No Kaliki Avatara in kali-yuga

[Pankaja_Dasa]

 

 

 

 

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu is not mentioned as a lila-avatara because He is an incarnation in disguise (channa-avatara). In this Age of Kali there are no lila-avataras, but there is an incarnation of the Lord manifested in the body of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This has been explained in Srimad-Bhagavatam.

http://caitanyacaritamrta.com/madhya/6/99/en1

[Pankaja_Dasa]

 

 

http://www.hare-krishna.org/showflat.php?Board=HareKrishnaNews&Number=730

 

See bottam past of this wonderful lecture

[Guest guest]

many people hold the same view for Sai Baba! Seems as if Chaitanya and Sai have something in common, after all.

[Pankaja_Dasa]

 

 

Is not a Yuga-avatara avatara.

[Guest guest]

there's no proof of Sai's avatarhood, then people may argue the same with respect to Chaitanya. That's why people in living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

[Pankaja_Dasa]

Is judged by vaishnavas. And seen whether He has symptoms or not. You can read this in Chaitanya Charitamrta.

http://caitanyacaritamrta.com/madhya/6/en1

 

 

TRANSLATION

"My dear Bhattacarya, you do not know the greatness of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. All the symptoms of the Supreme Personality of Godhead are found in Him to the highest degree."

 

PURPORT

Since the Bhattacarya was an impersonalist, he had no idea of the Absolute Truth beyond the impersonal effulgence. However, Gopinatha Acarya informed him that Caitanya Mahaprabhu was the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Those who know the Absolute Truth know it in three phases, as explained in Srimad-Bhagavatam (1.2.11):

 

vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam yaj jnanam advayam

brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate

 

"Those who are in knowledge of the nondual Absolute Truth know very clearly what is Brahman, what is Paramatma, and what is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." The Supreme Personality of Godhead is shad-aisvarya-purna, complete with six opulences. Gopinatha Acarya emphasized that all those six opulences were completely existing in Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

http://caitanyacaritamrta.com/madhya/6/78/en1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TRANSLATION

"Another name for Lord Vishnu is Triyuga because there is no incarnation of Lord Vishnu in Kali-yuga. Indeed, this is the verdict of the revealed scriptures."

 

PURPORT

The Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Vishnu, is known as Triyuga, which means that He is manifest in three yugas. However, this means that in the Age of Kali the Lord appears not directly but in disguise. This is confirmed in Srimad-Bhagavatam (7.9.38):

 

ittham nri-tiryag-rishi-deva-jhashavatarair

lokan vibhavayasi hamsi jagat-pratipan

dharmam maha-purusha pasi yuganuvrittam

channah kalau yad abhavas tri-yugo 'tha sa tvam

 

"My Lord, You kill all the enemies of the world in Your multifarious incarnations in the families of men, animals, demigods, rishis, aquatics and so on. Thus You illuminate the worlds with transcendental knowledge. In the Age of Kali, O Mahapurusha, You sometimes appear in a covered incarnation. Therefore You are known as Triyuga [one who appears in only three yugas]."

 

Srila Sridhara Svami has also verified that Lord Vishnu appears in the Age of Kali but does not act as He does in other ages. Lord Vishnu incarnates for two purposes: paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca dushkritam [bg. 4.8]. That is, He comes to engage in pastimes with His devotees and to annihilate the demons. These purposes are visible in the Satya, Treta and Dvapara yugas, but in Kali-yuga the Lord appears disguised. He does not directly kill demons and give protection to the faithful. Because the Lord is not directly perceived in Kali-yuga but is directly known in the other three yugas, His name is Triyuga.

http://caitanyacaritamrta.com/madhya/6/95/en1

 

 

 

 

 

 

TRANSLATION

"'In the past, your son has had bodies of three different colors, according to the age. These colors were white, red and yellow . In this age [Dvapara-yuga] He has accepted a blackish body.'

 

PURPORT

This verse from Srimad-Bhagavatam (10.8.13) was spoken by Garga Muni when he was performing the rituals at Lord Krishna's name-giving ceremony. He states that the incarnations of the Lord in other ages had been white, red and yellow. This yellow color refers to Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, whose bodily complexion was yellowish. This confirms that in past Kali-yugas the Lord also had incarnated in a body that was yellow in hue. It is understood that the Lord incarnates in different colors for the different yugas (Satya, Treta, Dvapara and Kali). Accepting the color yellow (pita), as well as other characteristics, the Lord incarnated as Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This is the verdict of all Vedic authorities.

http://caitanyacaritamrta.com/madhya/6/101/en1

 

 

Chaitanya is the yellow [Golden] Incarnation, and Has His own transcdendental Dhama.

[Guest guest]

<< Seems as if Chaitanya and Sai have something in common, after all. >>>

 

About the only similarity between them is that they both appeared in India.

 

Besides that, the comparison is not even worth the effort. You're comparing a man to the Supreme Personality.

[Guest guest]

that Sai is Krishna, just like chaitanya.

[Guest guest]

... believe that they're God. That doesn't make them God.

[akshar]

I've seen throughout this whole website that all ISCKON devotees hate Sai Baba, why is this?

[akshar]

Just because there will be no krishna no avatar doesen't make it so. Vishnu will come near the end of kali-yuga. He will have the garuda as his horse and a lighting bolt as his sword, according to what i read.