Haridham Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Hare Krsna everyone. Long time no post. I hope all is well. I am doing well, just dropped by after something caught my eye and thought about what a better place then this to discuss this. I just saw an episode of "Ripley's believe it or not" where at a temple RATS are worshipped. Yes RATS. Apparently they are reincarnated people and there are white rats too who are reincarnted sons of some goddess. Apparently the rats are never harmed no kicked out from the temple and the food that the rats eat are eatan by the devotees there as prasadam or something. People really should read the Bhagavad gita. Why worship a rat or some goddesses sons who have reincarnated as rats, why not worship krsna. Sounds preety tamasic to me. Anyways, what is the vedic idea behind all of this and what about the rest of my fellow devotee opinions? Rats being worshipped......Believe it! Hare Krsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2004 Report Share Posted January 24, 2004 Isn't that a Ganesh temple? Ganesh protects mice and probably rats too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I know the temple you are talking about. Have seen it on TV many times. Its a temple in Bikaner, Rajastan(INDIA). I am not sure abt the deity in that temple. Might be Durga I guess!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 If the rats aren't dead, its not tamasic to worship them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ancient_paztriot Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I would say insane is a better word… including alot of others. I've called people animals. I think insect is temperate here. This guest is sickening to all the devotees here. Moderators, can you do something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dervish Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same "Guest" on the "Sanskrit Veda" thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 …the "what is scripture" thread and others. …Sometimes favorable post, mostly presumptuous challenges he quickly drops for some other criticism. (I think Priitaa is right about the Guest and/or associates being registered also.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranen Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I agree with you Haridham that we should all worship Krishna, but it is also important to respect past traditions and practices. The Lord has various forms and this temple you are talking about seems to be a Ganesh one. As we all know, demigods are partial representations of the Lord and as such, there is nothing wrong in paying one's respects to a demigod, as long as you realise that Krishna is supreme, all is well. Even Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu would often go to temples of Lord Shiva to offer his obeisances. Serving the Lord is important, but serving the servant of the Lord is even mote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govindaram Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 He is not a Rat, Krishna incarnated as a boar and fish, but theres no sciptural quotes saying that krishna ever incarnated as a Rat. haribol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Haribol true, prabhu, but some of those that worship the demigods, actually think of the demigods as Supreme. Say, for instance, it is an offence to say Lord Shiva or Lord Brahma are equal to or higher than Krishna. however, some people may be offended if they are told this. so, hinduism is called by many "the unorganized religion." one should serve the servant of the lord, yes, but not treating the servant of the lord as if he were more important, or superior or equal to Krishna. serve the servant of the lord in a sense that Krishna will be happy by this, not that i am serving Krishna directly. yes, it is good, but to a limit. hope that isn't confusing. Hare Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 yep i seen the programme too, on discovery channel or something a while ago. Quite perplexing and bizarre, seems very dirty too. The temple is actually a Lord Ganesh temple, and because the rat is the vahana (vehicle) or Lord Ganesh, they treat it with respect, and so it seems to have gone way out of control. I was getting itchy just watching the programme, and yet there were peopple sharing prasad with them. I guess we must respect old traditions and such things, but this was dirty, a mandir is a holy place and should be clean. People believe in different forms of Krishna Bhagavan, and we must respect that. I believe in all different forms of Lord Krsna and all Lord Shiva, Lord Ganesh are all ONE Supreme Lord. This is what im unsure about and a bit confused, and something i want to ask, do the followers mostly involved with ISCKON only think that KRSNA is God, i mean we all do, but do you not consider forms such as Lord Gansh or Lord Shiva as God? It whens you ask questions like why do they not worship only KRSNA that i get confused I would be grateful if you could clarify this, no offence ment to anyone, after all i am also a believer of Supreme Krsna Bhagavan. Minesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised if this was the same "Guest" on the "Sanskrit Veda" thread. Nope, not me. I have no idea what was in that message. By the time I saw it, the moderator had deleted it. Judging by the "graphic" response, it must have been bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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