Swaminarayan

[Guest]

 

 

 

Please read within the Nishklanand Kavya the Purshottam Prakaash Prakaar 37:

 

 

Chopai: Ek bahu bahu Parkare re, vale Jeev tarya ah vare re

Bahu Hari kari Parmarth re, tarya jeev vavri samarthya re

Varto vichaar karyo che vale re, avu avu ghanu kem chale re

Mota mota karavya Mandir re, tema rakhya sant sudhir re

Pan teh toh sant che joh tyagi re, vasi kem sakshe vitragi re

Mamat vina Mandir kem rehshe re, vaat bandh eh kem bes she re

Jeh tyagi che triya dhan tanare, deh suchthi nirashi ghanare

Tene nahi jarvaay jagya re, nathi vaat eh banva lagya re

Mate ena karu ek dhani re, toh rakhe khabar eni ghani re

Pachi sarvar desh thi sambandhi re, tene teravi jaygha didhire

Sthapya dat putra pote sthir re, avadhprasadne raghuvir re

Tene ape karya acharyaj re, karva bahu jivna kaarajre

Apya vechimandir ne desh re, jema koi ne na thay kalesh re

Sadhu Satsangi na guru kidha re, desh uttar dakshin vechi didha re

Kahe sau sahune desh rejo re, saro sahune updesh dejo re

Tamne manshe pujshe jeh re, mota sukh ne pamshe the re

Ann dhan apshe anbar re, pashu vahan ne vari ghar re

Fal full dal jal deshere, te toh akhand dham ne leshe re

Eh adi jeh apshe vastra re, eva ghar dhaari jeh gruhast re

Vari padhravshe potane gher re, karshe seva vari sari pere re

Vari karshe sanmaan enu re, mare karvu che kalyaan tenu reh

Em acharya thi kalyaan re, thashe sahu jivnu sujaan re

Mano moksh no chelo upaay re, eh upraant nathi kahy re

Murti acharaj dharmpaal re, reshe kalyan te bahu kaar re

Jeh jeh ene koi asharshe re, teh toh jaroor bhavjar tarshe re

Karshe darshan gunn leshe re, vari pachya pramane koi deshe re

Shraddha sahit seva kare soi re, vari raaji thashe ene joi re

Eva jann jeh jeh jagh mahi re, teni karvi mare sahaay re

Mari iccha che hamh evi re, param prapti sahu devi re

Mate moksh nu motu dvaar re, ame ughadiyu che ahh vaar re

Acharya thi bahu udharshe re, jano brahmnagar vaas karshe re

Em shri mukhe kahyu Shrijire, jan sau satya mani lijiye re

Bhagwan this time round emancipated many souls.With his great powers he showed much of his divinity. God thought, how can what He has established exist for the maximum time? God decided that He has constructed big temples and got saints to reside therein. But these saints are renunciates how will they live with so much control. How can temples exist without the saints thinking them as their own? These saints cannot have money or women and even not attached to their own body. They should not and cannot control such places, so I shall establish those who can control all this. So God called His relatives from sarvar desh and gave them places to stay. He consecrated Ayodhyaprasad and Raghuvir as His sons. He then initiated them as Acharyas so that they could help those in seek of salvation. He divided the land and the mandirs unto them so no one would have problems. He made them the gurus of ALL sadhus and satsangis and divided the land into southern and northern divisions. He stated for them to live in their respective regions and preach the goodness of others to them. Whoever listens to the word of the Acharyas and performs their veneration will attain much happiness. Whoever donates them grain, money, animals, transport, fruit, flowers and water they will attain my eternal abode. Whichever householders gives all this and anything else such as clothes as well as calls them unto their home, venerates them, provides service to them and respects them, I, will give them moksh. In this way the Acharyas will give Moksh to the souls. You should all believe that this is the final way to attain liberation. There is no other way after this fourth way to attain moksh. I shall live in the Acharyas forever. Whoever takes refuge unto them will definitely cross this material world. Whoever has their darshan and takes their good attributes, talks good of them, serves them with love and gets happy unto seeing them shall I will look after them forever. I want all to attain such liberation of the first kind, such is my will. Hence this is a great big door for attaining moksh, which I have opened this time round. Many will be liberated through these Acharyas and live in my Akshardham. This is what Shriji Maharaj Himself stated. Hence all should believe such firmly.

Please read within the Nishklanand Kavya the Purshottam Prakaash Prakaar 39:

Dharmvasnhini gadiye beshe re, vari kavshe dharm updeshi re

Mate ethi tarshe apaar re, nischay janjo eh nirdhar re

Bahu kaar laghi kalyaan re, thashe nischay jano nirvana re

Evi iccha che joh amari re, evu dhaam thi avya ame dhari reh

Em bolya shri hari harakhi re, suni vaat lidhi che joh lakhi re.

The Dharmvanshis have sat on my throne and will give dharm to all. Hence many will get liberated from them so all should realise this. Many will attain Moksh from them for all time. This is our will and I have decided this all the way from Akshardham. This is what Shri Hari stated in great joy and hearing this I have written it here. – Nishkulanand Swami.

Please read within the Nishklanand Kavya the Purshottam Prakaash Prakaar 40:

Mate sau dharmkul manjo, sau karjo eni sev

Anya jan jeva eh nahi, eh che janjo mota dev

Ek Brahmin jano bhakt ati, vari kave amaru kul

Ene sevta sau jann tamo, pamsho such atur

Manvanchit vaat malshe, vari sevta ena charan

Eh che amari agna, sarve kaalma sukh karan

Mann karm vachane manjo, ema nathi sanshay laghaar

Eh dvare mare anekno, aaj karvo che udhaar

Chopai: mate sau rejo ene vachane re, tyagi gruhi sahu ek mane re,

Rejo Dharmvanshi gamte re, vartsho mah koye mann mate re

Eh kahye tem sau karjo re, puchya vina toh pagh na bharjo re

Haath jori ne rejo hajur re, kari daapan potani door re

Vidhya gunn buddhi ne bare re, ene dabaava nahi koi pare re

Tyagi raaghi neh kavi koi hoy re, toy ene manjo sahu koi re

Vad vivaad kari vadane re, eshu bolsho ma koi danne re

Eni vaat upar vaat ani re, kedi vadsho ma mukhe vaani re

Ene horye hathaavi harvi re, potani sarsaai na karvi re

Pote samji potane praveen re, ene samajsho ma gunn hee re

Jem eh vaare tem varjo re, ena kaam kaaj ma bharjo re

Eni manjo sahu agna re, vartsho ma koi vachan vina re

Ene raaji raksho joh tame re, toh tam par raaji chiyye ame re

Ene raaji rakshe jeh jann re, tene amne karya prasann re

Kaah je amara thekane eh che re, teto praveen hoy the priche re

Bija jann eh marm nah lahe re, bhora manushya ne bhorai rahe re

Pan samajvi vaat sudhi re, ati mati na rakhvi undhi re

Vachan dvare vasya ame ema re, tame fer jansho ma tema re

Ame ema eh che amm maahi re, em samjo sahu bai bhai re

Ethi ame argha na rahiye re, ema rahine darshan dahi re

Jeh jeh jann ne thaay samaas re, teh toh ame kari rahya vaas re

Sher patane sanmaan jare reh, the toh amari samarthi vare re

Deshpardesh pujaay aapre, tetoh jano amaro prataap re

Jya jaay tiya jaay jeet re, tetoh ame rahya rudi reet re

Em samjo sahu sujaan re, amm vina nah hoy kalyaan re

Dharmvanshi acharyaj mahi re, sada rahyo chu mari irchaay re

Ati dharmvara joi jann re, rehva maani gayu maru mann re

Mate ene puje hu pujano re, tetoh jarror jann mann jano re

Enu jene karyu sanmaan re, tene maru karyu che nidaan re

Em jaani lejo sahu jann re, em bolya shri Bhagwan re

Suni jann magan thaya re, dhanya dhanya swami keva rahya re

Pachi sau acharya sevya re, tetoh mota such ne leva re.

Hence all should have firm faith in the dharmkul and should all serve them. They are not like the other people; understand them to be great Devtas. They are Brahmins and that too of my family. By serving them you shall attain happiness too. By serving them and paying respect at their feet you will all attainyou’re your desires. This is our order, which should be followed for all time. Believe this by mind, action and speech there is no doubt in this at all. I want to from now give moksh to many.

Hence all should live in their commands whether it is the Sadhu’s or householders. Do not live by following your mind always live as they would want

you to live. Do as they ask and never even step forward without asking them. Always be humble with them and cast away any foolishness. All renunciates, householders and even the likes of singers should live according to them. Never

fall into arguments with them. If you keep them happy then I will be happy upon you. Do not think yourselves greater or knowledgeable than them nor enter into

debates with them or think them without any good attributes. Whoever keeps them happy means that they are keeping me happy. Do as they ask and always aid them in their work. Follow their orders and do not live without their agna. The yare in place of me, only those who are worthy shall understand this. Other people will not understand this and are misinformed and fall into false understanding. But one should understand this talk and not have a false sense of belief. I live in the Acharyas through my divine speech do not see any different. All males and females should understand that the Acharyas live in me and I live in them. I do not live far from them at all, I give my darshan through them. Whoever advances in Satsang shall understand that its because I live close to them. Wherever the Acharyas shall be respected they will understand it to be because of my greatness. They will be venerated here and in other foreign lands

and that is too because of my supremacy. Wherever they go they will triumph as I live in them in a great way. All should understand this greatly. As without Me there is no liberation. I live in the Dharmvanshi Acharyas with my own will. I also live in those who follow Dharm greatly. Thus worshipping them I am too worshipped. All you people should realise such with firm minds. Whoever has respected the Acharyas in such a way has said to have done what I have stated for them to do. So all of you shall realise such. In that Shri Bhagwan spoke. All were happy to hear this and they thought how greatly God lives amongst us. Then all performed veneration of the Acharyas to attain the divine bliss of God.

[Baobabtree]

 

to put it simply, I feel no attachment to the name "Swaminarayan" when I chant it, and I chanted it faithfully.

Everyone is different in regards to this. In fact I first came into this Sampraday by chanting "Jai Swaminarayan" in which I found great spiritual attachment. However, some will find attraction instead in the names of Rama, Shiva or Krishna.

 

 

Anyways while I agree way more with the traditional two diocese, they are WAY corrupt with their so called "saints" abounding in murder, sex ,etc. what a joke!

So? You think a saint in Prabhupada's sampraday has never fallen before? We can't base a whole sampraday based on the actions of some of its followers (may Bhagwan forgive them).

 

Edit:

The majority, if not all, of the followers are also Gujurati people.

I'm not even Indian

[Kautilya]

Jay Swaminaryan and Jai Shri Krisnha to you Daas ka Daas,

 

I too have seen the philosophies of the original sampradaya and I basically agree with it, however can you genuinely say that the majority of sadhus follow their niyam-dharma in the Vadtal/Kalupur? Come on, Daas ka Daas, admitting that there is something wrong is the first step towards making it right, await hearing from you.

[Guest]

 

Everyone is different in regards to this. In fact I first came into this Sampraday by chanting "Jai Swaminarayan" in which I found great spiritual attachment. However, some will find attraction instead in the names of Rama, Shiva or Krishna.

 

So? You think a saint in Prabhupada's sampraday has never fallen before? We can't base a whole sampraday based on the actions of some of its followers (may Bhagwan forgive them).

 

Edit: I'm not even Indian

 

My many dandvats at your feet!! At last someone who realises truth as it is!! Oh and look they are not even Indian. There you go Kautilya.

 

God Bless you.

Jai Swaminarayan.

[Guest]

 

Jay Swaminaryan and Jai Shri Krisnha to you Daas ka Daas,

 

I too have seen the philosophies of the original sampradaya and I basically agree with it, however can you genuinely say that the majority of sadhus follow their niyam-dharma in the Vadtal/Kalupur? Come on, Daas ka Daas, admitting that there is something wrong is the first step towards making it right, await hearing from you.

 

I will most definatley answer this remark of yours. As truly from experience i can say this is not a fact.

 

The majority of the saints ARE following their panch Vartmaans but the minority are not. The ones you talk of are the minority of teh bad apples which will pay for their deeds just like anybody else would.

 

You have to understand that just because a few so called sadhus do not follow what they are meant to .. the whole Sampraday shouldnt be tarnished for it. Its also not fair that all of the true saints are also bought down and disregarded because of these minority of the few ones.

 

Also just what baobabtree stated "You think a saint in Prabhupada's sampraday has never fallen before? We can't base a whole sampraday based on the actions of some of its followers (may Bhagwan forgive them)."

 

 

ISKOn is a great sampraday will you question it becasue of the bad karmas performed by the few bad Sadhus that exist in it? As my Ishtadev Swaminarayan bhagwan teaches that we shouldnt look at such to recognise whether Satsang is genuine or not. we should be looking at whether there are true Saints that exist there and that the Sampradays philosophy is in accordance with the Vedas.

 

Also as you see baboatree has clearly explained that they have experienced high bliss from the name of Swaminarayan. he is also not of indian origin. So that clearly answers your questions in your above post.

 

Im not having a go at you or trying to be nasty to you. Im just in hope that you realise and understand.

 

My many dandvats to you if you are offended in any way.

God Bless you.

Jai Swaminarayan.

Jai Shri krishna

[PureIndian]

check out this chesta, its brilliant:

 

youtube.com/watch?v=8dsYm2KlVnU

[Kautilya]

 

I will most definatley answer this remark of yours. As truly from experience i can say this is not a fact.

 

The majority of the saints ARE following their panch Vartmaans but the minority are not. The ones you talk of are the minority of teh bad apples which will pay for their deeds just like anybody else would.

 

You have to understand that just because a few so called sadhus do not follow what they are meant to .. the whole Sampraday shouldnt be tarnished for it. Its also not fair that all of the true saints are also bought down and disregarded because of these minority of the few ones.

 

Also just what baobabtree stated "You think a saint in Prabhupada's sampraday has never fallen before? We can't base a whole sampraday based on the actions of some of its followers (may Bhagwan forgive them)."

 

 

ISKOn is a great sampraday will you question it becasue of the bad karmas performed by the few bad Sadhus that exist in it? As my Ishtadev Swaminarayan bhagwan teaches that we shouldnt look at such to recognise whether Satsang is genuine or not. we should be looking at whether there are true Saints that exist there and that the Sampradays philosophy is in accordance with the Vedas.

 

Also as you see baboatree has clearly explained that they have experienced high bliss from the name of Swaminarayan. he is also not of indian origin. So that clearly answers your questions in your above post.

 

Im not having a go at you or trying to be nasty to you. Im just in hope that you realise and understand.

 

My many dandvats to you if you are offended in any way.

God Bless you.

Jai Swaminarayan.

Jai Shri krishna

 

 

Jai Shri Krishna

Jai Swaminarayan!

 

Well I know for a fact that the Bhuj santos are some of the most austere tyagis in the WORLD!! In the Vadtal diocese itself I have not had much experience with, I just hope the original sampradaya will regain its lost glory.

 

Pranam and dandvats!

[Guest]

Jai Swaminarayan.

 

Yes, my many pranams and dandvats.

 

The original sampraday is now advancing greatly. Thanks, at least you acknowledge the great saints of Bhuj. My guru is also a great saint of Bhuj too. The Vadtal diocese is also doing greatly at the moment too after the new great Acharya. Here is a link for the Vadtal diocese:

 

http://www.vadtal.com/

 

Jai Swaminarayan.

[Kyros]

Daas ka daas, don't assume things about other people. You claim that it was my fault that I never followed my niyams correctly, or that I did something wrong, but you're not helping your own arguments by falsely accusing me of these things which I never stated or implyed.

 

If Swaminarayan was such an all-merciful God, he wouldn't have had me deter in my path like this, and I wasn't even as bad as I was with my devotion to Lord Krishna.

 

I didn't even start out perfectly in the Vaishnava-sampradaya path. I was watching all sorts of things on TV, playing video games, checking out women, etc etc. All these manifested when I gave up chanting "Swaminarayan." I never even thought of doing these things so much back when I was following the Swaminarayan-sampradaya.

 

But even from that position, I took up Krishna consciousness, and even though I fell many times between then and now, I always had an unsung taste to come back to it. Always.

 

I no longer have a great desire to watch movies, or TV, or play video games, not unless they're about the Lord or his devotees. I have pretty much given up all sorts of music except for some soundtracks (I.E. No Words), but even those soundtracks sound dull. That's a long way for me since I was always listening to things like Eminem, 50 cent; some of the most rotten types of music you can imagine.

 

Like I said before, it's all experience. If you truly believe that the Swaminarayan-sampradaya is for you, so be it, but from what I have learned between these two sampradayas, is that you must never follow things blindly.

[Guest]

First of all my humble pranaams to you. I am not assuming anything. Many hundreds of people have deterred from Hinduism, many have deterred from ISKON. Does this mean that Shri Krishna is not God? Of course it does not. So your prime statement holds no water. As the same can be said for any faiths. Secondly I myself have come across two brothers who have decided to accept the mool Swaminarayan Sampraday from ISKON. This does not mean that they do not like Shri Krishna. This simply means that they find the atmosphere at the Swaminarayan Sampraday adaptable to the way they worship/do bhakti God.

I’m really happy about how you have realised what is great for us. Us meaning the soul. As that is who we really are. Not this body. So it is good to hear that you have given up many material things after realising that they are perishable and hence find them dull. As truth is that God alone is worthy of realisation and worship. His shown way of life is he best way for all mankind and also most blissful. Nothing else can be compared to Him and anything related to Him. I was doing allsorts as well; I was not born into what I follow today. With realising Parbrahm Purshottam Bhagwan and His true saints had made me capable and the given me the knowledge on how to clean my inner enemies.

Like I said im not following anything blindly. I have looked into many different sampradays. For the millions of us we feel that (like described in the Vedas) we can cleanse our inner enemies, the three bodies(sthool, sukhsma and kaaran), the three states (swapna, jagrut and shushupti) and realise God and His greatness through His true saint and worship Him accordingly to make Him happy, selflessly. Therefore what we followers follow is not blindly following. Those who in the name of Swaminarayan follow the later offshoots branches of the Sampraday can be said to be following blindly as they are not in accordance with the principles of Bhagwan Swaminarayan or even the Vedas, Upanishads, Shrutis or Smrutis. But not the followers of the authentic faith established by God almighty Bhagwan Shri Swaminarayan.

Jai Swaminarayan.

Jai Shri Krishna

[Guest]

By the way like i told you earlier "Just chanting away for some time cannot achieve anything alone". An apology for the disrespect you showed in your earlier post about my Ishtadev would not go amiss either.

 

Jai Swaminarayan

Nar Narayan Dev Ki Jai

Laksmi Narayan Dev ki Jai

[Kyros]

It was "chanting away for some time" that allowed me to come to this point in my life.

 

Also, my words may not be considered flowery to you, that is not my concern about your feelings toward something I consider completely faux. It would be pure hypocrisy for me to do something like that.

[Guest]

Very nice. What you do is your problem. Whether what i follow or not matters to you or not, doesnt matter to me. Im blissful and attain great bliss from learning and worshipping Shri swaminarayan Bhagwan who is Purshottam Narayan. Who i have the oppertunity to please in this very life.

 

Your words "being flowery or not" do not hinder or excel me. You have to introspect and clean your inner enemies, realise yourself to be the soul and then worship Shri Purshottam Narayan.

 

if you are achieving this then well done, its great.

 

God bless.

 

Jai Swaminarayan

[ddatdd]

 

5) I was recently watching the official DVD of Akshardham temple (Its really a wonderful place ) and all through the DVD they have not shown any video/shots of the "Ganpati" or "Radha krishna" murti...only one line of verbal that the temple also has the murti of so and so god....

 

 

As I know Akshardham is not Mandir or <st1:city><st1:place>Temple</st1:place></st1:city>, it's just master piece of <st1:country-region><st1:place>India</st1:place></st1:country-region> temple architecture . Bcos there is no 5 times arti, thal etc done in this complex. There are murti of <st1:place>Krishna</st1:place> and Vishnu but they are not install by PRAN PRATHISTHA. You can see their photo in their website.

 

btw..I have placed a small picture of Pramukh swami" in our temple and i do pray to him along with other "Hnidu gods"...

 

Shikhshapatri Verse 115

Lord Shree Krishna, His incarnations, idols, and images alone are worthy objects for meditation. One should never meditate upon any Jiva, person, Deva (demi-gods), or deity, even if he is a profound devotee or a Brahmaveta.

[PureIndian]

Daas Ka Daas bruvs, you say that there are still scriptures that the sampraday have not published yet, howcomes they have not released them?

[Guest]

They have all been read, dont get me wrong. I for example in Vadtal got to read some of the great works by Madhavanand Swami who was initiated by Bhagwan Swaminarayan. It had many personal experiences that swami may have had. So its not like they are not read but it does take quite some time to mass publish 225 great lenghthy scriptures. But all the great major works like the Vachnamrut, Dharmamrut, Satsangi bhushan etc. as you may know have been published.

 

Jai Swaminarayan.

[GODSEED]

 

Even the vedas have a chapter which was written by a rushimuni who did not believe in god.

 

nice story! nice concoction!

 

 

Underneath vaishnavism fall Ram, Krishna, all avtars of Vishnu, and swaminarayan. .

 

no svami please...only Näräyan! this svami may be a part of your sentimental foolishness or bigotic-jabbed imagination....not at all real! all u l svaminarayanis are trying to fool around the world, banging bugles that ur svami is this or that...without any Vedic evidence. dont do this. or u will fall further!

 

an Incarnation is not to be recognized by a group of bigotic fumdamentalists, it should be revealed clearly in all the Vedic Shästras!

 

u guys are, without any evidence whatsoever, have been passing this virus since generations, that svami is god! this is one of the biggest offences!

 

 

ishwar- a jiv wich has done some great karma and has been give a resposibility of taking care of his particular seva(job).

 

Krishna, Ram, Brahma, vishnu, mahesh, agni, vayu, indra...all of these entities fall underneath this category becuase they are still affected by the next entity. ~(as i sidenote, every refernce of ram, krishna,etc... in any hindu scripture is as ishwar and not parabrahm). Therefore if a jiv can be elevated into the status of ishwar, this means that in your past lives you could have been krishna, or ram, or shiv. the catch is that from this state you cannot go above maya, it is only possible to go above maya and liberate yourself as a jiv.

 

Maya- jiv and ishwar are the only entites that are affected by it.

An intresting anecdote pertaining to this matter is that when Arjun wanted to go se parabrahm (becuase krishna is not parabrhma, he is ishwar) he asked krishna for a way to go through maya to meet him. In return krishna gave him the sudarshan chakra which has the brightness of 10,000 suns.

 

u better share all these nice stories with ur foolish mates, who are busy propagating kaliyuga and having a lotta sex with prostitues. i know the current state of ur religion, and how may legal cases of ur fake and vulturous sadhus of this bogus sampradaya, are pending in Gujarat High Court! however, this has nothing to do with svaminryan, who was otherwise pretty decent guy, but due to a rotten lineage this sect has reached a nadir or concocction till now!

 

http://www.gujaratglobal.com/nextSub.php?id=3200&cattype=NEWS

 

http://echarcha.com/forum/printthread.php?t=19223&pp=40

 

http://www.gujaratglobal.com/nextSub.php?id=3200&cattype=NEWS

 

http://www.rediff.com/news/2005/feb/18cd.htm

 

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2005/02/16/stories/2005021605891200.htm

 

 

 

 

 

As i was saying, jiv and ishwar are the only entites affected by maya. maya can be thought of as the matrix, its everything around you, anything that you are attached to, any temporary pleasures, anything that will not go with you when you die, basically almost everything. All emotions are part of maya; greed, anger, lust, ego, the senses, everything..

 

nice logic, well, u seem to be follwing those bogus hollywood movies! no wonders:crazy:

 

no wonders sadhus of this sampradaya are so hungry for lust...with so much of concocction, and piles of sins...

 

 

Parabrahm-This is god, the supreme being, swaminarayan.

we believe that swaminarayan is parabrahm.

 

wow, may be ur baby will be convinced! please dont do this here, a sigh from a pure Vaishnava will pulverise your whole bogus sampradya!

 

who cares for your beliefs, even bats dont believe in light! 'cos, the poor bats cant see it! but u, having attained human body:mad2: by ShreeKrshna's grace, u rascals are cooking all such vulgar stories inside. surely, u guys are heading for hell!

 

 

 

swaminarayan has just as many miracles as krishna does. the only difference is that he changed peoples lives for there better while krishna was there to resolve the issue of kansa and the pandav vs. kurav war. i am not saying that worshipping krishna is bad, it is better then what most people do, but you must realize that with krishna you will still be below maya and therefore not permenantly liberated. you will still be in the cycle of birth and death, you will still be in maya..

 

what the hell do ur houndy sadhus know about Lord ShreeKrshna! u bogus secterians are worse than even fundmentalists...

 

and how can u believe those who cant even control their sense urge!

 

 

pramukh Swami is brahma. .

 

not brahma but it is under bram (an illusion)

 

yes for u fools! leader of fools is more fool. more rascal!

i say that! u all are rascals!

 

 

 

I know this may be confusing but it is late at night. if you have any quetions regarding this post email me at ampster.hack@gmail.com. you may reply to this post but i doubt if i will reply back.

 

i want ur street address.

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<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="98%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=2 height=20><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD vAlign=top>LORD SWAMINARAYAN

By His own grace and at His own will Lord Swaminarayan manifested (born) Himself for the protection of religion and devotion in Kaliyuga for the welfare of numerous embodied souls. Lord Swaminarayan is the direct incarnation of Narayan Himself, at Whose will infinite universes create, sustain and destroy.

Thus His biological manifestation (birth) took place on 9th day of bright half of Chaitra month in V.S. 1837, known as Ramanavami in Chhapaiya, a village near Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh. His father Dharmadev was Samavedi scholar Brahmin and mother was called Bhaktidevi owing to her devotional virtues and sacred qualities. After the passing away of His parents, when He was only eleven, the ascetic minded Neelkanth Varni later called Lord Swaminarayan, renounced His home with all its wealth and comforts and set out as a pedestrian pilgrim visiting Indian pilgrim spots and holy sites.

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=2> For the period of several years of His pilgrimage He performed severest penances for His devotees. As a part of His pilgrimage through Gujarat He happened to arrive in Loj village, situated midway between Somnath and Porbunder in Saurashtra. There He met Muktanandji, the chief disciple of great master Ramanand Swami; and later He came to have a face-to-face meeting with Ramanand Swami in a village called 'Piplana'.

Having taken birth in material body Lord Swaminarayan, too accepted Ramanand Swami, as His preceptor (Guru) and as per set religious rules got initiated, receiving Diksha at the hands of the great preceptor. Then the great preceptor handed over the control and management of entire Uddhava Religious Discipline to Lord Swaminarayan, Who inspired people to have Darshan of their family God instance without practising the Ashtang Yoga. Many people became His-words and His disciples after properly checking and testing the meditation process by the Lord. Without giving much importance to mysterious performances and miracles He engaged Himself in enriching the society by teaching them purity of thought, food, conduct by removing bad habits, addiction, blind faith, suspiciousness, immorality, corruption, luxury, inertness, theft, dacoity etc. Some scholars believed that there can be no incarnation of the God in Kaliyuga, He convinced them through proofs from the Geeta, the Bhagawat and other scriptures that Lord Swaminarayan is the Supreme incarnation and made them His wards and disciples. Lord Swaminarayan is the Supreme Brahman and the proof to this fact is found in ancient scriptures e.g.,

“Whenever religion suffers tormented regression I re-create myself to uproot irreligion and re-establish good religion to protect the gentle folk and to destroy the evil ones in every age”. (Geeta 48-49)

You don't, but I know them all, for good many a birth yours and mine, have gone in the past (Geeta 45). According to the Geeta there is no such rule that incarnation should take place in Triyuga having 10 or 24 in number, other scriptures also offer similar description.

To protect religion I get another body, to eradicate irreligion I do manifest when the age demands (Shrimad Bhagawat) Brahmapurana says:

In Satyuga I manifest as Dattatreya, as Raghunandana in Treta Age, as Vasudeva in Dwapara, as Vrishatmaja (i.e. born of Shri Dharmadev) in Kaliyuga. Vishwaksena Samhita says :

Among all parts of universe I take birth on the Earth, I shall adore Vaikuntha adopting the name Sahajanand. All these scriptures prove Lord Swaminarayan as the Vedic acceptance of incarnated Supreme Reality.

Like the previous incarnations He did not destroy demons but He removed the demonic inclinations and turned demonic persons into divine ones. He uplifted and elevated the classes like Kathi-koli, Ahir, Shudra, Bhil, Moslims, illiterate peasantry etc. Apart from backward classes but great scholar-poets, officials, rulers and kings renouncing worldly life joined the Holy Fellowship, got initiated into asceticism, became stoics and set out for the spread of religion. Scholar saints offered valuable devotional prose-verse literature by offering volumes written in Sanskrit, Hindi, Brijbhasha and Gujarati. He opposed violent killing of animals before deities and in the Yajnas and offering scholarly counseling, stopped violence done in the name of religion. He advocated and popularised non-violent Yajnas. Lord Swaminarayan did welfare to many humans and animals by creating free-food centres, wells, step-wells, tanks and temples. He declared in Shikshapatri-47,

Both Narayan and Mahesh (Shiva) should be understood as one, both are proven forms of Brahman confirmed by Vedas. Thus he brought an end to the hostility between the Shaivas and Vaishnavas.

In order to bring complete chastity of character into the Holy Fellowship, He ordered that the temples, meeting assemblies and initiating rites should be quite separate for male and female followers. So he appointed married persons as chief of the Fellowship, from His own family line, and ordered the saints to observe eight types of aloofness from females. So that there would remain no possibility of corruption by crossing boundaries of self-control.

In order to prevent any blind tradition in the pure devotion of the Lord with a form (figure) he got large and beautiful temples constructed and wrote a sacred volume called Shikshapatri for the welfare of many souls even after His leaving the human body. Having fulfilled His mission of establishing the Bhagawat Dharma and the task of rejuvanising and revitalizing the ancient Vedic path, He left His mortal coil and assented to His divine abode Akshardham at Gadhpur (Saurashtra) on the 10th day of the bright half of Jyestha month of Vikram Samvat 1886; thenceforward He has been offering His divine vision in the form of an idol installed by Him in various temples in Holy Fellowship.

</TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=2> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2 height=20>Five Vows of Shree Swaminarayan Sampraday :

Bhagwan Shree Swaminarayan established five (5) Vows Panch Vartaman for people in Ghruhashram i.e. house-holders and five (5) Vows for people in Tyagashram (Swamis/Saints).

The basic five Vows of house-holders :

 

 

The followers were increased in a large number. Only devotion and worship is not enough for salvation. The virtuous moral and devotional human life is absolutely necessary. So He (Lord Swaminarayan) preached the five basic Vows compulsory for all.

1. <LI class=maintext>NOT to drink wine, liquor or any intoxicating drug of any sort in any form in any case, NOT even as a medicine. <LI class=maintext>NOT to eat meat in any form in any case. NOT even as the offerings of evil deities or sacrifice or as a medicine to save one's own life. <LI class=maintext>To abstain from adultery. NOT to look at a lady passionately. NOT to keep close contact with ladies except the nearest relatives. <LI class=maintext>NOT to steal even a smallest thing. Even the worthless flowers should NOT be taken for offerings to deities without the permission of the owner.
   
2. NOT to take food and drinks from improper persons and by improper sources.

Whosoever wants to become the follower of Lord Swaminarayan has to take an oath in presence of a great Saint keeping water in his right hand to abstain from these five. If anybody transgresses any of these five is not called a follower of Swaminarayan. He is excommunicated. These are the five basic Vows for house-holders. These are known as Panch Vartman.

The five Vows of Saints (Sadhus) :

Saints of Swaminarayan have to observe strictly their special five vows listed below as well as the five basic vows listed above. They are given them at the time of their initiation as Saints. They are initiated by either Vadtal or Ahmedabad gadi's Acharya.

1. <LI class=maintext>Lustless: Desireless:- He has to observe Naishthik Brahmacharya i.e. eight-fold celibacy strictly. He has to observe a fast if he has seen a face of a lady. Not to expect any remuneration even of his good deeds or must not have any desire of anything. <LI class=maintext>Greedless:- He should not be attached at all to the worldly objects. He should keep clothes and things only permitted to him. He should not accept, touch or possess even any sort of currency of his own. <LI class=maintext>Tasteless:- He should not be allured or tempted at all to any taste. Not to eat anything which is not offered to God, that also mixed togather with water. <LI class=maintext>Prideless:- He should not have any sort of pride of renouncement, penance, knowledge, efficiency religious austerity, devotion, etc. If anybody beats him, abuses him or insults him, he should endure patiently, not to be angry at all, should forgive, not to oppose, not to keep any grudge or any ill feelings for him, but to wish good for him and to pity for his ignorance.
   
2. Affectionless:- He should not have any affection at all towards his body, his relatives, his disciples or anything except Almighty God Supreme.

There are 11 Niyams that each Satsangi of Shree Swaminarayan Sampraday has to follow :

 

 

1. <LI class=maintext>Hinsa na karvi (Be non-violentby any means) <LI class=maintext>Parstri no sang na karvo (Do not have any kind of relationship with other woman other than your wife) <LI class=maintext>Mansh na khavu (Do not eat meat, i.e. including seafood, poultry products, eggs) <LI class=maintext>Daru na pivo (Do not drink products that contain alcohol, i.e. wine, beer, medicine that contains alcohol) <LI class=maintext>Vidhva stri no sparsh na karvo (Never touch widow woman whom you do not know) <LI class=maintext>Atmaghat na karvo (Never commit a suicide in any circumstances) <LI class=maintext>Chori na karvi (Do not steal things that belong to others) <LI class=maintext>Koi ne kalank na devu (Never blame others for something that you may not know about) <LI class=maintext>Devo ni ninda na karvi (Never bad mouth about God, Goddesses, or any religion) <LI class=maintext>Jenu na khaptu hoy tenu na khavu (Never eat someone's food who does not follow these eleven rules established by Lord Shree Swaminarayan in Shikshapatri)
   
2. Bhagwan thi vimukh hoy tena thaki katha na sabhalavi (Never listen holy stories from a person who does not believe in the existence of God, i.e. a person who is an atheist)

Questions and Answers based on "Shikshapatri" Sloks :

What should a devotee ask to Bhagwan ?

 

 

1. <LI class=maintext>Hey Maharaj! Hey Swami! Hey Krupasindhu! Hey Sharnagat Pratipalak! Ohh Lord! please save me from Kusangi (bad people). There are 4 types of bad people: (I) Kundapanthi - People who won't let you follow the Niyams of Satsangi, (II) Shakti Panthi - People who would force you to eat meat and to drink beer, wine, etc., (III) Shushka Panthi - People who would not let you perform Bhakti, etc., (IV) Nastik - People who do not believe in existence of God <LI class=maintext>Hey Maharaj! Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Ahankar, Irshya, Dehabhiman aa je antahsatru thanki maari raksha karjo.
   
2. Hey Maharaj! Nitya tamara bhakt no samagam dejyo. (Please give me an opportunity to meet your satsangi everyday)

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>SWAMINARAYAN BHAGWAN WAS GOD HIMSELF. YOU CALL HIM A "DECENT GUY" WELL A DECENT GUY WOULDNT LIE RIGHT?? LOL WELL EVEN HE SHOWED HE WAS GOD.