Some lesson for babajis

[kailasa]

Acarya it is not necessary to know a Sanskrit. Acarya it is not necessary to write separate sastra. Acarya KNOWS sense sastras. He compiles sastra in order that TO INITIATE in the certain mood of people. Mission acarya is those.

 

Sastras very big also are designed for SET of moods. And acarya it is the one who establishes CERTAIN mission. The spiritual organization it not temples (but they some atribute), false "acaryas", fallen sanyasis /images/graemlins/smile.gif and societys exaltation pradjalpa mans - raganugas, isthagosthis and VNN. /images/graemlins/smile.gif)) The spiritual organization is the certain METHODS and CONCEPTS of a spiritual life.

 

Srila Prabhupada preaches all rasas. He preaches sambhoga as. But the PRIME target He has established as MOOD LORD CAITANYA - top of all spiritual life.

 

The some people can find His comment on Vaikuntha rasas in Srila Prabhupada's books. Others can find Srila Prabhupada's comment on sambhoga Krishna lila. But the prime target is a mood or dialogue with Lord Caitanya - GAURA VANI. All sastra Shrila Prabhupada's conducts to THIS. He takes from works of others acaryas only THAT CONDUCTS IN THIS MOOD. From Rupa Gosvami, Bhaktivinoda, Narottama, Srila Bhaktisidhanta Thakur. THIS means ACARYA.

 

Sastra is not the textbook of arithmetics. It is much more difficult and harmonious thing. What to understand sastra, he should be follow sastra, how it is explained in BG. If the person does not follow the beginning as he will understand top of all sastra? It is possible to read Gosvamis, but not following lectures acarya, what we there shall understand?!

 

Vipralambha Gaura lila it completely self-sufficient and primary emotion from which it is shown both spiritual and a material worlds -

 

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" The loving affairs of Sri Radha and Krsna are transcendental manifestations of the Lord's internal pleasure-giving potency. Although Radha and Krsna are one in Their identity, They separated Themselves eternally. Now these two transcendental identities have again united, in the form of Sri Krsna Caitanya. I bow down to Him, who has manifested Himself with the sentiment and complexion of Srimate Radharani although He is Krsna Himself. " (CC)

 

" Radha and Krsna are one, and when Krsna desires to enjoy pleasure, He manifests Himself as Radharani. The spiritual exchange of love between Radha and Krsna is the actual display of the internal pleasure potency of Krsna. Although we speak of "when" Krsna desires, just when He did desire we cannot say. We only speak in this way because in conditional life we take it that everything has a beginning; however, in the absolute or spiritual life there is neither beginning nor end. Yet in order to understand that Radha and Krsna are one and that They also become divided, the question “ When? ” automatically comes to mind. When Krsna desired to enjoy His pleasure potency, He manifested Himself in the separate form of Radharani, and when He wanted to understand Himself through the agency of Radha, He united with Radharani, and that unification is called Lord Caitanya. " (CC purp)

 

" I worship Govinda, the primeval Lord, residing in His own realm, Goloka, with Radha, resembling His own spiritual figure, the embodiment of the ecstatic potency possessed of the sixty-four artistic activities, in the company of Her confidantes [sakhes], embodiments of the extensions of Her bodily form, permeated and vitalized by His ever-blissful spiritual rasa.

 

PURPORT

Although the Lord Absolute and His potency are one and the self-same existence, still They exist eternally as separate entities, as Radha and Krsna. " (CC)

 

" Radha Krsna-pranaya-vikatir hladine-caktir asmad ekatmanav api bhuvi pura deha-bhedaa gatau tau.

 

So Radha and Krsna is the one Supreme, but in order to enjoy, They have divided into two.

 

Again Lord Caitanya joined the two into one.

 

Caitanyakhyaa prakaoam adhuna.

 

That one means Krsna in the ecstasy of Radha.

 

Sometimes Krsna is in ecstasy of Radha. Sometimes Radha is in ecstasy of Krsna. This is going on. But the whole thing is Radha and Krsna means the one, the Supreme. " (CC purp)

 

" When Krsna becomes two separate identities, Srimati Radharani and Himself, loving affairs take place and hladini transforms Herself into various loving pastimes. " (Prema vivarta by Jagadananda pandit)

 

" How then did one become two? The pleasure potency of the Lord necessitates the existence of two separate identities, but whence came this pleasure potency of the Lord that created this division? " (Prema vivarta)

 

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Therefore the mood Lord Caitanya is PRIMARY. Krisna lila proceeds from THIS mood. And due to influence of internal energy there is Krisna lila-

 

" Before the pleasure potency manifests Herself, she arranges that Srimati Radharani and Lord Krsna appear as two separate transcendental personalities and the loving exchanges between Srimati Radharani and Sri Krsna causes Her to be born. "(Prema vivarta)

 

From desire Lord Caitanya there is Krishna lila. It is an internal potentiality Lord Caitanya Krishna lila gives rise. The desire of the Lord to have pleasure is given Krishna lila.

 

Therefore the mood of pure fidelity is COMPLETELY SELF-SUFFICIENT. It is primary and it is the supreme mood of an spiritual world. This is teach by Lord Caitanya. This is TEACH also by Srila Prabhupada.

 

Vipralambha Krisna lila's in the certain sense differs from vipralambha Gaura lila. Though it is the same emotion. From the point of view Krishna lila, vipralambha proceeds from a meeting. But in Gaura lila a situation another.

 

"Then, if one understands Bhagavad-gita, one can proceed to Srimad-Bhagavatam, and if one advances further, one may study Caitanya-caritamrta. "

 

"Actually, the Caitanya-caritamrta is not intended for the novice, for it is the postgraduate study of spiritual knowledge. Ideally, one begins with the Bhagavad-gita and advances through Srimad-Bhagavatam to the Caitanya-caritamrta. Although all these great scriptures are on the same absolute level, for the sake of comparative study the Caitanya-caritamrta is considered to be on the highest platform. Every verse in it is perfectly composed. Indeed, Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityananda are compared to the sun and the moon in that They dissipate the darkness of the material world. In this instance both the sun and the moon have risen together, and it is proper to offer obeisances directly to Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityananda."

 

Therefore that who only tries to understand Krisna lila it is necessary TO REFRAIN from comments on Gaura lila.

 

VIPRALAMBHA it is CULTIVATED AS WELL AS ANY OTHER SPIRITUAL MOOD. Babaji it is necessary to receive training at Srila Prabhupada, pure devotee number one, expansion Lord Caitanya and source and acarya all Gaudiya sampradaya and to cease to be neophytes.

 

Srila Prabupada in sakhya Krisna lila and madhurya vipralambha in Gaura lila like Ramananda Ray who is Pandava Arjuna -

 

"The Gaura-ganoddesa-dipika (120–24) states that Ramananda Raya was formerly Arjuna."

 

Rules and instructions are established for purpose reach supreme mood. If at whom that the full order with principles then is the idiot. 4 principles it or principles varnasram or a social life. But really it is principles of a spiritual life. Srila Prabhupada so would fix these principles that the person HAS REPENTED and developed spiritually. It not principles of morals as it is made comments by materialists. Only materialists are convinced that all is followed by them simply do not understand purpose of principles.

 

You or bala sanyasi preach and reach Gaura lila through Krisna lila. Or you reach vipralambha- Gaura lila then Krisna lila.

 

Supreme target is Gaura lila, then pure devotees do not preach artificial methods meditation as main methods.

 

Srila Prabhupada teach vipralambha. It is fact. He initiates in this mood directly as.

 

"Not sambhoga. Vipralambha. Vipralambha-seva: "Oh, I am so wretched, I could not serve Krsna. How I can see Krsna? It is not possible." In this way. "

 

To this teach, it cultivate. In Siksastaka Lord Caitanya teach you.

 

Thanks for attention. As my English?

[Guest guest]

Babajis, you has nice teach good matter about Krisna lila. Then you come im ISKCON for more big education. It is natural /images/graemlins/smile.gif)

 

"Raganuga" good site, Im may go for you. I am paceful. /images/graemlins/smile.gifJagat Prabhu love Srila Prabhupada, I am servant Jagata.

 

PS Srimati Radharani attract many gyanis for devotional servise /images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

dirty, awful, fallen kailasa

[krsna]

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He's a nice devotee who will give you his heart and hospitality-Russian style! Novogorod is a little cold this time of year? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Guest guest]

Yes, some could -10 -15

 

Welcome all! I am live in winter house in willage near town near forest. Im has altar room with deities Pancatattva, Lord Ugra Nrisimha, Radha Krisna, Sri Hanuman and Srila Prabhupada (all big pictures).

 

Then we has program and you read lectures for us - dark persons. Then we go in towv see old temples Veliki (Great) Novgorod. This town may be 1000 years oficial, but real i am listen this town 5000 years. This town old capital all Russia. Some speak Novgorod future capital Russia will be.

 

This town make old russian mistiks priests and monks. One monks swim on big stone from Greece to Novgorod. He is stand on stone and pray, stone swim in sea and stand in bank Novgorod. Then monks go and build temple. This themple and big stone has and now. In Novgorod may be 20-30 old temples, some wery old.

 

In mongol igo 200 years this town be free. Mongols do not able defeat Novgorod 200 years.

 

Atmatattva Prabhu was in Novgorod may be 3-4 ago.

 

I am was borne not Novgorod. But live in this town 10 years. This nice atmospfre for ascetik, prays. He is stay in astrolog simbol the same as born Lord Caitanya. But Saturn make all another life hard. Novgorod not good place for happy life /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Guest guest]

stop to be offensive or the next life you'll progress towards siberia

[Guest guest]

Where I am offensive boy? Do not be ofensive or the next life you'll progress towards siberia

[Guest guest]

But now in ONE town siberia OMsk more devotees than in all USA /images/graemlins/smile.gif) Welkom in siberia for devotional servise materialist.