Tarun Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 smRty avakAza doSa-prasanga iti cet na anya smRty anavakAza-doSaprasanAt ||2|1|1|| Kapila philosophy; no sky, applicative want, redundancy, non-room; fault; result; thus, if; not other; smRti-PurANas; spaceless; due to result 137) If it b objected that Kapila SmRti will find no scope under VedAnta interpretation, we say no: For under it there would result fault of want scope for ther SmRtis (such as Manu's). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted August 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 itareSAn cAnupalabdheH of others (points mentioned in Sankhya-vAd) and due to non-perception, not found in Vedas 138) other pronouncements taught in Sankhya r also not found in Veda, hence its not totally authoritative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted August 31, 2004 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 note: for 2.1.2, after sandhi separation, it's itareSAm not itareSAn =========== etena yogaH praty uktaH by this (SAnkhya SmRti refutation); yoga doctrine as to creation; against spoken = has been refuted 139) On similar grounds, by above SAnkhya refutation, Yoga-smRti is also understood to have been refuted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2004 na vilaxaNatvAd asya tathA tvac ca zabdAt not from character difference; of that, of Veda; suchness, eternity, authority; and from Word, from Scripture 140) Veda is not unauthoritative (as Sankhya &c.) due to its having distinct features altogether, and because its forever is established from WORD. Rubber Soul 1965-66 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 7, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2004 abhimAni vyapadezas tu vizeSAnugatibhyAm elements' presiding Deity; denoting, but, on account of; from entering Words fire etc. refer to devas for epithet Deva is mentioned there + statement "They entered further proves personality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2004 dRzyate tu is seen (passive voice); from subtle to gross, not vice-versa = dialectic materialism -> where many including Huey Newton went/go wrong But/only it is seen (something totally differing from another may give rise to, be material cause of that thing/result. "It won't b the water but the FIRE next time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 asad iti cet, na, pratiSedha mAtratvAt nothing, non-existing, absolute zero; thus if not; denial,prohibition; because, merely 143) If it b objected: (This Material) World is then positively unreal, we say no, for in previous SUtra there was merely denial/negation of sameness of nature betwixt cause & effect, NOT that 2 substantially differ. Obviously sans previous bonafide vaiSNav acarya's assistance no one can properly understand VedAnta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 apitau tadvat prasangAd asamanjasam at pralaya time (universal dissolution - re-absorption); like unto that (effect), cause, as effect, would b re-absorbed in it during pralaya; from consequences, inappropriate 144) If Brahman is universe's material cause, then during pralaya, when world is re-absorbed within Him, Brahman would experience same consequences as world (tainted with all its defects). Thus VedAnta would become inappropriate. =============== ViSnU's Recycling 4ever, ViSNu's Recycling 4ever "Living is easy with eyes closed, not understanding all we c..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2004 na tu dRSTAnta bhAvAt 145) not so/but; examples, instances, visuals; from existence Yet this is NOT so; many examples illustrate this effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted October 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2004 "The fault u find may b your own." svapaxe doSAc ca in own side, in Sankhya's own theory; and from fault, objection Points raised by Sankhya to VedAnta hold equal weight as Sankhya theory itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 4, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2004 tarka pratiSThAnAd apy anyathAnumeyam iti ced evamapyanir moxa prasangaH ratiocination, reasoning; from zero fixity or finality too; contrary, otherwise inferrable; thus if thus, then too; emancipation proclamation, result 147) If it b said: "Reasoning is endless" = it is always possible to infer any opposite truth, we say "no", for then undesireable end would follow: no final release or liberation either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2004 etena ziSTA parigrahA api vyAkhyAtAH by this (so-called reasoning); remaining systems: reductionist, deductionist...; Vedically non-standard; also analized +/or refuted 148) By this (all) other vedically incongruous methods r surpassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 8, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2004 bhoktrA patter avibhAgaz cet syAl lokavat with jIva = enjoyer; from becoming; sans distinction; if it may be; as in daily life 149) If Brahman b world's material cause, then creation would b oneness, id est, nondistinct, sans variety + Enjoyer = JIva would equal, b same as Supreme Lord. To this is replied: it need no b so, ordinary life = common experience as proof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 19, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 tad ananyatvam ArambhaNa zabdAdibhyaH ergo = from that (world-causing Brahman); identity, non-difference; ??? 150) ChandogyopaniSad beginning with ArambhaNa establishes oneness btwixt Brahman & Vizva = material creation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 bhAve copalabdheH in existence, effect; and due to/in perception Moreover, in effect we can c cause too. If u'v seen the Son, u'v seen the Father. What KRSNa says, guru will also say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted November 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 sattvAc cAparasya from maintenance, existence; and of b4, posterior, of effect already present within cause In any seed latently exist root, stem, leaf, bud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 3, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2004 asat vyapadezAn neti cen na dharmAntareNa vAkya-zesAt temporal, unsubstantial; from distinction; not thus if not; by another attribute/nature; from complementary passage 153) If it b said effect doesn't exist in cause post dissolution because there is text saying it's insubstantial, we reply 'not so', for 'asat' refers to effect's other aspect & doesn't necessarily mean sans endurance, as might appear from text's passage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 25, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2004 yuktez zabdAntarAc ca from reason; from other Vedas too 154) Both being + non-being (2b or not 2b) r things' attributes, as proved by reason + other Vedic texts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 26, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2004 paTavac ca = as clothpiece, and Plus as fabric differs NOT from its threads, so effect differs NOT from its cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 yathA ca prANAdi as, and, vital winds (prANa, apAna, vyAna, samAna, udAna) 156) And just as life airs r one chief air's modifications, so too, effect differs not from its cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted December 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2004 itara vyapadezAddhitAkaraNAdi doSa prasaktiH || of others; from designation, uncreative, fault, result 157) If alternate be held that jIva creates universe, then creation would b liable to objection: jIva illogically, intentionally creates such temporary, miserable atmosphere unbeneficial to itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted January 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 AdhikaM tu bheda nirdesAt = greater than, but difference, from pointing out 158) But Brahman is greater than jIva, because scriptures distinguish Him from jIva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted January 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2005 azmAdivac ca tad anupapattiH 159) And as stones etc r not universal creators, so jIvas, equally finite, have no power to create worlds, 4 it's impossible that any jIva could manifest planets, just as it's impossible 4 iron, wood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted January 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2005 upasaMhAra darzanAn neti cet xIra-vaddhi closure, completion, terminating; from sight not, thus if, milk-like 160) If it b said jIva is creator, seeing him completing so many acts, NO, as is case with milk. Milk production's not cow's volution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarun Posted January 26, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2005 devAdivad iti (api) loke like demigods et al (vat 6th case force), thus/too, in world God, though invisible, is this world’s Creator. Similarly, demigods, though invisible, do visible work (rain, wind) on this plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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