what happened during the Gita discourse

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What do you think was happening when Krishna was discussing Gita with Arjuna in the battlefield.

 

What do you think others in the field were doing ? Were they also listening or they were just waiting for Arjuna to start the battle.

 

I wish to know what happened to the rest during that time.

 

 

 

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Lord Krishna clearly states in the Gita that He is Time Itself. When

Krishna stopped at the battlefield to appraiseArujna of the situation,

Time must have certainly come to a stop.If someone could have timed

the recitation of the Gita, one could figure out how the Gita was

spoken to Arjuna at such a time. I have heard a recitation of the Gita

fully in sanskrit and it takes 2-3 hours, however The Lord teaches

through the Heart, so it must have been a real fast transmission of

knowledge between Arjuna and Krishna. The Gita as we know it is

through the observation of the entire episode by Sri Krishna Dvaipanya

Vyasa, the writer of the Gita, and by Sanjaya ( who was also blessed

by Lord Krishna to witness everything and relate it to Dhritarashtra),

so this is always going to be our reference, but for Arjuna, the Gita

was a direct transmission, we just have copies.It is impossible to

percieve what Arjuna percieved, however hard we may try to put

ourselves in his place. Maybe if we get the association and mercy of

Arjuna we can get to see what he saw.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Drar Sanjeev,

 

With all due respect, your post is filled with speculation.

 

<<< Lord Krishna clearly states in the Gita that He is Time Itself. When

Krishna stopped at the battlefield to appraiseArujna of the situation,

Time must have certainly come to a stop. >>>

 

What is your source for this?

 

Time certainly did not come to a stop. As the discourse was on, everyone on both sides listened and listerned with 'rapt' attention.

 

<<< It is impossible to percieve what Arjuna percieved, however hard we may try to put ourselves in his place. >>>

 

Why is it impossible? The message of the Gita applies to everyone as it is timeless. By the mercy of the Spiritual Master, one can certainly perceive it to the fullest.

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Was the Geeta really told on the battlefield ?

Dear All ,

This is a question which I am often asked . The people who are asking the

question generally do not believe that such a big book could have been told

on the battle field and must have been written in some cosy study room .

>From this it follows that the Mahabharat war did not really happen and it

all forms part of the mythology of ancient India .  In this article  I am

going to evaluate if it was possible to recite the Geeta on the battlefield

..

We need to decide our frame of reference and that frame of reference has to

be set in the time when the incident might have occurred. The following

points need to be taken into account .

1. Sanskrit was the common language of communication at that time . So they

were as conversant with Sanskrit as today we are in the use of say English

language .

2. Both Krishna and Arjun have known each other for long years and were

intimate friends . Thus they knew intimately the styles of speech of each

other and understood well .

3.The two warring armies were getting organized on the battlefield which is

a very wide flat area . There would be a distance of at least one kilometer

between the two armies and nobody would attack the formations without the

commandant's order . That would be harakiri . A similarity can be seen even

today when armies make formation in the eyeview of each other but out of the

range of rifle bullets . Nobody attacks or ambushes each other while the

formation is being made .

4. The noise and din of the battlefield is no deterrent to carry out

conversation between two people . The noise levels in the cities are quite

high still we see many people carrying out meaningful conversations on the

streets , in the trains , near cement mills , or in open autorickshaws .

5. The Geeta is a conversation between two friends . A number of references

which others may have to seek , are already present there . For example , at

one place Shrikrishna is referring to Sankhya yoga . What Sankhya yoga is ,

Arjuna knows so no explanation is necessary for Arjuna . For a lay person ,

however , a big explanation is necessary to understand the concept.

The Geeta as we see today consists of 700 couplets . These are equivalent to

1400 lines . That translates into say about 8400 words . The advertisements

for steno typists generally ask for 60/120 this means 60 words per minute

typing speed and 120 words per minute for shorthand . This in turn means a

person is able to speak about 120 words a minute which are comprehensible

even to a non technical steno .  If you listen to speeches you will see that

a good speaker makes to about 200 words a minute easily. Taking this speed

into consideration the whole of Geeta conversation would take about

forty-two minutes . This is about the period of Ghatikadwaya - two ghatikas

are given to the commanders to arrange their formations and in two ghatikas

the conversation took place after which the war started .

So it is entirely possible that the Geeta conversation took place on the

battlefield .

Regards ,

Anand