laxm_thirtha Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 Hi all, One of my very close friend is a spiritual being in the sense, she worships Vishnu, Ganesha and Raghavendra swamy. I once asked her to read Bhagavat Gita and told her that if she follows it correctly, she will be ever happy. She says that she cannot give up her desires so she does not wont to read the book. As we were speaking, I just told her the humans should mate only to have children, but she disagrees, she says that mating is for pleasure and enjoyment. What could I say; I thought that there is no use speaking to such people about adyatma and stuff. Why do they worship god when they do not know that they should strive for God realization. I have also seen people make business out of God. I mean, they pray to God and say things like " God if you give something, I will give you something back in return like say 100 coconuts or bananas". What can they give him back in return when he is the one to gives us everything. Finally I came to one conclusion that if Krishna wants them to be like that, what can an insignificant being like me do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lover_soul Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 There is a time for everything. I guess she will gradually rise above to a level where she wants more, finally getting a higher taste and living peacefully from there on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubri Posted March 9, 2004 Report Share Posted March 9, 2004 hi i think your friend is more evolved regarding spirituality than many of us. she is not hypocritcal but truthful and frank when she said she cant give up her desires and regarded sex as something pleasurable and enjoyable. i think people who are truthful and non hypocrical have already won half the battle. and are placed far ahead than many others who talk one thing , think one thing and do another thing. rest assured...krishna is very close to your friend. and regarding asking boons of god in return for services rendered by the devotee: well u can look at it from a lot of views....and that is another huge unnecessary discussion peace to everyone. whatever path. straight or crooked. have a wonderful journey. lets exchange notes at the final ending of all paths. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 No humans can give up desire, but the desire for material things should be chanalized and directed towards the supreme. We should have the desire to know God and not have desire for material things. F.U.I, no one can give up desire. Its very hard for Men to control sexual desires, but for women its very easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 i fully agree. in time everyone treads the path to the supreme. but not all at the same time. or else creation will be in chaos...that is the beauty of it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2004 Report Share Posted March 10, 2004 One thing that may work as words fail is just show the fruits of your own conviction. She will see that and be effected by it, as will others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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