krsna Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 ...into pure Krsna Consciousness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 did you really? if you did, that would at least prove you sincere and earn you a lot of respect from other devotees - but even that respect is not automatic, as it requires the other devotees to be advanced enough to appreciate such service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Afterall what is the value of that life you put at risk? Did you really risk so much that now Krsna is indebted to you? Maybe, I can't say. But there seems an obvious danger in taken the Lord's grace for granted. Attainment of Krsna consciousness is not like earning a guarunteed pension for years of service. That might be heaven but not Goloka. How bad do you want to love Krsna? That has to be cultivated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 ...into pure Krsna Consciousness? no one can tell to you if you have come in pure krsna consciousness.. when you'll be pure you will know it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krsna Posted July 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 I don't want respect from others. All i want is Krsna's mercy:and so I dedicated a few years 'preaching'-i.e.,distributing books on the streets of Kali-yuga,collecting,etc. But the point is :taking a risk for Krsna's pleasure. He is pleased to see His devotees books distributed to His conditioned souls. And I risked life and limb so that a few souls could come in contact with Srila prabhupada's words of Vedic Truth. Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 such service as yours is certainly very respectable. Hare Krishna! /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 I sometimes can't tell when you are speking from personal experience or raising topical question to inspire conversation and introspection. A question can always be raised on our motive for selling books, opening temples etc. Safer position may be to assume we never offered anything to Krsna due to our lack of loving motivation and depend on Krsna to save us anyway by bestowing that love for Him onto us. But I suspect all of you who gave so much(purely motivated or not) in those formation days of the Hare Krsna movement here in the West don't even have the slightest clue of the glory that awaits you. I know the smiling glance of His Divine Grace was (and is) upon you. That glance lacking which the whole material dimention must be considered vacant and hellish is surely upon you. Shadow Dweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 "A question can always be raised on our motive for selling books, opening temples etc." I did it all for fun. it felt good, and it felt right to serve Krishna /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 Would have done it if it felt bad and wasn't fun but still pleased Krsna? The cross of Christ, the trials of Prahlada, the abuse of Jagai & Madai come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 well, I'm certainly not that advanced... and it was not all peaches and cream either. but even when things got difficult and austere (like when your towel freeze as you take your morning shower) it felt like the right thing to do. I would do it all over again in a heartbeat (with a few corrections to my own behavior) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Sounds like New Vrndaban in the very early 70's. Were you there? Chakradari used to tell me stories of breaking the ice to take a morning bath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krsna Posted July 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu wanted His followers to move all over the world to preach in every town and village. In the Caitanya-sampradaya those who strictly follow the principles of Lord Caitanya must travel all over the world to preach the message of Lord Caitanya, which is the same as preaching the words of Krsna--Bhagavad-gita--and Srimad-Bhagavatam. The more the devotees preach the principles of krsna-katha, the more people throughout the world will benefit. Devotees like the great sage Narada, who travel all over to preach, are called gosthanandi. Narada Muni is always wandering throughout the universe just to create different types of devotees. Narada even made a hunter a devotee. He also made Dhruva Maharaja and Prahlada devotees. Actually, all devotees are indebted to the great sage Narada, for he has wandered both in heaven and in hell. A devotee of the Lord is not even afraid of hell. He goes to preach the glories of the Lord everywhere--even in hell--because there is no distinction between heaven and hell for a devotee. Srimad-Bhagavatam 4:30:37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 "Sounds like New Vrndaban in the very early 70's" my share of frozen towels was received in Poland, in late 70's and early 80's. I would meditate on the verse: "Austerity is the wealth of a brahmana" every morning. Since I'm a kshatriya by nature I never liked it, but had to do it to give a good example for other devotees /images/graemlins/smile.gif Nowadays, whenever I take a shower, I thank Lord Krishna for the warm water He is kindly providing. This is the essence: Always remember Krishna! /images/graemlins/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 Please accept my humble and respectful obeisances, prabhu! All glories to His Divine Grace. On this path, all sacrifices result in permanent gain. There is no loss possible with bhakti, however it may appear to us at times. Whatever we somehow endure is happening for the sole purpose of bringing about our full surrender through absolute humility. One sentence of Srila Prabhupada's from the "Nectar of Instruction" [p.36] often encourages my fallen soul, "Devotional service is so pure and perfect that once having begun, one is forcibly dragged to ultimate success." Purity is not ever for ourselves to claim. It is the property of the one to whom we are attached as devotees, devotional service Herself. She cannot be earned or bought, even by Krsna. Actually, it's the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulapavana Posted July 7, 2004 Report Share Posted July 7, 2004 "Devotional service is so pure and perfect that once having begun, one is forcibly dragged to ultimate success." thank you for this quote, prabhu. I do feel dragged towards deeper and deeper waters of bhakti by an outside force. I'm even trying to help by not resisting... /images/graemlins/smile.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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