krsna Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 GURU-TATTVA: The Guru Principle One must accept a genuine guru in the proper disciplic line. 1. 1 tad vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet samit panim srotriyam brahma-nistham One who wants scientific knowledge about the Supreme Truth must approach a bona fide guru and offer him everything required for sacrifice. The guru must be fixed in the truth, having heard it from a genuine source. (Mundaka Upanisad 1.2.12) 1. 2 acarayavan puruso veda Only one who has a guru can know the truth. (Chandogya Upanisad 6.18.2) 1. 3 uttisthata jasrata prapya varan nibodhata ksurasya dhara nisita duratyaya durgam pathas tat kavayo vadanti Awake, arise: Having obtained the human form of life, you must not sleep in the darkness of ignorance. Awaken knowledge of your real self by associating with great souls and obtaining their mercy. This material creation is as sharp as a razor's edge, for it is the cause of many miseries. It is impossible to cross over without transcendental knowledge. Therefore one must take shelter of the great learned transcendentalists who forever sing the praises of that Supreme Person who is the destroyer of birth and death. (Katha Upanisad 1.3.14) 1. 4 yasya deve para bhaktir yatha deve tatha gurau tasyaite kathita hy artham prakasante mahatmanm To those great souls who serve both guru and Krsna with exclusive devotion, the import of the Vedas is fully revealed. (Setasvatara Upanisad 6.23) 1. 5 nayam atma pravacanena labhyo na medhaya na bahuna srutena yam evaisa vrnute tena labhyas tasyaisa atma vivrute tanum svam The Supreme Self can never be known by argument, reasoning, intelligence, or scholarship. The finite can never know the infinite. By His own sweet will, however, the Infinite may reveal Himself to the finite in His personal divine form. Those who wish to know the infinite must therefore submit to him through surrender. (Katha Upanisad 1.2.23) 1. 6 janana-maranadi-samsaranala-santapto dipta-sira jala-rasim iva upahara-panbm sotriyam brahma-nistham gurum upasrtya tam anusarati Just as a person whose head is on fire runs to water, one who burns from the flames of birth death, old age, and disease in the holocaust of material existence must run to a genuine guru for relief. Such a guru must be fixed in the Absolute Truth and well-versed in the scriptures. One should approach him with all that is needed for for sacrifice and submit to him as a disciple, ready to carry out his every instruction. (Vedanta-Sara 11) 1. 7 jiva nitya krsna-dasa, taha bhuli' gela ei dose mayat ara galaya bandhila Because the soul has forgotten that he is the eternal servant of Krsna, the illusory energy (maya ) has chained him by the neck. (Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 22.24) 1. 8 krsna bhuli' sei jiva anadi-bahir-mukha ataeva maya ta're deya samsarai dumha Because of forgetting Krsna, the soul has become averse to the loving service of the Lord since time immemorial. Thus the illusory energy gives him innumerable miseries in the material world. (Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 20.117) 1. 9 krsna-bahir-mukha haiya bhoga va-cha kare nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare pisaci paile yena mati-chhanna haya maya-grasta jivera haya se bhava udaya "ami nitya krsna-dasa" - ei katha bhule mayara naphara haiya cira -dina bule kabhu raja, kabhu praja, kabhu vipra, sudra kabhu sukhi, kabhu dumkhi, kabhu kita, ksudra kabhu svarge, kabhu martye, narake va kabhu kabhu deva, kabhu daitya kabhu dasa prabhu Being averse to the loving service of the Supreme Lord, the living entity tries to satisfy his lusty desries for sense gratification, and the illusory energy clasps him tightly within her embrace. The living entity, thus captured by the illusory energy, becomes just like a madman under a witch's spell. "I am the eternal servant of Krsna" - forgetting this, the soul becomes the slave of Maya and forever wanders through a succession of lives. Sometimes he is a king and sometimes a subject. Now he is a brahmana, now a sudra, now an insignificant ant. Sometimes happy, sometimes sad, now he goes to heaven, now to hell. Sometimes he is a god and sometimes a devil, now a servant, now a lord. (Prema-Vivarta ) 1. 10 (ei rupa) brahmanda bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva guru-krsna-prasade paya bhakti-lata-bija tate krsna bhaje kare gurura sevana mayajala chute paya sri krsna carana Wandering throughout the universe in this way, the living entity who is fortunate meets a bona fide spiritual master by the mercy of Sri Krsna. And by the mercy of the spiritual master, he receives the seed of the creeper of transcendental loving service to the Lord. By worshipping Krsna and rendering service to the spiritual master, one is liberated from the illusory world of maya, and attains the lotus feet of the Lord. (Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 19.151, 22.25) 1. 11 mukam karoti vacalam pangum langhayate girim yat krpa tam aham vande paramananda madhavam I offer my respectful obeisances unto Madhava, who is the personification of transcendental bliss. By His mercy, a blind man can see the stars in the sky, a lame man can cross mountains, and a dumb man can speak eloquent words of poetry. (Bhavartha. Dipika , Mangala Stotram 1) 1. 12 caitanya lilamrta pura, krsna lila sukarpura, duhe mile haya sumadhurya sadhu-guru-prasade, taha yei asvade, sei jane madhurya pracurya The pastimes of Sri Caitanya are the abode of nectarine love of Godhead and are just like thick condensed milk. The pastimes of Sri Krsna are just like camphor. When these are combined together, they are very sweet. By the mercy of the Gaudiya Vaisnava guru who is a true saint, one can taste that sweetness unlimitedly. (Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 25.277) A qualified guru and disciple are hard to find. 1. 13 sravanayapi bahubhir yo na labhyam srnvanto 'pi bahavo na vidyum ascaryo 'sya vakta kusalo 'sya labhda ascaryo jnata kusalanusistam Many cannot even hear about the soul, and even after hearing about the soul, many cannot understand it; this is because it is hard to find a guru who is a genuine seer of the truth. Such a qualified guru is a great soul and is very rare. At the same time, realization of the truth can be had only by those disciples who carefully follow the qualified guru's teachings and become expert in the science of God. Such disciples are also very rare. Thus it is that only a few ever come to know the soul in truth. (Katha Upanisad 1.2.7.) A genuine guru knows krsna-tattva, the truth about Krsna. He is surrendered to Krsna, and is well-versed in all the Vedic literatures. 1. 14 tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasum sreyam uttamam sabde pare ca nisnatam brahmany upasamasrayam One who is searching for the Ultimate Truth must surrender unto a spiritual master, a guru. A guru knows the inner meaning of the Vedas, is fixed in the Absolute Truth (Krsna) and is expert in the sastra, the revealed scriptures. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.3.21) 1. 15 krpa-sindhum su-sampurnam sarva-sattvopakarakam nisprham sarvatam siddham sarva-vidya-visaradam sarva-samsaya-samchetta 'nalaso gurur amrtah The Hari-bhakti-vilasa gives the following definition of a guru: One who is an ocean of mercy, who is fulfilled in all respects, who is possessed of all good qualities, who always works for the benefit of all souls, who is free from lust, who is perfect in all respects, who is well-versed in the scriptures and who knows the science of Krsna, who can remove all the doubts of his disciples, and who is always alert in the service of Krsna is to be known as a guru. (Hari-Bhakti-Vilasa 1.45,46 quoted from Visnu-smrti vacana ) A guru is a goswami, master of the senses. 1. 16 vaco vegam manasam krodha vegam jihva vegam udaropastha vegam etan vega yo visaheta dhiram sarva apimam prthivim sa sisyat A guru is one who can control the urge to speak, the mind's demands, the actions of anger, and the urges of the tongue, belly, and genitals. Such a guru is a goswami, a master of his senses and is qualified to make disciples all over the world. (Upadesamrta, 1) 1. 17 sat-karma nipuno vipro mantra-tantra-visaradam avaisnavo guru na syad vaisnavam svapaco gurum A brahmana may be expert in mantra, ritual, and the six brahminical kinds of work - performing and teaching sacrificed, studying and teaching scripture, giving and receiving charity - but if he is not a Vaisnava, he cannot be a guru. On the other hand, A Vaisnava may become a guru , even if he is born in a family of untouchable outcastes. (Hari-Bhakti-Vilasa, Padma Vacana ) A pure devotee is the guru of all the castes and social orders (varnas and asramas ) 1. 18 vipra ksatriya vaisas ca guravam sudra janmanam sudras ca guravas tesam trayanam bhagavat-priyam A brahmana, ksatriya, or vaisya are usually the gurus for those born as sudras. A Vaisnava, however, because he is dear to the Supreme Lord, is the guru of these higher castes, even if born a sudra. (Padma Purana ) 1. 19 kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene naya yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei guru haya Whether a person is a brahmana, a sannyasi, or a sudra, if he is knows the science of Krsna, he is to be accepted as guru. (Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 8.127) 1. 20 kiba varni, kiba srami, kiba varnasrama hina krsna tattva yei, sei acarya pravina asala katha chadi' bha ivarne ye kare aara asad-guru kari' ta 're vinasta purvapara Whatever caste one may belong to - including sudras and outcastes - if he is expert in the science of Krsna, he is to be accepted as an acarya. One who ignores this principle, and recognizes a guru only on the basis of social position, will accept a bogus guru as his master and thus be ruined. (Prema-Vivarta ) A real guru is an acarya of sambandha-jnana, knowledge of one's relationship with the Supreme Lord, Sri Krsna. 1. 21 vairagya-yug bhakti-rasam prayatnair apayayam mam anabhipsum andham krpambudhhir yam para-dumkha-dukhi sanatanam tam prabhum asrayami I surrender unto Sri Sanatana Goswami, the acarya of sambandha-jnana. He is an ocean of mercy and is always unhappy to see the sufferings of others. Although I was blind, in the darkness of ignorance, he gave me the light of transcendental knowledge. He taught me the real meaning of detachment and made me drink the highest nectarine rasa of divine love. (Vilapa -kusuma-jali, 6 ) Who is an acarya? 1. 22 upaniya tu yam ssyam vedam adhyapayed dvijam sankalpam sa-rahasyam ca tam acaryam pracaksate An acarya is one who not only confers the sacred thread upon his disciples, but trains them in sacrifice and teaches them the esoteric meanings of the Vedic scriptures, including the Upanisads. According to saintly authorities, such a spiritual master is an acarya. (Manu Samhita 2.140) 1. 23 acinoti yam sastrartham acare sthapayaty api svayam acarate yasma acaryas tena kirtitam An acarya is one who fully understands the conclusions of the revealed scriptures. His own behavior reflects his deep realization, and thus he is a living example of divine precept. He is therefore known as an acarya, ore one who teaches the meaning of the scriptures both by word and deed. (Vayu Purana ) 1. 24 yad yad acarati sresthas tat tad evetaro janam sa yat pramanam kurute lokas tad anuvartate Whatever acts a great man performs, common men follow. And whatever standards he sets by exemplary acts, the whole world pursues. (Bhagavad-gita 3.21) 1. 25 apane acare keha na kare pracara pracara karena keha, na karena acara acara pracara namera karaha dui karya tumi sarva-guru tumi jagatera arya Some practice, but do not preach; others preach but do not practice. One who is perfect, however, in both preaching and practice is the guru of the entire universe. You [Haridasa thakura] are a real jagad-guru, for you practice what you preach. (Caitanya Caritamrta Antya 4.102,103) 1. 26 apani acari' bhakti sikhamu sabare I [sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu] will teach bhakti to everyone by practicing it myself. (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 3.20) 1. 27 apani na kaile dharma sikhana na yaya If I do not do this Myself, then the principles of religion will not be taught. (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 3.21) The "Inconceivable Oneness and Difference" (acintya bhedabheda-tattva ) of guru, Vaisnava, and Krsna: 1. 28 acaryam mam vijaniyam navamanyeta karhicit na martya buddhyasuyeta sarva-deva mayo gurum [Krsna told Uddhava] "Know the acarya as My Self. I am the acarya . Never envy the acarya; never blaspheme him or consider him to be an ordinary man. Because the acarya channels the infinite, He is greater than the sum total of all the finite. Thus, he is more important than all the gods. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.17.27) 1. 29 vande gurun isa-bhaktan isam isavatarakan tat-prakasams ca tac chaktim krsna caitanya sanjnakam I worship the Supreme Lord Sri Caitanya, who appears in six features as: instructing and initiating gurus ; the Lord's devotees beginning with Srivasa hakura; His avataras such as Advaita Acarya; His prakasa, or full expansion (Nityananda Prabhu) and his sakti, or divine energy, (Gadadhara Pandita). (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.1) 1. 30 krsna, guru-dvaya, bhakta, avatara, prakasa sakti - ei chaya rupe karena vilasa The Supreme Lord appears in six features: 1) Sri Krsna; 2) the two kinds of gurus (diksa and siksa-guru: initiating and instructing gurus ); 3) bhaktas , devotees; 4) avataras, .different incarnations of Godhead; 5) prakasa, complete expansions or manifestations of His own Self; 6) sakti, His divine energy. In these six features the Supreme Lord enjoys his transcendental pastimes. (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.32) 1. 31 yadyapi amara guru - caitanyera dasa tathapi janiye ai tanhaa prakasa Although I know my guru is a servitor of Sri Caitanya, I know Him also as a full manifestation (prakasa ) of Godhead Himself. (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.44) The two kinds of instructing gurus: caitya guru (the guru in the heart) and mahanta guru (the personal guru). 1. 32 guru-krsna-rupa hana sastrera pramane guru-rupe krsna krpa karena bhakta-gane According to the evidence of sastra the guru is nondifferent from Krsna, because it is through the guru that Krsna bestows mercy upon His devotees. (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.45) 1. 33 siksa guruke ta' jani krsnera svarupa antaryami, bhakta-srestha - ei dui rupa One should know the instructing guru (siksa guru ) to be Krsna Himself. As guru, Krsna has two forms: the Supersoul and the best of devotees. (Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.47) 1. 34 jive saksat nahi, tate guru caittya-rupe siksa-guru haya krsna mahanta-svarupe Since one cannot directly see the Supersoul, Krsna appears before us as a liberated devotee. Such a siksa-guru is none other than Krsna Himself. 1. 35 naivopayanty apacitim kavayas tavesa brahmayusapi krtam rddha mudam smarantam yo'ntar bahis tanu-bhrtam asubham vidhunvann acarya-caittya vapusa sva-gatim vyanakti Uddhava said to Sri Krsna: "O my Lord! Transcendental poets and experts in spiritual science could not fully express their indebtedness to You, even if they were endowed with the lifetime of Brahma, for You appear in two features - externally as the acarya and internally as the Supersoul - to deliver the embodied living beings by revealing to them your devotional service and teaching them how to approach you on the path of divine love. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 11.29.6) By the mercy of Krsna, one obtains the mercy of guru. 1. 36 krsna yadi krpa karena kona bhagyavane guru antaryami-rupe sikhaya apane When a fortunate soul receives Krsna's mercy, the Lord personally instructs that person as the Supersoul within and as the guru from without. (Caitanya Caritamrta Madhya 22.47) Sri Guru gives systematic and scientific knowledge about the highest spiritual reality: Sri Vrndavana dhama. Gaudiya Vaisnavas,therefore, recognize Sri Guru as being nondifferent from Sripad Rupa Goswami. 1. 37 ajnana timirandhasya jnana-jana salakaya caksur unmilitam yena tasmai sri guruve namam I was born in the darkness of ignorance, but my gurudeva healed my blindness with the salve of divine knowledge. I offer my humble obeisances unto him. (Prema-bhakti-candrika - Narottama dasa thakura) 1. 38 sri caitanya mano 'bhistam sthapitam yena bhutale svayam rupam kada mahyam dadati sva-padantikam Srila Rupa Goswami has carried out the heart's desire of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu by establishing the Krsna consciousness movement all over the world. When will he give me shelter at his lotus feet? (Prema-bhakti-candrika - Narottama dasa thakura) 1. 39 sri guru carana padma, kevala bhakati sadma, vandon mu-i savadhana mate yanhara prasade bhai, e bhava tariya yai, krsna-prapti haya yanha ha'te guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete kariya aikya, ara na kariha mane asa sri-guru carane rati, ei se uttama gati, ye prasade pure sarva asa caksu dana dila yei, janme janme prabhu sei, divya-jnana hrde prakasita prema-bhakti yanja haite, avidya vinasa yate, vede gaya yanhara carita The holy feet of Sri Guru are the only way by which we can attain pure devotional service, for they are the abode of pure bhakti. I worship his lotus feet with great care and attention. By his mercy, one can cross over the ocean of material existence and attain the mercy of Krsna. Brothers: Make the words from his lotus mouth your heart's only treasure. Don't wish for anything more than this. Attachment to his lotus feet is the highest goal of life. By his mercy, all hopes are fulfilled. He has opened my eyes and filled my heart with transcendental knowledge. He is my lord, birth after birth. From him divine love emanates; by him, ignorance is destroyed. The Vedas sing his glories. (Prema-bhakti-candrika - Narottama dasa hakura) Sri Guru is krsna-sakti, the divine energy of Krsna, and is known as mukunda-prestha: most dear to the Lord. 1. 40 na dharmam nadharamam sruti-gana niruktam kila kuru vraje radha-krsna-pracura-paricaryam iha tanu saci-sunum nandisvara-pati-statve guru-varam mukunda-presthatve smara param ajasram nanu manam O mind! Shun all connection with Vedic piety and impiety. Always serve Sri Radha and Krsna in Vrndavana with all your heart, and know that Sri Caitanya, the son of Saci, is Sri Krsna, the son of Nanda. And always remember that gurudeva is mukunda-prestha, the dearmost servant of Sri Krsna. [NOTE: Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, in his purport to Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.46, translates the Anubhbhasya commentary of his gurudeva, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati hakura as follows: comments of Srila Bhaktivinoda hakura as follows: " As mentioned previously, a disciple should always respect the spiritual master as a manifestation of Krsna, but at the same time one should always remember that a spiritual master is never authorized to imitate the transcendental pastimes of the Lord. False spiritual masters pose themselves as identical with Sri Krsna in every respect to exploit the sentiments of their followers, but such impersonalists can only mislead their disciples, for their ultimate aim is to become one with the Lord. This is against the principles of the devotional cult. The real Vedic philosophy is acintya-bhedabheda-tattva, which establishes everything as simultaneously one with and different from the Personality of Godhead. Srila Raghunatha Dasa Goswami confirms that this is the real position of a bona fide spiritual master and says that one should always think of the spiritual master in terms of his intimate relations with Mukunda (Sri Krsna..)"] (Manam-Siksa 2, Srila Raghunatha Dasa Goswami) Sri Gurudeva is gaura-sakti, the divine energy of Sri Gauranga, and gaura-priyattama, the dearmost of Sri Gauranga. 1. 41 saksad haritvena samasta sastrair uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhim kintu prabhor yam priya eva tasya vande gurom sri--caranaravindam According to the verdict of all the revealed scriptures and saintly persons, gurudeva is to be honored as much as Sri Krsna Himself. Gurudeva is considered as such because he is the dearmost servant of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Sri Krsna Caitanya. I offer my humble obeisances unto the lotus feet of such a spiritual master. [NOTE: Quoting again the same Anubhasya commentary as in the previous verse, "Following in the footsteps of Srila Raghunatha Dasa Goswami and Srila Jiva Goswami, later acaryas like Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti hakura have confirmed the same truths. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti hakura confirms that all the revealed scriptures accept the spiritual master to be identical with the Personality of Godhead because he is a very dear and confidential servant of the Lord. Gaudiya Vaisnavas therefore worship Srila Gurudeva (the spiritual master) in the light of his being the servitor of the Personality of Godhead. In all the ancient literatures of devotional service, and in the more recent songs of Bhaktivinoda hakura and other unalloyed Vaisnavas, the spiritual master is considered either one of the confidential associates of Srimati Radharani or a manifested representative of Srila Nityananda Prabhu." ] (Gurvastakam, 7, Visvanatha Cakravarti thakura.) 1. 42 suddha-bhaktam sri-guro sri sivasya ca bhagavata saha abheda-drstim-tat -priyatama tvenaiva manyante Whenever the scriptures describe sri gurudeva and Lord Siva as being nondifferent from Sri Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, pure devotees (suddha-bhaktas ) consider that this is because of their being the most beloved of Sri Krsna. [NOTE: Again quoting the same commentary of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati hakura as translated by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prahupada in Caitanya Caritamrta Adi 1.46: "Jiva Goswami has clearly defined that a pure devotee's observation of the spiritual master and Lord Siva as one with the Personality of Godhead exists in their being very dear to the Lord, not identical with Him in all respects." (Bhakti-Sandarbha 216, Sri Jiva Goswami) One who becomes a guru in name only commits a great offense. 1. 43 gurur na sa syat sva-jano na sa syat pita na sa syaj janani na sa syat daivam na tat syan na patis ca sa syat na mocayed yam samupeta mrtyum One who cannot deliver his dependants from the path of repeated birth and death should never become a guru, a relative, a father, mother, demigod, or husband. (Srimad-Bhagavatam 5 .5.18) 1. 44 sei se parama bandhu, sei pita-mata sri-krsna-carane yei prema-bhakti-data sakala janme pita-mata sabe paya krsna guru nahi mile, bhajaha hiyaya Under ordinary circumstances one's own father and mother are worshipable. And yet in every lifetime one gets a father and mother. It is a far rarer thing to get guru and Krsna. Because gurudeva can bestow prema-bhakti to the lotus feet of Krsna upon those who have attained his mercy, gurudeva is the topmost father and mother and friend of every living soul. (Caitanya Mangala, Madhya-khanda ) Thus ends the first jewel of the Gaudiya-Kanthahara, part one, entitled Guru-Tattva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted June 6, 2004 Report Share Posted June 6, 2004 Just the same simple truth. I find it all here in Prabhupada's statement: "By the grace of Krsna one gets guru, by the grace of guru one gets Krsna." Not by the grace of the appointment of the previous devotee. Not by the grace of the votes of some governing body, but rather by the order of the transcendental system set up and run by the GRACE OF KRSNA. Another point is in this excerpt from a letter sent by Srila Prabhupada to Kirtananda 69-01-25 "Another point is that disciplic succession does not mean one has to be directly a disciple of a particular person. The conclusions which we have tried to explain in our Bhagavad-gita As It Is is the same as those conclusions of Arjuna. Arjuna accepted Krishna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and we also accept the same truth under the disciplic succession of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Things equal to the same thing are equal to one another. This is an axiomatic truth. So there is no difference of opinion of understanding Krishna between ourselves and Arjuna. Another example is that a tree has many branches, and you will find one leaf here and another leaf there. But if you take this leaf and the other leaf and you press them both, you will see that the taste is the same. The taste is the conclusion, and from the taste you can understand that both leaves are from the same tree." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 <blockquote><center><a href=http://www.gosai.com/chaitanya/saranagati/html/saraswati_fs.html>Assuming Responsibility of Being Guru </a> by Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura </center> "We have taken upon ourselves the responsibility of welcoming this grave charge. All the audience have accepted ordinary seats, I alone have been provided with a lofty seat. All are being told in effect - "Do have a look at a big animal from the Zoo-gardens. What arrogance! So foolish! So wicked! Have you ever seen such a big brute? Garlands of flowers have been put round his neck! What laudations! What bombastic long-drawn, and hyperbolic adjectives! And how complacently too he is listening to the praise of his own achievements, how intently, and with his own ears! He also evidently feels delighted in mind! Is he not acting in plain violation of the teaching of Mahaprabhu? Can such a big brute, so selfish and insolent, be ever reclaimed from brutishness? I happen to be one of the greatest of fools. No one offers me good advice on account of my arrogance. Inasmuch as nobody condescends to instruct me I placed my case before Mahaprabhu Himself. The thought occurred to me that I would make over the charge of myself to Him and see what He would advise me to do. Then Shri Chaitanyadeva said to me: "Whom-so-ever thou meet'st, instruct him regarding Krishna, By My command being Guru deliver this land; In this thou wilt not be obstructed by the current of the world; Thou wilt have My company once again at this place." In these verses is to be found the proper explanation of the apparent inconsistency noticed above. He whose only teaching is humility greater than that of a blade of grass, said- "By My command being Guru save this land!" - In this instance Mahaprabhu Himself has given the command. His command being "Perform the duty of the Guru, even as I do it Myself. Also convey this command to whom-so-ever you chance to meet." Chaitanyadeva says, "Tell them these very words, viz. By My command being Guru save this land Deliver the people from their foolishness." Now who-so-ever happens to hear these words would naturally protest with palms joined - "But I am really a great sinner, how can I be Guru? You are Godhead Himself, the Teacher of the world. You can be Guru." To this Mahaprabhu replies: "Do not practice the craft of a Guru for the purpose of injuring others through malice. Do not adopt the trade of a Guru in order to get immersed in the slough of this world. But if you can, indeed, be My guileless servant you will be endowed with My power--then you need not fear. I have no fear. My Gurudeva has heard this from his Gurudeva. And it is for this reason that my Gurudeva has accepted even such a great sinner as myself and has told me. "By My command being Guru save this land." It is only those who have never heard these words of Gaursundar who say "How odd! to listen to one's own praise!" While the Guru is instructing his disciple in the eleventh Skandha of the Bhagavatam what a great sin, in their opinion, is he not perpetuating! What is the Acharya to do when he has to explain the Shloka Acharya Mam Vijaniyat: "Never disregard the Acharya; never entertain the idea that the Acharya is your equal in any sense." These are the words of Shri Krishna Himself by which the jiva is to be benefited. Is the Guru to take himself off, to desert his seat--the seat of the Acharya--from which these words are to be explained? That office his Gurudeva has conferred on him. If he does not act up to its requirements he is doomed to perdition by reason of his offense against the holy Name in the shape of disrespect towards the Guru. He has to do it in spite of the fact that such procedure is apparently open to the charge of egoism. When the Guru imparts the mantram to the disciple should he not tell him by this mantram to worship the Guru? Should he say instead, "Give the Guru a few strokes of the shoe or the horse-whip?" The Guru is never to be decried. The Guru is the abode of all the gods. Should the Gurudeva abstain from communicating these words to his disciple while reading the Bhagavatam to him? "To him alone who possesses guileless spiritual devotion, similar to the transcendental devotion that is due to Krishna Himself, to the Gurudeva, the holy mysteries are manifested." Is the Gurudeva not to tell these things to his disciples? "Athau Gurupuja: the worship of the Guru has precedence over all others." The Guru is to be served just as Krishna is served. The Guru is to be worshiped in a particular way. Is the Guru to desert his seat without telling all these things to the disciple? In the angle there is always the defect in the shape of absence of the fullness, the evenness of level, of 180 degrees or of 360 degrees. But in the plain surface, in 360 degrees, there is no such defect. That in the emancipated state no defect is possible, this simple truth ordinary foolish people entirely fail to grasp. As the saying goes, "having started on the dance it is no use to draw close the veil." I am doing the duty of the Guru, but if I preach that no one should shout "Jai" to me, that is to say, if I say in a round about way, "sing Jai to me," it would be nothing short of duplicity. Our Gurudeva has not taught us such insincerity. Mahaprabhu has not taught such insincerity. I have to serve God in the straightforward way. The word of God has come down to the Gurudeva; I have to obey it in all sincerity. I will not disrespect the Guru at the instance of any foolish or malicious sectarians. Especially as Shri Gurudeva has directed me saying, "By My command being Guru save this land." This command has my Gurudeva preached. My Gurudeva in his turn has conveyed the command to me. I will not be guilty of any insincerity in carrying out that command. In this matter I will not accept the ideal of ignorant, insincere, pseudo-ascetic sectarianism. I will not learn insincerity. The worldly-minded, the malicious, the pseudo- renunciationists, the selfish cannot understand how the devotees of God, spurning at everything of this world by command of God, never, not even for a second, deviate from the service of God through all the twenty-four hours. Hypocritical sectarians, pseudo-Vaishnava sects, those sects that cherish internally the longing for earthly fame, naturally enough think "what a shame it is for one to listen to the eulogies of disciples occupying the seat of the Guru." But every Vaishnava regards every one of the Vaishnavas as the object of his veneration. When Thakur Haridas exhibits the attitude of humility Mahaprabhu says - "You are the greatest of the world, the crestjewel of the world. Be agreeable, let us have our meal together." He carried in His arms the body of Thakur Haridas which is eternally existent, self-conscious and full of spiritual bliss. In the community that follows Srila Rupa, the qualities of desiring no honor for oneself and of readiness to duly honor others are fully present. Those who detect any disparity are, like the owl, blind while the sun shines. They commit an offense by such conduct. If I disobey the law which has come down to me through the chain of preceptorial succession, the offense due to omission to carry out the command of the Guru will sever me from the lotus-feet of Shri Gurudeva. If in order to carry out the command of the Vaishnava Guru I have to be arrogant, to be brutish, to suffer eternal perdition, I am prepared to welcome such eternal damnation and even sign a pact to that effect. I will not listen to the words of other malicious persons in lieu of the command of the Gurudeva. I will dissipate with indomitable courage and conviction the currents of thought of all the rest of the world, relying on the strength derived from the lotus feet of Shri Gurudeva. I confess to this arrogance. By sprinkling a particle of the pollen of the lotus-feet of my Preceptor crores of people like you will be saved. There is no such learning in this world, no such sound reasoning in all the fourteen worlds, in no man-gods, that can weigh more than a solitary particle of the dust of the lotus-feet of my Gurudeva. Gurudeva in whom I have implicit trust can never spite me. I am by no means prepared to listen to the words of any one who wants to hurt me or to accept such a malicious person as my preceptor. Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura </blockquote> That he wrote this is amazing; it is so creative. But if he simply spoke it, then my mind cannot possibly imagine such genius. "Upon my order", I think we see the allusion Srila Prabhupada uses later in his talks with his senior disciples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Thank you for that, gHari prabhu. Please tell us where you found it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 On your order gHari-one down two to go. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Especially instructful for those that like to criticize Prabhupada's disciples for taking on this responsibility. Some prematurely perhaps and some not fit but in principle it stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Theist, Both leaves are on the tree, yet perhaps on different branches (i.e. Krsna and Caitanya). Therefore the leaves taste the same. I cannot derive the same meaning from this quote or the signature that you do. That is, the leaves are affixed to the tree, although not necessarily to the same particular branch. One sprouts from the Lord Caitanya branch and the other sprouts from the Lord Krsna branch, but both bloom on the Syamasundara tree. We do not conclude that a leave need not sprout from any branch of the tree in order to have the same taste. gHari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 I don't understand your objection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted June 7, 2004 Report Share Posted June 7, 2004 Why does he say it? What's all that stuff about leaves and trees? To be an NHL hockey player does not mean that one must be a member of any particular team. Not everyone need be a Calgary Flame to be an NHL player. He can be on the Tampa squad and still be considered an NHL player. He can still win the Stanley Cup, even if that will break the hearts of all Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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