai!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 but to say that only someone from India can pronounce Krsna's name correctly is ludicrous! That would mean that all the Western devotees that are being trained up in the temples here are pronouncing Krsna's name incorrectly. Give me a break!!! This is just one of Madhav's many underhanded jabs at anyone who is not Indian "hindu". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Make people misunderstand each other and draw people more closer to him who is understood by all, or is that an illusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govindaram Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Hare Krishna Please see this site <font color="red"> ALL </font color> , it tells you how to pronounce the Maha-Mantra more affectively, esp. Krsna it sort of like... Krish arra (but same as Krsna) .. it takes a bit of practice, but if you carefully hear Srila Prabhupada chanting Japa, you will find he does exactly the same pronunciation, Japa The best way to listen is to right-click/save - the files to hard-disk, otherwise the files seem to slow-down some what.. Check them out please! /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Why should we worry if Krishna is not pronounced the right way? Krishna is everything, he is Krishna, krsna, Rama, Ragurama, Jesus , Allah... he is in everything , then why do we bother about the correct pronounciation and that too in sanskrit? Sorry, I am naive/stupid, but can't we just call "Krishna help me in serving you" or something like that, or the literal translation of the Hare krishna mantra... Is it ok if we chant his name that way and just think about him rather than trying to achieve perfection in some dead language? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Why should we worry if Krishna is not pronounced the right way? Actually, it is a good question. If there are no hard and fast rules to chanting then what does it matter if one has a perfect - as Madhav would say "Vedic pronounciation" or a western one? And what would it matter if you learn the maha-mantra from someone with white skin, brown skin, black skin or purple skin? If it does matter to someone then they have a severe case of skin disease and in dire need of the medicine of cure - the maha-mantra!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govindaram Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Hare Krishna Why should we worry if Krishna is not pronounced the right way? Well, the least you can do is try to, make an effort, I mean it dosen't matter at first how you chant, but later on you can try to at least pronounce better (don't be so lazy!) Krishna is everything, he is Krishna, krsna, Rama, Ragurama, Jesus , Allah... he is in everything , then why do we bother about the correct pronounciation and that too in sanskrit? Correct pronounciation can make your mind more focused on the Holy name, (don't be so lazy!) Sorry, I am naive/stupid, but can't we just call "Krishna help me in serving you" or something like that, or the literal translation of the Hare krishna mantra... Lord Caitanya gave us the Maha-Mantra and said here chant this and be happy (go back to Lord Krsna), free love of Godhead...(besides I like this Mantra..OK!) Is it ok if we chant his name that way and just think about him rather than trying to achieve perfection in some dead language? The Maha-Mantra contains.. Oh Sri Radha please engage me in the service of Krsna/Rama So chant with feeling I_L_K...dandvats to u for asking such cool questions...Haribol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_love_krishna_ Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Is it me or is the white/light blue radiance radiating from your post with the sound of a transcendental flute... Those answers were good enough for me, I will start trying to chant properly(will stop being lazy) and do it in sanskrit even though it does not really make sense... Thanks it has some sort of a mystic nature to it anyway /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingentity Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 we should do the best we can with pronounciation but if someone has an accent or a speech defect that makes the words come out not quite right - well, this does not make the chanting any less effective. Pure laziness is another thing altogether. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govindaram Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 Hare Krishna Is it me or is the white/light blue radiance radiating from your post with the sound of a transcendental flute... That's beautiful, the words/teachings of Guru/Gauranga are great indeed.. <font color="red"> All Glories to Srila Prabhupada/Gauranga/Assembled Devotees! </font color> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 the english written word Krishna should be pronounced as Krushna as per sanskrit pronounciation. the "sh" should not be stressed too much, but lightly. Krsna is not exact or nearer as per sanskrit. I am from India and I know sanskrit, which should be by the way pronounced as "sunskrith" and not sanskrit like in sam or script in english. The britishers because they could not pronounce it properly, they made it as sanskrit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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