Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 can anybody tell me some hindu gods' names??or anyhting about an ancient family tree? thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viji_53 Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 Narayana is the supreme God of the Hindus. He took many avatars & represent many gods like Rama, Krishna, Narasimha etc. Shiva, Brahma are also forms of Narayana only. Hindus can worship any God of their choice. It is the freedom given by Hindu religion alone in this world. Ganesh represents to destroy obstacles in our life. Saraswati represents to give Knowledge. Laksmi represents to give wealth. But ultimate God is Narayana. He is the main deity. HariBhol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 krsna is not an avatara, he's the supreme personality of godhead read bhagavad gita before giving wrong informations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govindaram Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 You know a lot of hindus say Krishna is an Avatara of Lord Vishnu, when they say this they mean non-different, even when I was say 5 years or so I knew Krishna is Lord Vishnu they are non-different, you always see Lord Vishnu turn into baby Krishna in movies and pictures, so this means they are non-different. So when people say Krishna is an avatar of Lord Vishnu/Narayana this is what they mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 “Sri KRSNa Caitanya MahAprabhu, the original guru of the entire world, has explained that there are three fundamental principles in vaiSNava-dharma: sambandha-tattva, knowledge of one’s relationship with BhagavAn (the Lord); abhidheya-tattva , the means by which the ultimate goal is achieved; and prayojana-tattva , the ultimate goal of kRSNa-prema (sweetest love of God). A Suddha (pure)-vaiSNava or Suddha-bhakta is one who knows these three principles and acts in accordance with them. “The first principle, sambandha-tattva, includes three separate topics: The first topic is the material world (jaDa-jagat), or the fundamental truth regarding the potency that creates bewilderment (mAyika-tattva); the second topic is the living beings (jivas), or the fundamental truth regarding the predominated entities (adhinatattva); and the third topic is BhagavAn , or the fundamental truth regarding the predominating entity (prabhu-tattva). “Bhagavan is one without a second and endowed with all potencies. He is all-attractive, the exclusive abode of opulence and sweetness , and is the sole shelter for all jivas . Athough He is the only shelter of maya and all the jivas, still He is aloof and independent and exisits in His own supreme, independent form which is uncommonly beautiful . The effulgence of His limbs radiates to a great distance, manifesting as the nirvishesha-brahma (the white loving light realized by impersonalists). Through His divine potency known as aisha-shakti He manifests the jivas and the material world, and then enters into that world as ParamAtmA, who is His partial expansion. This is the fundamental truth concerning Ishvara, the supreme controller, or ParamAtmA, the indwelling Supersoul. (Source Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Chapter 4 - Vaishnava Dharma is nitya (eternal) dharma (true nature of the soul)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 22, 2003 Report Share Posted September 22, 2003 “In the VaikuNTha region of the spiritual sky, beyond this material universe, He manifests as NArAyaNa, His feature of supreme opulence and majesty . In Goloka VRndAvana, which is beyond VaikuNTha, He manifests as Gopijana-vallabha (the most dear of the gopis- cowheard girs), Sri KRSNacandra, His feature of supreme sweetness . His various types of expansions, such as identical manifestations (prakASa) and pastime forms (vilasa), are eternal and unlimited. Nothing and no one is equal to Him, what to speak of being superior to Him.” Source Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Chapter 4 - Vaishnava Dharma is nitya (eternal) dharma (true nature of the soul) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haridham Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 THere are no hindu gods. Krsna is God in vedic Culture. Narayan and visnu are expansions of lord krsna. Krsna explains in the bhagavat gita that he is the supreme personality of godhead. Everything comes from him. The rest are demigods. Read the Bhagavat gita before we give any misinformation Hare krsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raguraman Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Hare Krishna, Lord Narayana = All Avatars(Lord Krishna, Lord Narasimha, Lord Vamana etc.). Avatars are IDENTICAL with Lord Narayana. Lord Shiva, Lord Bramha etc. are JIVA tattvas like us. They are superior to humans but can never be compared to Lord Narayana and HIS avatars. This is what Vedas declare. Search for quotes provided in this section. Vayu Sukta, Devi Sukta, Visvakarma Sukta of Rig veda shows this clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 His identical manifestations and pastime forms, prakASa and vilAsa, are manifested by His superior potency known as parA-Sakti . This parA-Sakti displays its prowess (vikrama) in many different features, out of which only three are known to the jives (spiritual soul). The first is the internal potency, cid-vikrama , which arranges Sri Hari’s transcendental pastimes and everything related to them. The second is the marginal potency, jiva or taTastha-vikrama, which manifests and sustains innumerable jivas (spiritual souls). The third is the potency that creates bewilderment , mAyA-vikrama, which creates material time, material activities, and all the insubstantial objects of this world. Source Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Chapter 4 - Vaishnava Dharma is nitya (eternal) dharma (true nature of the soul) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 “Sambandha-tattva comprises Ishvara’s (Supreme Controler) relationship with the jivas (spiritual souls), the relationship of the jivas and of matter with Ishvara , and the relationship of Ishvara and of the jivas with matter . One who understands this sambandha-tattva completely is situated in sambandha-jnana, and one who does not have sambandha-jnana cannot become a pure Vaishnava (devotee of the Supreme Personality) by any means.” Source Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Chapter 4 - Vaishnava Dharma is nitya (eternal) dharma (true nature of the soul) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 one who does not have sambandha-jnana cannot become a pure Vaishnava (devotee of the Supreme Personality)by any means. "I have heard from some Vaishnavas that one is a real Vaishnava only if he experiences the path of devotion through bhAva (emotions), so there is no need for knowledge. How much truth is there in this statement? Up until now I have simply tried to evoke emotions through the singing of hari-nAma saNkirtana; I have not made any attempt to understand sambandha-jnana.” (This is the question of Lahiri Mahasaya in the same book) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 23, 2003 Report Share Posted September 23, 2003 Babaji said, “The highest fruit of attainment for the Vaishnavas is the development of bhava, the first sprout of prema (pure love of God) and the basis for all transcendental emotions. However, that state of bhäva must be pure. Even a single drop of shuddha (pure) bhAva can fulfill the highest aspiration of the jiva, but (for example) the display of emotions by those who are polluted with the jNana (knowledge) that is aimed at attaining nirvishesha (without qualities)-brahma (pure light) is a great calamity for the jivas. The devotional sentiments of people who feel that they are one with brahma are merely a cheating display. Therefore, sambandha-jnana is absolutely essential for pure devotees.” (Quelle: Jaiva Dharma by Srila B Vinoda Thakura) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 LAhiri MahASaya then raised a doubt: “BhagavAn has a form. Since form is limited by spatial considerations, how can BhagavAn be the resting place of the limitless and all-pervading brahma?” BAbAji MahArAja resolved his doubt, saying, “In the material world, the entity known as the sky is also limitless; why should brahma be considered to be more important, merely because it is limitless? BhagavAn is also limitless, by virtue of the potency manifested from the effulgence of His limbs. At the same time, He possesses His own transcendental form. Can any other entity compare with this? It is because of this unparalleled nature that BhagavAn is superior to the principle of brahma. “ <font color="red"> His transcendental form is supremely attractive, and that selfsame form is fully and completely all-pervasive, omniscient, omnipotent, unlimitedly merciful and supremely blissful.</font color> Which is superior— a form such as this , which is endowed with all qualities, or an obscure, all-pervading existence, which is devoid of qualities and potencies? In reality, brahma is only a partial, impersonal manifestation of BhagavAn. The impersonal and personal features both exist simultaneously and in perfect harmony in BhagavAn. (Quelle: Jaiva Dharma by Srila B Vinoda Thakura) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 “Brahma is only one aspect of BhagavAn. Those whose spiritual intelligence is limited are attracted to the feature of the Supreme that is devoid of qualities, and is formless, immutable, unknowable, and immeasurable. But those who are all-seeing (sarva-darSi) have no attraction for anything other than the complete Absolute Truth. Vaisnavas have no significant faith in Sri Hari’s formless, impersonal feature, for it is opposed to their eternal function and unalloyed prema (divine love). BhagavAn Sri Krishnacandra is the basis of both the personal and impersonal features. He is an ocean of supreme transcendental bliss and He attracts all pure jives (spiritual souls).” Sri Krishna’s form is sac-cid-Ananda— ever-existing, full of knowledge, and completely blissful. His birth, activities, and leaving the body have no connection with mundane matter. The eternal truth defies description, for it is beyond words. The pure soul in his spiritual aspect sees the transcendental form and pastimes of Sri kRSNa, but when he describes that supreme reality in words, it appears just like worldly mundane history. Those who are eligible to extract the essence from SAstras such as the MahAbhArata experience KRSNa’s pastimes as they are. However, when people of mundane intelligence hear these descriptions, they interpret them in different ways. (Quelle: Jaiva Dharma by Srila B Vinoda Thakura) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Srila SanatAna GosvamipAda has written the meaning of the word vRndAvana as follows: ”vRndasya samUhasya avanaM rakzaNaM pAlanaM yasMat tat vRndAvana”. One who nourishes and protects everyone is called vRndAvana. Hiding the mood of opulence (Sri bhagavat-bhAva) vRndAvana manifests all by prema (divine love) only. Being controlled by this prema, the suprem power Svayam BhagavA Himself never lives vRndAvana, even for a moment. Sri Rupa GosvAmi describes this in his Laghu-bhAfavatAmRta Antya 1.67: vRndAvanaM parityajya sa kvacinnaiva gacchati Sri vRndAvnan is the crown jewel of BhUloka, the Earth planet. Why do the Gopis say it is higher than Svarga or Vaikuntha? Because in Svarga and other realms BhagavAn resides in His Narayana expansions, as Upendra in Svarga and as Vishnu in Vaikuntha. In this way the same Bhagavan resides in different places in one form or another. Krishna, the original Vishnu has one form, but still He is present everywhere in unlimited expansions according to the particular lila (pastime). Among all this forms, however, only Sri Krishna is avatAri, the original complete manifestation, and all other are avatAras or amsha, partial portions. We can see it in Srimad Bhagavatam and in the prayers of Lord Brahma (Brahma saMhita 39) rAmAdi murtiSu kalA-niyamena tizThan nAnAvatAram akarod bhuvanezu kintu krishnaH svayaM samabhavat paramaH pumAn yo govindam Adi puruzaM tam ahaM bhajAmi I worship that Adi purusha, original person Sri Govinda who continuously descends to different planets and who, according to His prescribed schedule, manifests His powers in many different forms, establishing Himself as Sri Rama and many avataras. However at the end of the DvApara-yuga in the twenty eighth millennium of the seventh Manu in each day of BrahmA, Svayam BhagavAn Sri Krishna Himself, in His complete form, appears on this earth with the full paraphernalia of His eternal realm VrndAvana. Krishna is Govindacandra, the full moon. Just as the moon has different phases, changing size as it waxes and wanes, each of Krishna’s avataras manifests different degrees of His potencies. (Source: Venu-gita – a commentary to the tenth canto ch. Twenty one from Srimad Bhagavatam by Srila Narayana Maharaja) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 LAhiri : When one meditates on the form of Sri Krishna, the conception that arises in the heart is limited by time and space. How can one transcend such limitations and meditate on Krishna’s actual form? BAbAji : Meditation is an action of the mind, and as long as the mind is not fully spiritualized, one’s meditation cannot be spiritual (cinmaya). Bhakti purifies the mind so that it gradually becomes spiritual, and when one meditates with the mind that has become purified in that way, such meditation certainly becomes cinmaya. When bhajanAnandi VaSNavas chant KRSNa’s name , the material world cannot touch them, because they are cinmaya. Internally, they are situated in the spiritual world as they meditate on KRSNa’s daily pastimes and relish the bliss of confidential service. LAhiri : Please be merciful and grant me such spiritual realization (cid-anubhAva). BAbAji : When you abandon all material doubts and mundane logic, and constantly apply yourself to Sri-nAma, spiritual realization will quickly arise within you of its own accord. The more you resort to mundane logic, the more you will subjugate your mind to material bondage. The more you strive to initiate the flow of nAma-rasa, the more your material shackles will become loosened. The spiritual dimension will then manifest in your heart. LAhiri : Please be merciful and explain what that spiritual experience is. BAbAji : The mind is brought to a standstill when it tries to understand that truth through words. The truth can be realized only through culture of spiritual bliss (cid-Ananda). Give up all argumentation and simply chant Sri-nAma for several days. Then the power of nAma will automatically dispel all of your doubts and you will not have to inquire further from anyone in this regard. LAhiri MahASaya : I have understood that one obtains supreme spiritual benefit by drinking the liquid rasa of Sri-kRSNa-nAma with great faith, so I will chant Sri-nAma when I have understood sambandha-jnana very clearly. BAbAji : <font color="blue"> That is the best way </font color>. You must have a sound understanding of sambandha-jnana. Source Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Chapter 4 - Vaishnava Dharma is nitya (eternal) dharma (true nature of the soul) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Ishvara (the Supreme Controller) is the embodiment of knowledge (jnana-svarupa), the knower (jNAtA-svarUpa), one who considers or reflects (mantAsvarUpa) and the enjoyer (bhoktA-svarUpa). He is self-effulgent (svaprakASa) and He also illuminates others (para-prakASa). He has His own desires (icchA-maya), and He is the knower of all (kSetra-jNa). The jIva (the soul), too, is the form of knowledge, the knower, and the enjoyer; he too, is self-effulgent, and he illuminates others; and he too, has desires, and is the knower of his own field (kñetra-jïa). From this perspective, there is no difference between them. However, ISvara is omnipotent, and by dint of this omnipotence, He is the basis of all these qualities, which are present in Him in full. These qualities are also present in the atomic jiva, but only to a minute degree. Thus, the nature and form of ISvara and the jIva are eternally different from each other because one is complete and the other is minute; and at the same time, there is a lack of distinction between ISvara and the jiva because of the similarity between their qualities. Source Jaiva Dharma by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Chapter 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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