Empirical Proof for God? Here It Is!

[ancient_paztriot]

Think about the atom. Well, isn't it obvious?

 

Think about the scripture(s) describing the atom.

 

It's not real until the scientists confirm it?

 

Did scientists "discover" the atom(s)? More likely they stole the idea from VEDIC scriptures and went looking for 'em. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[vanamali]

Science cannot confirm anything, it can only disprove.

 

Science can say "Well, we have not yet disproved such and such," which renders it quite un-trustworthy.

[Govindaram]

 

This is by anon devotee, well I know who it is, but person is bit shy, anyway here you go.

 

 

 

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Paramatma is within Everything?

 

 

 

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The smallest number of atoms a human being can see is three. Only God can see one atom or two atoms, when he sees one atom made into two god recognises duality.

 

We can see under an electron microscope that a single electron within the nucleus of an atom is both particle and wave particle being material and wave being moveable energy.

 

God is in every atom, atoms have electrons that are both material and wave. God is purusa, not prakriti. Prakriti being the part of the atom that's material particle, He purusa, the other part of the electron that consists of the energy that causes the wave. Electrons are both particle and wave; wave being purusa, particle being the material part of the electron and prakriti

 

The difference between purusa and prakriti is the same difference we see of electrons with in the nucleus of an atom. one part of the electron is prakriti the other part purusa

 

Seen like this even atoms have dual personality. God is in every atom because atoms are both purusa and prakriti

 

Say that within the nuclues of only one atom there is one electron one proton and cytoplasm surrounding the two. Lets call the cytoplasm the wind god vayu, the electron fire god agni, and the proton indra. From the outside of one small atom made up of these three things the centersome we call purusa or vishnu causes the proton indra to create thunder so loud and shaking it causes the electron agni to move quick through the cytoplasm of the wind god vayu out of the original one atom making it two.

 

Thats the divine nature of the atoms. There is a north and south pole in each atom. The atom with a north magnetic pole reaches towards purusa, and the atom with a south seeking magnetic pole goes towards prakriti or material nature.

 

What's left of our first atom is an atom with a north seeking magnetic pole, cytoplasm of the wind god vayu and the proton that's Lord indra.

 

Of our newly formed second atom is an atom with a south seeking magnetic pole that attaches itself to material nature or prakriti.

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[Avinash]

Did scientists "discover" the atom(s)? More likely they stole the idea from VEDIC scriptures and went looking for 'em.

 

I disagree completely that scientists stole the idea from Vedic scriptures. A large no. of scientists who have wooked on atoms did not read Vedic scriptures.

[Guest guest]

Vedas is for spiritualism only, not for material purposes, which is what science is. So there can be no comparison, they move in opposite directions.

[ancient_paztriot]

Of coarse, devotees don't feel they have to prove God to others for their own sake, but for Krsna's sake.

 

Prabhupada's body did not go rigomortus (not spelled right). And if there's no exceptions but his that modern science knows of, well that evidence is as empirically strong as any that God exists - since Prabhupada was a pure devotee.

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Maybe my successful website will be proof. (At least it should expose everybody - simply by telling the truth /images/graemlins/smile.gif. That's an indirect proof.

 

The concept of a knowledge base for the people in general is awesome. But not just a knowledge base, but the best wisdom and knowledge… strong enough to easily deal with the problems of science, business and politics. But the ability of Krsna to relate through these monitors on His own terms - as arranged by Prabhupada - is Inconceivably wonderful.

 

The fact that I only really get it (short of hitting the road) makes me uniquely different - and outta time. But I do enjoy it.

 

[jayaisvara]

Hare Krishna, Jaya Srila Prabhupada

 

 

During 1893, Sir Vivekananda came to Chicago to spread some of his philosophy where some information dealt with matter, energy, and universe etc...Around 10 years later, 1905, Einstein propsed his groundbreaking theories which clearly dealt with matter and energy being somehow related...the famous equation was born, E=mc^2. During 1896, Ralph Griffith Translated the Vedas thus already in 1800's, there were people reading Vedas which discuss about atoms and such. Max Muller translated the Upanishads in 1879, thus, by 1910, the Western world scholars most probably knew something about the Vedas, atoms and such.

 

 

If you go to this site, http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/index.htm#vedas , it has the author of the translated scripture and the date it was translated. There are many dates predating the year 1900.

 

Thus it seems that although the knowledge of atom wasnt available for everyone, scholars and scientists and people who had connections with higher aristocratic circle, most probably had information about the atoms and such...Where else can they get such thing?

 

Any comments are welcome

[ancient_paztriot]

Alot of microbiology really undermined the Darwin evolution theories because it was found that there was no reasonable way that speech or eyesight or "many micro things" could develop without the supporting system… supporting system has no function other than to assist it's respective fully developed sense which only works with the sum of it's parts.

 

Now take the atomic matter and sub-atomic particles.

 

Since they are interdependent, how can one develop without the other?

 

Have any of the nuclear scientists who have been studying this for years had any religious insight on this?

 

Anyway, no matter how far you go, you will always ask, "Where did this come from?" Does something come from nothing?

 

BEDAZZLE me… Electrons are described as particles and waves… they also come and go, appear and disappear, without seeming cause. Now what are you gonna make of that? And how do you study it?

 

Individual atoms exists - as we- for a duration and get reabsorbed? Right? (Their parts merge with other atoms).