Dinosaurs in Vedas?

[Myra]

 

Hare Krishna Everyone,

 

I am currently doing a project for my 3rd grade neighbor. Her assignment is about Dinosaurs. According to what I have researched:

 

"The oldest dinosaur types are known from rocks in Argentina and Brazil and are about 230 million years old. The most primitive of these types, Eoraptor, was a small meat-eating dinosaur. Because Eoraptor's skeleton shows some advanced skeletal features, older dinosaurs may yet be found."

 

According to Peeyush Agnihotri, "Central India was the largest dinosaur nesting site in the world"

 

Ashok Sahni, an eminent palaeontologist from Panjab University, Chandigarh, who has been associated with dinosaur studies in India, has an interesting anecdote to narrate. "In October 1982, when I was attending a seminar in Ahmedabad, a young Geological Survey of India (GSI) officer came to inquire about a spherical 18 cm object from me. Such objects were apparently unearthed during the blasting operations of the then existing ACC cement factory at Balasinor and the "cannon balls", as they were commonly known, decorated the shelves of the mine manager’s office. We recognised the "cannon ball" to be dinosaurian egg and within a year’s time, GSI unearthed several hundreds of them from the area," he recalls.

 

Sahni observes: "India has the largest number of eggs and nests from a single time interval (68 to 65 million years ago) representing the Lamenta Formation sediments which are believed to have been deposited at the time of Deccan volcanic activity. Other countries, such as China, Mongolia and the USA have several horizons from which dinosaur eggs have been isolated, but not from a single formation, as in India. What actually counts in the preservation of eggs is really not how many eggs were laid but how many of these were preserved as fossils. The process of fossilisation is selective and as we all know eggs tend to rot easily. For preservation of the Indian dinosaur eggs, it is believed that frequent flooding and covering of nests and eggs by sediments led to better preservation. There is evidence of flooding in the Lamenta sediments where nests have been found. On the surface on which the nests and eggs are exposed, we find pebbles of fairly large size, which could only have been brought there by flood waters."

 

Prithiraj Chungkham, a gold medalist geologist and Senior Basin Researcher currently based in Singapore, avers that dinosaurs could have travelled thousands of miles to nest or lay eggs in India.

 

Since studying and appreciating Hinduism, especially the Hare Krishna community I have learned that this community t allows science and God to co-exist. I have learnt that the Universe was created with the primal sound OM (or AUM?), which is similar to the big bang theory.

 

QUESTION: Dinosaurs' bones and eggs that have been found everywhere in the world especially in India, but why never heard about the existence of Dinosaurs in the History Hinduism or in Vedas?

 

Sorry Prabhujis, matajis just curious...

 

God Bless,

Myra

 

 

 

 

[Govindaram]

 

in the previous yuga's animals were much larger,

this is how i see dinosaurs...

 

BUT

 

how come human remains are never found which are 230m years.?

 

are the bones of humans diff from animals?

 

*sigh* tyra rex..would have made a nice pet.

 

[Kulapavana]

Vedas were not focusing on describing animals living in different yugas. some huge sea animals (timingila) are mentioned more as curiosity surviving at the time the Vedas were recorded. civilized human fossils from previous yugas are rare or non-existent because these folks cremated their dead and rarely lived in areas where bone fossilization is possible (swamps or deserts). also, the ruins of their buildings were mostly used up as building material source for subsequent people so not much is left of such ancient structures today.

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna

 

Dear sir i know of a very extremely good book/article on this very topic..:

 

http://www.kamakoti.org/hindudharma/part14/chap1.htm

 

please note to click next at the bottom of the page..

 

Shambo Shankara Namaha Shivaaya

Winand.

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna

 

and excerpt from chap 3 of the above book:

 

"Even today human skeletons that are ten or twelve feet long are found here and there. Also are discovered the skeletons of huge animals which are extinct today but which agree with the descriptions contained in the Puranas. From such discoveries it seems likely that in the hoary past demons as tall as palm-trees must have existed, also animals like yalis with the body of a lion and trunk of an elephant. A human skeleton of which the legs alone measure 16 feet and the remains of an animal ten times bigger than an elephant have been discovered in the Arctic region."

 

W.

[Guest guest]

One thought thats been around is that Dinosaurs and neanderthals are the skeletons from the end of the previous Kali Yuga. At that time it is said animals will grow very large, and humans very small. Man will become like an animal, with low intelligence and animalistic.

[Guest guest]

kutchscience

Vigyan Prasar

Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:29 AM

The print is about 17 inches long and does look like a normal human footprint.

 

 

GUJARATI http://www.bombaysamachar.com/20040814/desh04.htm DETAILS ARE in News Prints

kutchScience/message/123

Some Geologist do disagree with the human footprints in Older layers but they need to understand the later formations, on the layer of old fossilated layers which are indistiguisable from the newly formed layers at the same place. (read below)

Hominid Foot prints found in older layers may have been formed later in the geological process but the study of Photomicrographs and infrared photography is required so that to eliminate that there were no signs of carving or artificial markings in or around the prints. A study of microscopic count of sand grains is ralso required so indicating that the material within the prints had been impacted, and created as the result of a force pressing down on the firmament while it was soft. These facts show that the prints were made by the natural result of pressure from the human foot, and in no way could have been duplicated by carving. The rock in which the prints were discovered was estimated to be 100 million years old. In recent years, the prints may have been stolen by "thieves and vandals."

so POP moulds has been prepared and saved, also a portion has been damaged while removing POP moulds in parts from the print fossile. Many geologist did visited the place secretely when no other one was there!

Distictive features of the Hominid foot prints.

1) Impresion of distinctive head of First metatarsal of right foot with very wel-marked all toes.

2) Impresion of distinctive lost planter arch suggesting flat footed heavy weight,

3) wel proportionate size (wide- long ) and toes impressions

4) many prints are worn out and some of diff sizes and different directions too

5) welmarked foot print size 43Cm - can suggest Body height of about 9 feet jiant's HOMINID foot print.

Those who do not have sufficient knowledge, do disagree with views, Many doubts that this is not called the fossil. and many say that layers are too old and human was not there. but is the Human evolution time scale is adaquate? Man made structures under sea in the Rameshwaram to shriLanka do stand in favour of the Human activity long before, if that was RAMA time was RAVAN there and was history of KOTESHWAR formation correct. then human evolution and Darvin may be INCORRECT or just a guess and Human evolution history should be written in correct way and order as western world is unaware of these VEDIC science and so predict wrong way.

[Guest guest]

 

The dinosaurs were destroyed ~65 million years ago and humans have not been around for more than ~2 million years. The fossils were not unearthed and studied until the last few centuries, until which no knowledge of these animals and eras existed. It follows the 3000 yr old Vedas and the 2000 yr old bible did not talk about Ds as they were not aware of them.

 

Humble regards,

 

 

 

[Pankaja_Dasa]

 

 

The dinosaurs were destroyed ~65 million years ago and humans have not been around for more than ~2 million years.

 

 

They like to make thoery and keep thier jobs. What was happeneing in-between these 65 million years? How come Human civilisation [Humans are Millions times more better than Dinos] took place in-between 2 million years? OH yes the Asteriod crashed on Earth, which kick-started Evolution. This Asteriod came from 'outer space', and NOW scientists are looking for this same substance. Which they call 'Unlocking the Mysteries of the Universe'.

 

Next subject 'the BIG Bang'. Universe=Big Bang.

 

A colososal explosion caused this Universe to be created. Then the planets were formed and so on. 'God' was brought in as a fail-safe person for the 'Believers', while the Scientists work on a cure for Cancer and Death. Freezing bodies can be done, they can very easily in 'the future; be brought back in a Lab. There is also a possibility of Time Travel. On paper it sounds very convincing to mundane men of the World. Because nobody has any brain to inquire. Commen sence is lost. What does all the above 'knowledge' do for the Human civilisation? Big-bang, and Dinos, except create Athiestic society. None of it can be proven.

 

#1 Who created the big-bang?

#2 Can Scientists create anything with a 'bang'?

#3 Can a Scientist revive a dead body with a bang?

#4 Can a scientist make a human being?

#5 Can a scientist make a brain?

 

If a scientist does all the above, whats his gain? Why should anybody praise THE scientist? Everything is already here. If a scientist can create an ant, what is his gain? There are millions of ants. If scientists can create a human, so what?.. there are Billions of Humans.

 

Lets say they create an ant, [impossible]. Why should we praise the Scientist? Who created the Scientist? His father right. And who created his father etc. Any commen man will say, my fathers father. So who is the Original Father of creation? Scientists will say its Nature or chemical combination [no diff]. That means chemical combination has lots of brains [more than scientists]. So we should all worship Chemicals! And who put these checimals here [after all thats all it is]. What kind of chemical am I? Spiritual chemical? Possible? Scientists claim that there is lots of things undiscovered by them [true]. So who is the Authority? Where do I get knowledge of all these different chemicals which make up human life?

 

After all chemical combinations is what Scientists claim how everything was created. So could they deny a spiritual chemical. If they deny, can they prove? Actually nobody can prove. It's already there, Soul-consciousness. When somebody is dead, there is no consciousness. Actually they want proof of everything, the want to know everything, but they won't goto any Authority, except listen to thier own minds. They refuce anybody else who may claim to know. Basically they are faithless. They have no faith in Supreme Lord. They think themsleves very big, and good. But they cannot go byond, birth, death, old age, and diseace. They are trying to be something they are not. Trying to be mini-Gods. Faith is the only single factor to believe in Krishna or God. If you don't have faith then your dead [consciousness]. Your actually what you say you are, a combination of chemicals. Dead matter. You have no exsistance.

 

Anyway if you want knowledge, there are many, dead knowledge and real knowledge. Read is Krishna Consciousness. We don't want dead knowledge.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Modern science is also partially a hoax. There is something like "forbidden archaeology"—things that just shouldn't be there, and for that reason are swept under the carpet. An example of this are the famous Ica Stones of southern Peru. How old they exactly are, nobody knows, but a sure thing is that one third of all of them (there are thousands) depict dinosaurs IN THE COMPANY OF MEN. Please have a look at this and tell me what you think... It's pretty amazing. Check this out:

 

http://genesismission.4t.com/dinosaurs/Ica_stones.html

 

or just enter "Ica Stones" on any search machine like Google.

[Guest guest]

there is a book called "forbidden archaeology" - its seriously fat - but excellent scientific read. By Arnold Cremo, who apparently is also an ISKCON affiliate.

 

The book talks of ancient human culture - and i'm talking MILLIONS of years. Def recommended.

[Guest guest]

 

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/lepper.html

[Guest guest]

 

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom/lepper.html

 

 

 

The Scientists or (AparoxaJnanis, the Rishis, GOD)? Mr Cremo and Thompson are no Aparoxajnanis. The scientists claim should be refuted by logical reasoning and not merely by saying that Aparoxajnanis said so.

[Guest guest]

http://www.ridgenet.net/~do_while/sage/index.htm

[vijay]

Thanks for that link, but again thats one persons perception there are other scientists perceptions and dhrutakarmas own defence of the claims.

This is examined in his book Forbidden Archeology's Impact which was realesed due to the amount of reaction he recieved from the scientific community positive and bad.

 

After reading both side of the arguments (which i've started reading a few years ago) I've realised one thing for sure, if some one makes bold statemnets on either side without researching the topic are arrogant and not knowledgable.