kailasa Posted October 18, 2004 Report Share Posted October 18, 2004 THE BEAST According to "Revelation" - the satan will be embodied on the Earth and will start to pursue the certain religion ("woman") - 12.5 " And she brogth forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod iron ", 12.13 "And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. That is religion, carrying the Messiah - described in revelation two times as we already gave citations. This religion ("woman") - " Will disappear in desert for 1260 days in a place given by the God ". " 1260 days ", it as time which is preached " with two candlesticks, two olives, before the God of the earth ". These two religions ("two olives")- - Will be destroyed by "beast" (atheism), - Later they will revive - Will ascend on the sky (perfection or the purpose of religion achieve). I.e. certain time (1260 days) will be preached with two religions. And the third religion or " the wife who bears in itself the baby " will be latent this time (1260 days). And when the baby will be given birth - a dragon or a devil " in strong fury will be hunts for "wife". And after he cannot destroy her, will grow furious - " And the dragon was wroth with the woman. and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." That is criterion of the validity of religion here- 1. Observance of precepts (not only 10 precepts, but sense itself sastra) 2. Certificates on a basis sastra The description of "birth" of the baby is interesting - 12.2 " And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered " That is occurrence of the Messiah is painful for church or concrete religion. [Gaudiya parampara] The dragon hunting on the wife " about seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns " is a today's century Kali as a whole. Seven heads it " seven slyness about which spoke Solomon " (FA), and ten horns this infringement of ten precepts (FA). Seven wreaths mean - " where works and efforts " - (FA) the devil receives a victory. " The tail he (dragon) has carried away a third part of stars from the sky " is a third part of people began not are religious or the third part of believers has fallen in atheism. The dragon is described - " about seven by heads and ten horns and seven crowns " The beast is described - " about seven by heads and ten horns, on heads his ten crowns " It is possible to see that "beast" it almost too the description of the same dragon from the previous chapters. The dragon has fallen from heavens and has appear from the sea - " From the sea " means from " the the wordly sea [material life]" (FA) 13.4 " Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? " To whom have bowed? - technologies. To the reason of a devil destroying all elements. As it is described in "Revelation". Have bowed to an atheistic civilization. And who can battle to him? EVERYONE see disruptiveness and an inaccuracy of that now occurs! This "civilization" in according with "Revelation" will destroy gradually in general all! For "convenience" we sell soul to a devil, for a sensual life. For washing machines, for set of atheistic ideas, for a cancellation of concept of "sin", for a cancellation of "barbarous" representations (to what barbarian can today's scope of violence will dream?). 13.7 " And it was been given into him to make war with saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindress, and tongues, and nations. " That is all world is involved (or will be involved) in this devil activity. 13.9 " If any man have ear, let him hear " Obviously that the sin and authority of this century of a satan operate everywhere. As who has ear, can understand that the satan has won (will win) all and will establish the authority above all. FALSE PROPHET So, the first beast has appear and further the second beast or false prophet comes - 13.11" And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon " " Like a lamb"!! "Lamb" it everywhere in "Revelation" the religious character! " Like a lamb" means similar to religion. " Like a lamb" it is pseudo- religiousness. " Two horns like a lamb it is two pseudo- religions, made by a dragon or an beast. These are former " two candlesticks " (two olives) , but already defeated by an beast. 11.7 " And when they shall have finised their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomles pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them" Two religions "will be lost" and instead of them will appear (has come the beast which be similar the lamb). "He appear from a terrestrial, nasty life and has similar lamb horns, what with a skin of a sheep to cover terrible the hidden wolf... " (FA) Besides pseudo religiousness proceeds from quite terrestrial life - from ordinary terrestrial sinfulness. 11.9 " And they of the people and kindrds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves. " But "bodies" or the external form will be left and " and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves". That is the external form of these two religions will remain. Thus murder by "beast" of two churches quite connect with occurrence false prophet . Which " had two horns similar lamb ". The death of two religions is nominal religions or levelling of religion. 11.10" And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth." Certainly, religion it so is not natural! Therefore please soul material "freedom". Obviously that frameworks of religion in a society more and more also are more washed away. "Religion" now is more and more and assumes a material life more. For example Jesus Christ did not encourage a certain stupid work - " Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns... ", but what many so-called "Christians" preach? 11.11" And after three days and a half the Spirit of a life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. " After revival of religion again, people will be frightened. As with revival of religion they will feel fear for the material life. Despite of improbable scales death rate among people for last hundred years from a various kind of wars, accidents. Despite of occurrence of new mass diseases, political reprisals and other (according to some information average life expectancy of people now, including all aborting children - 20 years of a life). Despite of all this, the satan continues to frighten the inhabitant - of "dangerous religions ". True religion in fact prevents a devil to reap the crop! 13.7 " And it was given unto him (beast) to make war with saints and to overcome them... " After this victory of the first beast above saints, occurrence of the second beast with two lamb horns is described (13.11) - 13.12" And he (false prophet ) exerciseth all the power on the first beast before him (atheism), and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast (atheism), whose deadly wound was healed. " I.e. such false- religion or false prophet authorizes pseudo- religions. She encourages and eventually forces to act on a hand to materialists. 13.16" And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to recive in their hand, or in their foreheads:" (FА) - " also will try to impose at all a tracing of a fatal name and devil on the RIGHT hands for suppression of making right and kind has put... " 13.16"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" That is it is impossible will buy sell without a sin (as a variant). Pseudo- religiousness will make sinful all. Pseudo- religiousness as will learn all to worship the first beast (to a century Kali or to atheism - materialism) which - 13.13 "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of man, ". Now it is a lot of such "miracles" and obviously that it now very strong antireligious argument for anyone. Obviously that for the overwhelming majority of people development of " a modern civilization " is basic argument! And such "development" is the basic criterion and meaning of the life. Therefore all of us as fools follow a satan destroying all around. We can even understand and many understand that there are bad things, but in absence of real religion, anybody and does not know what to do! The modern moron will go better and will watch TV than will think once again. People simply deceive, distributing conjectures about "evolution" and conjectures about " ancient natives ". Thus the satan strengthens all to belief that " all develops "! The general context will be what to live outside of "beast" now very difficultly. The satan makes a certain social appendage of a society of religion. It is obvious idea of a satan - to supervise all world. The computer models dreams. With the help of fertilizers the poisoned products are raised. They are similar on true, but are poisoned and consequently people much ill and die from a cancer of different parts of a body. In absence of religion how many it is already created Mirages? - communism, solipsism, tehnology, humanism (it perhaps the most hypocritical as the greater disruptiveness, than last hundred years of "humanism", hardly we can find in a history). A Mirage of a light and heroic techno of the future. A Mirage of a victory of a science, a Mirage of peace atom. Infinite Mirages of political, economic and cultural transformations of a society which do not change anything. Which CAN not change anything. Infinite Mirages of a relative, unsteady science. "666" it can mean infinity in a general sense, in any case the satan was already mentioned as king of a chasm. Chasm this following to pragmatical and texnocratic principles. The chasm is infinity of a method of ascending knowledge (as Ravana). Chasm it as aspiration to satisfy feeling. Such aspiration is indefinite and as conducts in a chasm (hell). The chasm as impersonalism - soul also is the God. It also is the main idea of a material world or a satan. SEVEN VIAL ANGER OF THE GOD "Vital" in this case means that is already filled, that already has quite ripened. And the obvious description of this - - " Severe and disgusting purulent wounds having outlines of an animal " (symbol), (1) - Death of all in the sea (2), - A poisoning of all sources of waters (3), - Intolerable heat the sun (4), - And the material empire became gloomy (5), - A drought (6) but it is possible also some other symbol The seventh vital (last vital of patience?) there is an important point in revelation- 16.17" And the seventh angel has poured out his vital on air; and there came a great voice out of temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done." The seventh vital is described as the end of "Babylon" (a civilization of materialism). 14.8 "... Babylon, is fallen, is fallen great city... " 16.19" And the great city was divided into three parts... " After "earthquake" Babylon disappears or will divide on three parts. It seems to me that Babylon will divide on three religions that is quite logical. But Babylon - a material civilization of a sin, will disappear. " And a mighty angel has took up a stone like to the great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying - Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." That is disappearance of a false civilization will be prompt. Further it is described harlot all peoples - " woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus". All today's civilization (and her future expansion) is created on destruction of church. "Fornication" it can matter a different sort the compromise of religion with a material life as. After falling Babylon, blood sacred and all killed on the ground will be found. All murder of sacred and other people on what so-called "progress" has been constructed becomes obvious. ARRIVAL OF THE HORSEMAN 19.11" And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war." " Heaven opened " is a symbol of a spiritual world. The horseman on a white horse a symbol of the winner. "Faithful" in sanscrit is "Bhakti" and "True" is "Vedanta". 19.12 "His eyes were as flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself." "Crowns" this set of the previous victories and set of the previous spiritual feats. " Eyes were as flame of fire " means in interpretation that this fire educates one, and others burn " (FA). 19.13"... his name is called The Word of God " Word of God is the preacher, it is obvious that not the God. 19.15 " And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth and wrath of Almighty God "Sword" is a symbol of the sermon. " Rod of iron " is a symbol of precepts or that adjusts a life of all. His sermon as accelerates insults of atheists on religion and thus " and he treadeth and wrath of Almighty God ". 19.16" And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." On "vesture" the name of the God and as here there is a context of is written that He is expansion of the God (in this case in aspect of greatness of the God.) Most likely usually this place should be interpreted as arrival of the Lord and somewhat it so, but it is arrival of the Lord on behalf of the representative of the God. After the sixth vital - 16.12 "And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Eu-phra'tes; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared." Kings east? After the sixth vital atheists will collect all forces - 16.13 - 14 " And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 16.16 And he gathered them together into place called in the Hebrew tongue Ar-ma-ged'don." GREAT FIGHT AND THOUSAND- YEAR EMPIRE And then battle "will begin" - 11.15 " And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever." 11.18 "And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give revard unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and greath; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." And during this "moment" the heavenly army will move forward - 14.7 " Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the foutains of waters." 15.3 "... Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints." 15.4 " Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glory thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest." ... 17.14" These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithfull." 19.20" And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." 20.1 " And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 20.2 And He laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years [10 000]" "Devil" in this context is a this century of a sin or atheism and he will be held down on "thousand" years. "One thousand years to understand not as such quantity of years more reasonably, but to count them for many years. " (FA) 20.4-20.5 " And I saw thrones. and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the best, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years." In this " one thousand years " will be born sacred and believing in the God. The others will not be born at this time - 20.5 " But the rest of the dead lived not again untill the thousand years were finised. this is the first rescurrection." 20.6 " It blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priest of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. " Everyone who will live this one "thousand" years, will receive rescue. "The second death hath no power " - i.e. or they will not be on terrible court, or they there will be justified. One thousand years on the earth there will be a just religious empire. Obviously that here it is not spoken about a final victory here again it is not spoken about an eternal spiritual empire. THE END OF THE THOUSAND-YEAR EMPIRE 20.7 "And when the thousand years are expired, satan shall be loosed out of his prison. " After " thousand years " spiritual empire (Golden Age), the this century of materialists or a material life of this epoch will proceed. Obviously that the thousand- year empire is the local period. Though in some places which were earlier in revelation it it is described as eternal. Thousand- year empire the end of a material life will be simple for one, therefore it is described as eternal, but from the material point of view it is the local period. 20.8 " Also shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Ma'gog. to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea." "... the four quarters of the earth " - all occurs on the earth or in a material world. Obviously that the thousand- year period it not an eternal spiritual empire in a direct context. " As sea sand " - is a lot of. 20.9 " And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them." It actually difficult enough moment. " On breadth of the earth" can specify and the supreme planets (paradise). It is obvious, that " the thousand- year empire " is the local period. If was present in view of what at the end of this period there will be a certain short revolt and rescue from the God and court the designation " one thousand years ", would lose sense is then direct at once. " One thousand years " Golden Age according to information is 10000 from his beginning. Then this epoch heat to proceed and will go not one hundred thousand years. At the end of an epoch all and everyone will be destroyed by own activity and the new cycle of a life will begin. It is possible to admit certainly that such destruction (" and fire came down from God ") and the court will take place - - After the end of the Golden Age (but it is not logical) - After the end Kali yuga (epoch) - After the end of one of the more big cycles - After the end of a life of the universe Thus there are four variants - " One thousand years " plus small period. - " One thousand years " plus 300000 - the end Kali yuga - " One thousand years " plus millions - " One thousand years plus billions - the end of a life of the universe I think that most likely the fourth variant. The life on the highest paradise planets comes to an end, when the life of all universe comes to an end. Anyhow it is possible to leave this point open. 20.10" And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Here it is not told about all people, but only a devil, an beast and false prophet will be forever thrown in a hell [eternal stay in material world]. TERRIBLE COURT 20.11" And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them." It can be the direct creator of a material world - Lord Brahma. "and there was found no place for them " all creation in His authority can be interpreted as The one who has created a material world, i.e. Or "and there was found no place for them " can mean infinity of creation (and spiritual), in this case it specifies the God. Basically even acceptance of both contexts simultaneously, quite correctly. 20.12" And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." "... according to their works. " - court on set of acts, on karma. 20.14-15 " And death and a hell were cast into the lake fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Everyone who are not written down in the book of a life, have been thrown back in a material world. Here it is not told that are thrown in lake (a hell or a material world) forever. A satan it has been told has been thrown forever, but about the others of it it is not told on the fact. Essence of this court still as that the Lord is absolute if on court the Lord EVERYONE would be released was, it is even simple because have seen Him. Nevertheless as who that resists to the Lord thus he HAS OPPORTUNITY to continue a material life so much, how many the person of that wants also set of acts and there is an essence of desires of the person. Therefore will go court, they again will continue a life in a material world. Undoubtedly that any place of a material world is a hell, in comparison with an spiritual world. It is court some demigod [brahma], not Lord Himself. 21.1 " I Also have seen the new heaven and the new earth: for the first heaven and first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. They come back in an spiritual world- 21.2 " And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from the God out of heaven, prepared as the bride adorned for her husband. " Here it is spoken that the temple descends from the God. Though in the other place further it is told - " I make all new ", thus "Revelation" as specifies elements of unity of the son of the God with Lord and elements of difference. " I make all new " - as does not specify that the concrete planet the ground in spiritual will be transformed. "... coming down from the God " - too most. 21.10 " And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and sheved me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, " The description of spiritual "city" completely symbolicalally also specifies on - " perfection of an spiritual world " with what we completely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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