Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 My friend asked me how to get out of such a cycle of sinning and atonement,sinning and atonement...etc.? He's afraid that God is going to lose all patience and pull the rug from underneath him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armisael108 Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 He's afraid that God is going to lose all patience and pull the rug from underneath him. *** He needs this because it is useless to go through atonement unless the roots of desires are pulled out. See this: "SB 6.1.11. Sukadeva Gosvami, the son of Vedavyasa, answered: My dear King, since acts meant to neutralize impious actions are also fruitive, they will not release one from the tendency to act fruitively. Persons who subject themselves to the rules and regulations of atonement are not at all intelligent. Indeed, they are in the mode of darkness. Unless one is freed from the mode of ignorance, trying to counteract one action through another is useless because this will not uproot one's desires. Thus even though one may superficially seem pious, he will undoubtedly be prone to act impiously. Therefore real atonement is enlightenment in perfect knowledge, Vedanta, by which one understands the Supreme Absolute Truth." Krishna even says that to those He is merciful He removes all material capacities so that the soul will surrender to Krishna's will instead of his mind's will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 nice post sastric quote a transcendental science posting haribol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anadi Posted November 17, 2003 Report Share Posted November 17, 2003 Bhagavad gita 10.10 teSAM satata-yuktAnAM / bhajatAM priti-pUrvakam dadAmi buddhi-yogaM taM / yena mAm upayAnti te teSAM —for those; bhajatAM —who worship Me; priti-pUrvakam — with love; (and) satata-yuktAnAM —who desire My eternal connection; dadAmi —I bestow; tam—that; buddhi-yogam—transcendental knowledge; yena—whereby; te—they; upayAnti — approach; mAm—Me. Upon those who perform bhajana to Me with love, yearning for My eternal association, I bestow the transcendental knowledge by which they can come to Me. “So, they attain satisfaction and bliss. According to Your statement, Your bhaktas attain supreme bliss only by performing bhakti to You. It is therefore clear that they are beyond the guNas. But how do they get direct realisation of You and from whom do they learn the process to achieve it?” Anticipating this question from Arjuna, Sri Bhagavan speaks this Sloka beginning with the word teSAm. “I Myself inspire all of the natural tendencies within the hearts of those who desire My eternal association so that they achieve this. This buddhi-yoga cannot be achieved by individual effort or obtained from someone. It is bestowed by Me alone and only such loving bhaktas are qualified to receive it. After being blessed with this buddhi-yoga, they achieve Me.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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