Tirisilex Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Does this mean all pleasures? I find this a bit difficult.. I'm an artist. I love beauty.. I love music.. I need to give up enjoying these things? Sunsets, Beautiful pictures... why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jahnava Nitai Das Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Everything needs to be dovetailed in Krishna's service, not necessarily renounced. This process of linking everything with God is a form of yoga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theist Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 No need to renounce pleasure such as you described. Arjuna when praying to Him called Him the all-pervading beauty. Krsna consciousness is about enhancing our appreciation of beauty infinitely and without end. The way to do that is to come to the point that we see Krsna in the sunset and everywhere else as well. In the beginning where we are we are trying to raise our idea of what pleasure is. The pig who eats stool has his standard of what makes up pleasure and humanity now days is becoming similar in what it considers to be pleasure. So we need to renounce lower pleasure as we make room for higher ones. Eventually becoming eternally emmersed in a loving relationship with the most beautiful,attractive and pleasurable Sri Krsna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Thank you theist, you have inspired me to go outside right now and chant, Gauuraaanga Krishna in the beautiful morning Krishna sun. NG dasa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pankaja_Dasa Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 My devotee friend always tells me 'I am not this mind'. But am a Soul? Then I ask what kind of soul? He says I'm eternal servant of Krishna. Not my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilaav r. ardnaqq Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 How far should pain go before a 'pleasure' is experienced to balance it? When I was living in Chapel Hill, I was invited to live at New Goloka, and was told that there would only be cold showers there. . .about a year ago, I came to the point where I was ready to try giving up warm showers and baths. I have always been an anxious person, and warm baths relax me; when I began taking only cold baths and showers, I developed very high anxiety, nearly to panic. Warm baths seem natural enough-can it not be a form of therapy? I endeavor to understand (paraphrased) that the pure devotee is affected neither by heat nor cold . ..but should this be a highly anxious experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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