Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I don't think that Dev Anandji was trying to poke fun at Krishna at all. He simply tries to tell the story of dissaffected indian youths getting mixed up with the messed up free sex and drugs world of the European HIPPIES. If you watch the film carefully Dev Anandji follows the Dum Maro Dum song with his Ram Ka Naam Badnaam Na Karo and he sing this to the EUROPEAN HIPPIES that are tripping on LSD ACID, and other drugs. This film was set in the 60s and there where a lot of EUROPEAN HIPPIES coming into Nepal and India to find themselves. Along with them came their HARD DRUGS. Cannabis has always been used by Indians, but these NEW EAROPEAN DRUGS messed up some Indina youths along with these HIPPIES. Dev Anandji should be celebrated for making such a film that highlighted these things not known by the average Indian person living in a village. Hare Krishna HAre Rama is not a Mantra owned by anybody,especially not the ISKON. Anybody can chant it if they so wish. Krishna is available to anybody just the same as any other Avatar of Vihnu or any other god. You dont have to be a Hare Krishna follower of ISKON in order to chant the MahaMantra. I even know of prostitutes who take Heroin chant the mantra everyday, it is universal and availabe for anybody to chant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 ok looking from your point of view i must agree with you.i grew up in india in the sixties and the movie with dev anand opened my eyes to these wrong practises of hippy.i will never ever be tempted to take lsd or drugs although bhang is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I dont think you should be upset at the film. It only shows that all types of people belive in Maha Prabhu Kalia Thakur Krishna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I dont think you should be upset at the film. It only shows that all types of people belive in Maha Prabhu Kalia Thakur Krishna. Srila Prabhupada used to tell us that ANY publicity was good publicity. When it comes to the Maha-mantra, any exposure is benefial for everyone involved. Let's leave karmic judgements up to higher powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 "i will never ever be tempted to take lsd or drugs although bhang is ok." You don't get much of a bhang for your buck, but an otherwise wise decision nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 good choice with bhang but don't indulge too much only holy occasions like shivratri or holi. no lsd very bad for the mind control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 hindustaan mai gunja aur bhang dawaai hai.hum lok sharab ko bhura maan ta hai aur bhang ganja ko sachi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avinash Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 hindustaan mai gunja aur bhang dawaai hai.hum lok sharab ko bhura maan ta hai aur bhang ganja ko sachi. May be that some people consider bhang and ganja as medicine. (I am not sure). But it is wrong to talk as if it is a common belief in India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Sri Lanka: Cannabis cultivation: Relaxing the strong arm of the law Sunday Observer, Sri Lanka Sunday 23 May 2004 The recent media reports of the Ministry of Indigenous Medicine moving to legalise limited cultivation of cannabis for the usage of Ayurvedic practitioners were of considerable interest to those in the practice. And to the public - who had been aware that cannabis is categorised as a "dangerous drug" in Sri Lanka and that its cultivation, production, possession, sale and trafficking amounted to a criminal offence. How much do we know about Cannabis? Or, Kansa, as it is locally known. Or, ganja, the narcotic made from this plant. Or, Cannabis sativa l., the name by which the researchers recognise it. Cannabis had been known to have narcotic and also medicinal and pain-relieving properties in ancient Hindu literature and in the local Ayurvedic practice. Names such as "virapati" (hero-leaved), "capta" (light-hearted), "ananda" (joy), "trilok kamaya" (desired in three worlds) and "harshini" (the rejoicers) indicate its mild halucinogen properties and aphrodisiac qualities for stimulating sexual energy. But less known has been its therapuetic claims for overcoming asthma, phlegmatic conditions, neuralgia, muscular and joint pains, flatulence, dyspepsia and sub-terminal illnesses. "There is no Bill as yet. The Minister of Indigenous Medicine has only made certain suggestions," said W.E. Karunasena, Secretary to the newly established Ministry of Indigenous Medicine, in an attempt to squash wild surmises. "Our first step is to formulate a National Policy document for the indigenous medicine sector which will become part of the National Health Policy. We are estimated to have 16,000 Ayurvedic practitioners in the country and it is important that herbal medicines acquire some standardisation." The current method by which the locally registered Ayurvedic practitioners obtained cannabis was by applying to the Ayurvedic Drugs Corporation, with the submissiion of their medicinal recipes. The Corporation, in turn, obtained cannabis at no cost, when the Police brought in stocks seized from raided illicit cultivations to courts, and the Magistrate ordered such seized plants to be handed over to the Corporation. "The Corporation sells cannabis to the Ayurvedic practitioners in powdered form, but they say that it needs to be stirred in burning oil to extract the real medicinal value," said Karunasena, explaining that this uniform method of receiving cannabis might not conform to the "secret recipes" brought down by traditional Ayurveda practitioners through generations. Going by the opinions of the Ayurvedic practitioners and officials of the Ayurvedic Drug Corporation as well as the National Dangerous Drugs Control Board, the effective way of dealing with cannabis seems to hang in the balance between defining its value in Ayurvedic medicinal preparation and its abuse as a "dangerous narcotic" in unauthorised productions. Such products like Madana Modaka gulis (globlets), sold in "petti kades' (vendor huts) near schools, are known to be purchased by school boys for "kicks." On the other hand, Madana Modaka is a legitimate medicinal preparation in Ayurvedic practice and is sold by the Ayurvedic Corporation and other reputable Ayurvedic practitioners, while its preparation method is clearly stated in the Ayurvedic Pharmacopoeia of Sri Lanka - its ingredients being cannabis leaves and seeds fried in ghee, among other local herbs such as thipal, kottan, corriander, asamodagam and namal renu. Madana Modaka is usually recommended as a sexual stimulant and for flatulence and loss of appetite, among other things. Among over 20 medicinal preparations mentioned in the Ayurvedic Pharmacopoeia that contain cannabis, are Buddharaja kalka, Jathipalaadi choornaya, Hinguladhi rasaya (watee), Kameswara modakaya and Ranahansa rasayanaya (pindi). "Cannabis is an essential ingredient in Ayurvedic treatment and we use it as a stimulant for patients recovering from paralysis and nerve-related illnesses, and as a sexual energiser for impotency," explains Vidya Nidhi Dr. K. Sayakkara, Secretary, All Ceylon Ayurvedic Practitioners' Congress. "And such cannabis needs to be fresh." The practitioners are required to come in person to the Corporation, bringing their entire stocks of medicinal powders, to have them mixed with required "mathras" (measures) of the cannabis choorna (powder), made from dried cannabis by the Corporation personnel. "If this choorna is not fresh, the medicinal value is reduced. Cannabis used in our medicines must measure upto certain standards." Cannabis choorna is sold to the practitioners at Rs.2,300 a kilo, said Dr. Ramya Tennakoon, Chief Pharmacist, Ayurvedic Corporation. In 2004, the production of the Corporation Madana Modaka alone will require 300 kilos of cannabis with a supply of over 1,500 kilos being needed for purchase by practitioners outside the Corporation. For ageing practitioners, mobility was difficult and a decentralised method of distributing cannabis was preferable. K. Ratnayake, Executive Director, National Dangerous Drugs Control Board, under which purview cannabis falls as a "dangerous drug," says the Board's concerns have been about the abuses of cannabis, consumed by smoking and other ways. "There is a considerable number of people in Sri Lanka, producing products containing cannabis," says Ratnayake. "Years ago, Ayurvedic preparations were in use mainly among the rural peasants and low-income people in urban areas. Now their use is gradually being adopted by upper urban classes and becoming a trend among specially the young people." Citing Madana Modaka as an example of a medicinal product that is being misused, he said, "Since there are campaigns against abuses of drugs such as heroin, the young seem to be under the impression that using an Ayurvedic product like Madana Modaka could be less harmful to health." He explains that the purpose of the proposed legislation is to allow only the Commissioner of Ayurveda of the Ayurvedic Department to grow cannabis in one central location, after estimating how many kilos would be needed by the country's Ayurvedic practitioners per year and how many acres could produce that amount, with due protection being accorded to the area. A parallel can be drawn with opium, which is imported by the Ministry of Health and issued to medical practitioners. He feels that another solution could be to find an alternative to cannabis. The Bill to legalise the controlled cultivation of cannabis is now at draft legislation stage, the Sunday Observer learns. Tobacco, however, which is proven to be harmful to health, continues to be cultivated, manufactured and sold legally in Sri Lanka. Medical practitioners contacted by the Sunday Observer declined to comment on the comparative health risks associated with the two plants. One evaded the issue arguing that they were regarded in different contexts. Cannabis is not categorised as a drug in the UK. Dr. A. R. L. Wijesekera, Former Government Analyst, Chairman Sri Lanka Standards Institution, and Consultant to the National Dangerous Drugs Control Board, says that although cannabis is a Schedule 1 drug with no medicinal use, in UK under the Misuse of Drugs Regulations 2001, relating to dangerous drugs, the cultivation of cannabis is permitted under licence issued by the Secretary of State for purposes such as research. "In fact, premises may also be granted licences for smoking of cannabis for purposes of research." California decriminalised medical marijuana (as it is referred to in the US) in 1996 according to an Inter Press Service report of December 5, 2003. Eight other U.S. states have followed suit. Thirty five states were reported to have passed laws recognising marijuana's medicinal values, while Jamaica's Ganja Commission recognised possible negative effects of use and abuse of ganja. "It is the flowering tops of the cannabis plant which contain the highest amount of the active ingredient Tetra Hydro Cannabinol (THC) and is made into the brown coloured narcotic, hashish, explained Dr. Wijesekera. "Local Ayurvedic preparations only use the leaves and seeds which have very little THC. The controlling mechnism would be controlling the quantity of THC." According to the Poisons, Opium and Dangerous Drugs Act No.13 of 1984, penalties for possessing cannabis depend on the quantity possessed, he said. "Legislation for Ayurvedic practitioners concerns the preparation quantities stated in the Ayurveda Pharmacopoeia and they are hardly detectable." A_Shiva_Dass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 MARIJUANA IS MEDICINE, by S. Heumann. Hereby released to Public Domain. How sick do you have to be to find compassion in society? Marijuana is medicine for anorexics getting way too thin. If I have asthma, must I choke while you forbid my therapeutic toke? Glaucoma can make you blind while drug-war hypocrites suppress the Kind. How sick do you have to be to get compassion from society? Cancer patients' chronic pain can be dissociated in the brain; They can keep medications down if they can smoke the safest drug around And even tolerate radiation with a little tolerance from this great nation. Governor Wilson, with your veto pen, you know where to stick it and we'll tell you when. If sending messages is your concern, here's one that you've been much too slow to learn: Marijuana is medicine, the jails are fat and the schools are thin. Forcing patients to break your laws serves no political or moral cause. Marijuana's Medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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