Guest guest Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 If you ask a pure devotee if he is pure devotee and guru he will answer NO! if you ask a non pure devotee if he is a pure devotee and guru he will answer NO! so? how we can found a pure devotee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Krsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Seems nobody can give a proper answer to this question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 If he say "yes I experience directly Krishna" = he is not a pure devotee. But if he is a pure devotee he will say "no I dont experience directly lord Krishna"?, out of humbleness, but he will beguin to tell lies?. Same devotee understand my question? How will be the reaction of a real pure devotee in front of the question: You experience directly Lord Krishna? and if he say: yes Sir, I experience directly. Can we trust him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 If we deserve, we will know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 What you means by "if you deserve"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shambu Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 .....it doesn't make no sense to ask a pure devotee and or guru if he's a pure devotee and / or a guru, or to ask an impure devotee or a fake guru if he is a pure devotee and / or a guru, since the answer will probably be NO! But I understand your point and dillemma. Actually I know one who is accepted by many to be a pure devotee and guru, who is constantly advocating himself to be a pure devotee and guru and even an acharya! Is that funny! Prabhupada also was asked the question if he was seeing Krsna, and he closed his eyes and said: "Yes! 24 hours a day...." I think the real criterion is not what a certain person speaks, since words can be delusive. The real criterion is what you FEEL in someone's association. When you are in the association of a real holy 100% Krsna-conscious realized person, YOU are bound to experience Krsna directly, whether you "deserve" it or not. The only question here is whether you deserve his association or can practically bear it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 In same way you try to say that is our direct experience or our heart who tell us? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted December 5, 2004 Report Share Posted December 5, 2004 Sincerity would be a good start. That will encompass humility, desire, detachment, and so many things. The pure devotee will only give you what God wants you to receive; he is the pure servant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2004 Report Share Posted December 6, 2004 You say that the only way to know if a person is a pure devotee is our heart, our feellings, there are same criptural basis for this afirmation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHari Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 This is a term we've heard volleyed about over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 How does it feel Pankaja? /images/graemlins/wink.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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