Govindaram Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 MP3 Audio lectures of Swami B.G. Narasingha are now available for download online: http://www.devavision.org/gosai/audio.html KrsnaTalk 48 The Proof of Your Devotion by Swami B.G. Narasingha QUESTION: I once heard a devotee say that the proof of when your devotion has become real bhakti is when you can take the betel-nut prasadam from the mouth of Krsna and place it in the mouth of Radharani. Is this the actual standard by which we are to measure or understand when we have real bhakti? ANSWER: If this is how you are to measure real devotion, then you are either dead or dreaming! Dead means that you have already left this mortal world and you are residing in the eternal pastimes of the Supreme Lord, and dreaming means that you are wasting your valuable time with sahajiya thoughts. In this life real bhakti or devotion is never measured in such a way. <font color="red"> The measure of ones real devotion is taken from the negative feeling and not from the positive. The less you feel that you have devotion, then the more you actually have it. Or the more you feel that you have devotion, then the less you actually have it. One who thinks he is the lowest is actually the highest and one who thinks he is the highest is actually the lowest. </font color> "I have no love or devotion to Krsna. I am so, unfortunate. If I had even a drop of pure love of Krsna I could not maintain my life in this mundane world for another moment." That should be the tenor of our thought. The negative feelings of the devotee attract Krsna. In the negative sentiment we find that the devotee has become very meek and humble. Krsna finds this humility very relishable. And where we find the positive feeling, "Yes, I have real devotion" then the devotee becomes puffed up with false pride and Krsna is displeased. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has shown the negative line in His "Siksastakam" prayers. Mahaprabhu says, "Durdaivam idrsam ihajani nanuragah, I have no love for Your holy name." We can approach the holy name of Krsna formally, but without entering the negative line of thought as Mahaprabhu prays, then we cannot chant the holy name of Krsna from the core of our heart. First admit, "I have no devotion, no love for Krsna." Not only should we feel that we have no love or devotion for Krsna but we should also feel that we have no good qualities whatsoever. We are bankrupt of anything favorable for real devotion. We are the lowest of mankind. Worse! We are the lowest of the low. Then we can come to the platform of humility. Then real devotion begins. Then we can have real bhakti. But our problem is that we think that we are something special, that we have rights and that Krsna should honor us by showering us with praises, followers, and wealth. We want to be respected and acknowledged for our insignificant service. We want to be called "Prabhu" or "Maharaja" or "Visnupada" or "Prabhupada" or by some other honorific title. We are offended is someone calls us "Dasa." We are offended when we are asked to serve another Vaisnava because we want to be the guru and to be served by everyone. That is our disease. Therefore we cannot chant the holy name of Krsna from the core of our heart and we are simply rotting in this material existence. We want prestige (an honorable position) but we should know that prestige is our greatest enemy. We should look upon prestige as if it were the stool of a hog and hatefully reject it. jader pratistha, sukarer vistha, jano na ki taha 'mayar vaibhava "Materialistic prestige is as disgusting as the stool of a hog. Do you not know that it is only a mere illusion cast by the potency of Maya?" (Vaisnava Ke?, verse 2) So give up everything and accept the lowest position. Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, Haridasa Thakura and others were very dear to Lord Chaitanya because they rid their hearts of false prestige. Although they were highly qualified devotees they accepted the lowest position and though of themselves as having no good qualities. They were humble and therefore they were very dear to Lord Caitanya. trnad api sunicena, taror api sahisnuna amanina manadena, kirtaniyah sada harih "One who is humbler than a blade of grass, more forbearing than a tree, who gives due honor to others without desiring it for himself is qualified to always chant the holy name of Krsna." Haridasa Thakura is recognized by Mahaprabhu as the Namacarya, the perfect example of chanting the holy name of Krsna. Haridasa was a lower cast by birth, but although he was adorned with all good qualities and very dear to Lord Chaitanya he never clamored for position, or to be respected in society. In the material world no one is satisfied with the body they have or with their position in society. Everyone wants a change of position. Women want the position of men. Men want to become women. Everyone wants recognition and everyone is suffering because they do not accept their natural position given to them by the Supreme Lord. Everyone wants to change, to move up the so-called ladder of success. I cannot become God so let me become a master (Prabhu) or a sannyasi or let me become a guru, then I will be successful and satisfied. But this is simply Maya's illusion of success. Change this, change that and then you will be happy. Then you will be advanced in Krsna consciousness. This idea should be rejected. If change comes to us by the desire or the order of the higher Vaisnavas then we should accept change. Otherwise one should learn to be satisfied with whatever service Krsna has given him/her. That is a sign that you have real devotion. Our only desire should be to serve and we should also desire that any remuneration for our service should simply be more energy for more service - more service and more hankering for more unmotivated service. Let no other desire enter our heart. Everything for Krsna and nothing for one's self. That should be our attempt. Total self-abnegation to the highest degree and that will take us to a plane of higher life, higher thinking, die to live! The life of a devotee is based on sacrifice, death of the false ego. As much as there is sacrifice, there is life for a devotee, die to live. If we cannot sacrifice/serve then we might as well never have been born in the human form of life. The closer we come to Krsna, we may think that He is very far away, but we will not abandon our service. We will go on with our service in separation. aslisya va .-ratam pinastu mam adarsanam marma-hatam karotu va yatha tatha va vidadhattu lampato mat-prana-nathas tu sa eva naparah "Krsna may embrace me in love or trample me under His feet. He may break my heart by hiding Himself from me. Let that debauchee do whatever he likes, but He will always be the only Lord of my life." Mahaprabhu uttered this verse and it is the deep heartfelt sentiments of Srimati Radharani that He is expressing. The greatest devotee of Krsna is Srimati Radharani. She has the greatest love, the greatest devotion to Krsna. Srila Sridhara Maharaja once said that if Krsna is indifferent to His devotee then that is more intolerable than punishment. The law of love cannot tolerate indifference. Even punishment is more desirable than indifference. In punishment Krsna is closer, but if He is indifferent to us then we may naturally feel that everything is lost or that we are unwanted. When we are chastised or punished by our master then this is a sign that our master cares for our improvement, but if he is indifferent then that may mean that he is disgusted with us. Therefore a devotee never resents chastisement because he knows it to be the mercy of Krsna. But the fact is that because Krsna is an autocrat He is sometimes indifferent and we must be ready to tolerate that and not make any demand of Krsna to show us any special attention. Our service must be like that of a slave, without rights or demands. In all circumstance we must go on with our service. So we will know that our devotion has become real bhakti when we have no demands to make of the Supreme Lord, not even the prayer to become pure so we can serve Him better. Let whatever karma or suffering is due to us from our previous sinful activities fall on our heads, but let us never deviate from the one pointed desire to serve the Supreme Lord, be it in Heaven or in Hell. ------ SWAMI B. G. NARASINGHA MP3 LECTURES ONLINE http://www.devavision.org/gosai/audio.html SWAMI B. G. NARASINGHA ARTICLES http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/nmj_articles/indexna.html KRSNA TALK ARTICLES INDEX http://www.gosai.com/krishnatalk_fs.html SUBSCRIBE KRSNA TALK http://www.gosai.com/krishnatalk_fs.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Thank you for sharing this, prabhu. Taking shelter of the spiritual world requires us to become ever smaller, while this material sphere constantly encourages us to increase in size, simply in order to survive let alone thrive. Success here could be defined as being served, rather than being of service, the exact opposite of Goloka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 This is one of the best articles I've heard in a long time. And it's directed at devotees too! … it's deeper than I can go. Hey, I copied this for reference. Copied all the colors and formatting too. Cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cRimAl Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 "Krsna may embrace me in love or trample me under His feet. He may break my heart by hiding Himself from me. Let that debauchee do whatever he likes, but He will always be the only Lord of my life." I always loved this one. It pretty much describes how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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