something I heard..

[Pankaja_Dasa]

 

If you have instructions from your Guru or Spiritual Master then even if you are away from Him and not in His phizical presence it is still the same. Because Guru is like Krsna He is Omnipresent. So says there is no need to worry or think Guru is not there. He can see exactly what your doing.

[Guest guest]

 

If you have instructions from your Guru or Spiritual Master then even if you are away from Him and not in His phizical presence it is still the same. Because Guru is like Krsna He is Omnipresent. So says there is no need to worry or think Guru is not there. He can see exactly what your doing.

jaya

[Pankaja_Dasa]

Guru is representative of Krishna, plus Guru is within your heart as Paramatma. So there you go. Two Guru's but they are the same, one external Guru acting as representative of internal Guru, and internal Guru is there to see your are serving external Guru, who is Pure Vaishnava.

[Guest guest]

Is the external Guru Omnipresent?

[Beggar]

Srila Narayana Maharaja: Some persons doubt that Srila Bhaktivedanta Swami Maharaja was tri-kalajna, omniscient. They question that if he was omniscient, how could he have given the renounced order to so many disciples who have either fallen down or will fall down very soon. They say that it seems as though he never knew what would transpire in the future. Many ISKCON leaders are thinking that he was not omniscient, and that is why he gave sannyasa to many who later went to hell.

Those who think that he was not omniscient or that he made mistakes are wrong. They are totally wrong. They are not initiated in the real sense, and they cannot understand things properly because they are not associated with any high class of Vaisnava.

You are familiar with the history of Sri Ramacandra. Sita saw a deer grazing and She requested Rama to capture it. Rama then followed the deer for miles and miles, and finally He shot it. That deer was the demon Marica, and as he was dying he called out in Rama's voice, "O Laksmana! Save me! Save me!" As a result of this incident, Sita was kidnapped by Ravana.

Rama is omniscient. Why did He not know beforehand that Sita would be stolen by Ravana if He would pursue the deer? Why could He not have known? Why did He have to send Hanuman and others to search for Sita? Laksmana is akanda-guru-tattva, the personified principle of undivided or complete guru. Why did he leave Sita and then have to search for her?

In this regard one may also doubt Krsna and question: Why did Krsna do so wrong? Why could He not have warned the young Yadus when they presented the so-called pregnant 'girl' before the sages? Did He not know that the incident would later be the cause of the Yadus' fighting together and killing each other? If He knew, why did He not warn them? He could have prevented them all from dying.

Krsna knew, and Ramacandra knew. They both knew everything, but They were engaged in naravat-lila, human-like pastimes, playing the role of human beings. Whatever They did was for the welfare of the universe. Srila Swami Maharaja is a manifestation of Krsna, and whatever he did was also for the welfare of all. Foolish persons cannot reconcile all these things. Such persons are fallen souls. They are not actually sannyasis.

[Guest guest]

 

Is the external Guru Omnipresent?

I do not know the answer to your question. But I do know that the inner Guru will impress the instructions of the external Guru upon your heart, thus guiding you very nicely. So as Pankaja dasa expressed in the previous post, the internal and external guru work very closely together.

 

ng dasa

[Jagi]

Srila Prabhupada ki jai!

[Beggar]

Srila Sridhar Maharaja said:

 

"I consider him (Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada) saktyavesa-avatara, and it is confirmed in his writings on his spiritual journey through the Atlantic. How he landed there in America, and the nature of his beginning the movement. His intense degree of dedication to Krsna and dependence, (on Krishna) and how much he made himself empty of any other desire than the order of his gurudeva, quite empty that Krsna came down to help him.

 

And it is corroborated that Krsna worked on his behalf. In his poem, "Prayer to the Lotus Feet of Krsna," we find him pleading with Krsna, "My dear Brother, Your good fortune will come to you only when Srimati Radharani becomes pleased with you." Seeing his gurudeva, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati, as Radharani's delegation and his order as Her divine service, he humbly submitted that he did not feel himself worthy or fit to discharge the divine service, so he enlisted Krsna in the service of his guru. He had completely dedicated himself to the purpose, he was so earnest in his prayer to Krsna that he may discharge the duty that he has been given by his Guru Maharaja, that divine force, power, came down to help him. Otherwise, it is impossible. It is not a thing of the ordinary level that anyone can do--take the highest thing [Krsna consciousness] to the lowest position [fallen souls] so extensively. It cannot but be the divine power, embodied and in a great intensity and magnitude! So, saktyavesa-avatara, I cannot but take him to be so."

 

{"And when asked by his disciple (Govinda Maharaja) what was the avesa (particular type of empowerment) that Srila Prabhupada exhibited, Sridhar Maharaja replied Nityanandavesa. The compassionate power of Nitai to deliver the most-fallen."} (This part's from Brahma Prabhu's article on VNN -June 27, 2002 VNN7405 as is the quote of Srila Sridhar Maharaja )