sudhaya Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Hare Krsna Could any devotees say what feelings you can have when/if you surrender to instructions of Guru? /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 for any of Prabhupada's or others disciples to answer such a question. We are all individuals and will have our own feelings specific to ourselves. Best we adventure into this territory ourselves to get a real understanding. There may be some general things said like humility, gratitude or even love, but until we experience these qualities for ourselves they will exist within our minds as empty words only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Such a nice devotee you are. You are soOO deep. I'm more interested in hearing from you - a sincere and introspective soul. You first… in your own words, of coarse. I'd like to hear what that nice devotee named "Krsna" says too. I'm all ears! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Why this sarcasm? Why are you always making fun of others and why pick on Krsna particularly? You need to give up your ego and anger, if you desire to become a pure devotee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Why are YOU sincere… and I'm not? Sarcastic? OOooh misconstrue? (My only French). No serious reply? No evident bhakti? I'M SORRY. I read you wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 On the too few occasions when my act may have come together, what I noticed was first the total lack of anxiety and the world, and continuing seemingly forever, a sense of complete bewilderment. When I remember, mostly while chanting, these feelings again surround me, and I feel at home, again. But like Theist says it is all personal, subjective, unquantifiable, and unverifiable. But it is all that is real in my world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudhaya Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 "I'm more interested in hearing from you - a sincere and introspective soul." Oooh really? I don't think so Prabhuji, I am too deep even for myself, my keyboard would merge into Brahman, and I would be committing spiritual suicide by telling you 'how I feel'. Everybodys at thier cross-roads in life, not knowing where to go, so I try not to listen to my mind so much, otherwise it will take me to Disney Land Maya. /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 You cannot take what you give out! Who are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudhaya Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 I only followed your lead. {b] Hey Jude Hey Jude, don't make it bad take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her into your heart Then you can start to make it better Hey Jude, don't be afraid You were made to go out and get her The minute you let her under your skin The you begin to make it better And anytime you feel the pain Hey Jude refrain don't carry the world upon your shoulders For well you know that it's a fool who plays it cool By making his world a little colder Na na na na na na na na na Hey Jude don't let me down You have found her, now go and get her Remember to let get into your heart then you can start to make it better So let it out and let it in Hey Jude begin You're waiting for someone to perform with And don't you know that it's just you Hey Jude, you'll do The movement you need is on your shoulder Na na na na na na na na na yeah Hey Jude Hey Jude, don't make it bad take a sad song and make it better Remember to let her under your skin Then you can begin to make it better Better, better, better, better, better, oh Na, na na na na na na na na na na, hey Jude Na, na na na na na na na na na na, hey Jude Na, na na na na na na na na na na, hey Jude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 C'mon guys! It takes two to tango... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sudhaya Posted April 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 not to argue about nonsence. You seem paranoid or something, just leave me in peace. I won't reply to any of your posts I request you do the same for me, bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 As you wish. Revolution You say you want a revolution Well, you know We all want to change the world You tell me that it's evolution Well, you know We all want to change the world But when you talk about destruction Don't you know that you can count me out Don't you know it's gonna be all right Don't you know it's gonna be all right Don't you know it's gonna be all right You say you got a real solution Well, you know We'd all love to see the plan You ask me for a contribution Well, you know We're doing what we can But when you want money for people with minds that hate All I can tell is brother you have to wait Don't you know it's gonna be all right Don't you know it's gonna be all right Don't you know it's gonna be all right You say you'll change the constitution Well, you know We all want to change your head You tell me it's the institution Well, you know You better free you mind instead But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow Don't you know it's gonna be all right Don't you know it's gonna be all right Don't you know it's gonna be all right All right, all right... – Beatles ............................. I suspect you'll reincarnate in some other form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Sudaya said in another thread that he is Govindaram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 or just another CITIZEN!… ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN Time will come when we know what happened here Change will come in time and make it clear We learn one thing if we learn at all In the secret wars we call our lives Anything can happen We watch the days, we make our plans We change in ways a life demands But what ever pleasure this life may allow I'll give you the love I have for you now Because anything can happen In a world so full of fear Dreams are whispered in the dead of night And people disappear But you hear my heart and you know I'm still here Although you know and I know you know While I swear I'll never let you go Anything can happen Yeah, if this love can happen here Anything can We watch the days we make our plans We change in ways a life demands I'll always remember this time, this place The hope in your voice, the light on your face Because anything can happen In a world so full of pain People give their lives to making war And we call those people sane But I love you where your dreams remain Though you never say it anymore One day there'll be an end to this war And who knows We may see what we're here for Anything can happen Yeah, if this love has found us here Anything can Can happen WHEN THE STONE BEGINS TO TURN I come here for Dr. King Who gave the people a precious thing He found a light in the darkest hour And the strength for speaking truth to power And in the years since they shot him down You see changes that once were a dream Begin to come around When the walls have begun to crumble When the laws have begun to burn When the winds is singing freedom When the stone begins to turn And I come here to praise Mandela And to send this message to his jailer Your walls may hold the man inside But they'll never ever hold back the tide 'Cause in the years you've shut him away A generation has grown where he stood They're gonna see the day When the walls have begun to crumble When the laws have begun to burn When the wind is singing freedom When the stone begins to turn We come here to sing for freedom And to send our voices to the ones who need them Freedom for South Africa And justice for Nelson Mandela 'Cause in the years they've shut him away A generation has grown where he stood We're gonna see the day When the walls have begun to crumble When the laws have begun to burn When the wind is singing freedom When the stone begins to turn THE WORD JUSTICE A man stands up before God and country Raises his right hand and takes an oath Swears he has acted in the line of duty And he more than anyone wants to tell the truth But there is a need to keep some things a secret Some weapons shipments--some private wars In the future democracy will be defended Behind closed doors Now the men of Congress who convene to determine If covert war is a business or a crime Are the same men who routinely give their permission For the shedding of blood in security's name And there is a need to keep some things a secret The names of some countries--the terms of some deals And above all the sound of the screams of the innocent Beneath our wheels Does the word justice mean anything to you? Are the features of a lie beginning to come through? In the streets of America the children are buried Caught in an avalanche of weapons and drugs They live and they die in the bowels of a business That's disguised as a war between The Crips and The Bloods And there is a need to keep some things a secret The C.I.A. deals protecting the source And the government policies directly connecting the drugs and our wars Does the word justice mean anything to you? As the battlefield comes home and democracy falls through I am waiting for the time to come When the word will be real for everyone And not just a word but a thing that can be done But justice must be won! - Jackson Browne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 My personal revenge will be the right Of our children in the schools and in the gardens My personal revenge will be to give you This song which has flourished without panic My personal revenge will be to show you The kindness in the eyes of my people Who have always fought relentlessly in battle And been generous and firm in victory My personal revenge will be to tell you good morning On a street without beggars or homeless When instead of jailing you I suggest You shake away the sadness there that blinds you And when you who have applied your hands in torture Are unable to look up at what surrounds you My personal revenge will be to give you These hands that once you so mistreated But have failed to take away their tenderness It was the people who hated you the most When rage became the language of their song And underneath the skin of this town today Its heart has been scarred forevermore It was the people who hated you the most When rage became the language of their song And underneath the skin of this town today Its heart has been scarred forevermore And underneath the skin of this town today Red and black, its heart's been scarred Forevermore – Jackson Browne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 And the river opens for the righteous (5 times) Someday I was walking with my brother And he wondered what's on my mind I said what I believe in my soul Ain't what I see with my eyes And we can't turn our backs this time I am a patriot And I love my county Because my country is all I know I want to be with my family The people who understand me I've got nowhere else to go And the river opens for the righteous And the river opens for the righteous And the river opens for the righteous Someday And I was talking with my sister She looked so fine I said, "Baby, what's on your mind?" She said, "I want to run like the lion Released from the cages Released from the rages Burning in my heart tonight" And I ain't no communist And I ain't no capitalist And I ain't no socialist And I ain't no imperialist And I ain't no democrat And I ain't no republican I only know one party And it is freedom I am, I am, I am I am a patriot And I love my country Because my county is all I know And the river opens for the righteous And the river opens for the righteous And the river opens for the righteous Someday I said what I believe in my soul Ain't what I see with my eyes! And the river opens for the righteous... – Jackson Browne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Here's to lights and virtues Here's to truths yet to be known Knowledge to light the darkness The search for things of your own Here's to lights and virtues Here's to reaching higher ground A life of hope and purpose Here's to strength yet to be found Honor -- though it goes unrecognized And truth -- though liars abound The pleasure of love and friendship The courage to be alone – Jackson Browne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 8, 2004 Report Share Posted April 8, 2004 Mama told me when I was young Sit beside me, my only son And listen closely to what I say And if you do this It will help you some sunny day Oh take your time, don't live too fast Troubles will come and they will pass Go find a woman and you'll find love And don't forget, son There is someone up above And be a simple kind of man Oh be something you love and understand Baby, be a simple kind of man Oh, won't you do this for me, son If you can Forget your lust for the rich man's gold All that you need is in your soul And you can do this if you try All that I want for you, my son is to be satisfied And be a simple kind of man Oh be something you love and understand Baby, be a simple kind of man Oh, won't you do this for me, son If you can Boy, don't you worry You'll find yourself Follow your heart and nothing else And you can do this oh baby, if you try All that I want for you, my son is to be satisfied And be a simple kind of man Oh be something you love and understand Baby, be a simple kind of man Oh, won't you do this for me, son If you can – Lynyrd Skynard… shoot me if I get it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Down the side streets and the avenue There be sisters walkin' two by two Their dresses and their shoes are new But their hearts are weary thru and thru And it's a long way into the light of the day While the juke box and the radio play Where the days turn into the nights People move into the sounds and sights Like the moth is drawn into the lights Like the tight-rope walker into the heights It's in their hearts, it's in their hips, It's in their feet, it's on their lips Tonight's the night I'm gonna make you mine Gonna dance right out onto the edge of time When the sound starts pumpin' And the lights are flashin' And my hearts-a-thumpin' And I feel the passion And the world is right there waiting At my finger tips Disco... apocalypse In the dawn the city seems to sigh And the hungry hear their children cry People watch the time go by They do their jobs and live and die And in their dreams they rise above By strength, or hate, or luck, or love Tonight's the night I'm gonna make you mine Gonna dance right out onto the edge of time When the world starts turnin' And the dreams are burnin' And the skies awaken Through the wind and the fire They will be dancing still It's in their hearts, it's in their hips, it's in their feet, it's on their lips A single sound that never ends They die each night and live again I'm gonna make you mine Tonight's the night Out on the edge of time With the dreams of flesh and love dancing in my mind Dancing through the fire on the edge of time – Jackson Browne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 Hold on hold out, keep a hold on strong The money's in and the bets are down You won't hold out long They say you'll fall in no time at all But you know they're wrong They've known it all along Yea- Hold on hold out, keep a hold on still If you don't see what your love is worth No one ever will You've done your time on the bottom line And it ain't no thrill There's got to be something more Keep a hold on still You know what it is you're waiting for Now you just hold on Hold on hold out, hold on Give up your heart and you lose your way Trusting another to feel that way Give up your heart and you find yourself Living for something in somebody else Sometimes you wonder what happens to love Sometimes the touch of a friend is enough Hold a place for the human race Keep it open wide Give it time to fall or climb But let the time decide Sometimes you wonder what's in this for you But you wait, and you see 'Cause it's all you can do Just to hold on Hold on hold out, hold on For the countless souls beaten by their goals Keep a hold on now And the ones betrayed by the deals they made Keep a hold on If you hold your ground it'll turn around Keep a hold somehow Hold on hold out, keep a hold on tight Tonight's the night Wake up and turn on the light You fight, and you're right-- It's gonna take all your might... You're a hold out Well I'm a hold out too But it took me all this time to figure out Something you already knew Will love be true? Can it pull you through? How long? How strong? Some things depend on you See-- I always figured I was gonna to meet somebody here and I don't know why Why should love suddenly come down and just sweep me away I want to fly But there are so many things in my way Anyway... I guess you wouldn't know unless I told you I.. I love you And just look at yourself-- I mean what else would I do? Hold on… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancient_paztriot Posted April 9, 2004 Report Share Posted April 9, 2004 In the morning when I closed my eyes You were sleeping in paradise And while the room was growing light I was holding still with all my might Oh--what if it's true ...What my heart says Oh--what'll I do What if this feeling becomes hard to part with You were meant to play your part In the design of a desperate heart And while you gave your love to me I was betting I was getting it free Oh-- If I'd only known ...What your heart cost Oh-- can we call it a loan And a debt that I owe On a bet that I lost In the evening when you see my eyes Looking back at you, no disguise I'm not sure who you think you'll see I'm just hoping you'll still know that it's me Oh-- what if it's true ...Better ask the man inside Oh, oh-- there seem to be two One steals the love, and the other one hides. Yeah-- can we call it a loan Till I'm paid in full for the seeds I've sown Yeah-- can we say that I've grown In someway that we may have yet to be shown Oh-- if I'd only known ...What your heart cost Oh-- can we call it a loan And a debt that I owe On a bet that I lost – Jackson Browne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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