Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 sumthing in the Vedic religion I do not understand, that i cannot comprehend: 1. why have God (Krsna) created or allowed creation of alcohol, if one drinks it u will go to hell? its like having candy on a table, and the child gets tempted, but if he eats it he will get punished, any smart parent will then hide the candy.. it like in the christian creation myth, God tells adam and eve that they may NOT taste the apple in the garden, but He didnt give them knowledge of right and wrong, but after they ate the apple they understod what they did.. its ilogical and stupid.. the next thing is.. 2. in the vedas, both shiva and visnu are God, but the shaivites say shiva is God and the vaisnavas say that visnu is God, why have sumthing in a scripture that is contradicting it self? are shiva or visnu God or both are the same side of the coin? are visnu and shiva only 2 aspects in the mind of God? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 The experiment is simple. One only learns and retains through one's own experiences and mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 The experiment is simple. One only learns and retains through one's own experiences and mistakes. this wasnt any answer to my question.. pseudo-wisdom in all honour, but please read what i asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yegan Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 1. why have God (Krsna) created or allowed creation of alcohol, if one drinks it u will go to hell? Because once we had the desire to have full mastery on everything and enjoy to the max without krishna. So krishna creates the material existence to sort of satisfy our desires. Alcohol, sex, meat eating, gambling etc are all enjoyment which we have wanted and been granted by the Lord. However GOD knows that these illusionary enjoyment would only create suffering because our true blisful enjoyment is to be with him, therefore he made it clear via scriptures that alcohol for example would cause us harm(+ there is bad karma associated to intoxication), but yet available for our enjoyment only because we so desired. Could krishna not made intoxication, karma free for us to satisfy our desire? - He could for certain but then who among us would bother to return to GOD and enjoy the most blisful form of enjoyment. These illusionary enjoyment on earth is so enticing(intoxication, sex, etc) that we cant even bother enjoying something superior. Just imagine now how much more pleasurable we would feel when in spiritual skies. So making intoxication sinful is in fact helping us to taste something superior and infinitely more pleasurable in nature, but at the same time alcohol is available to us because it was what we desired once. 2. An advanced knowledgable person might help you on this issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 on the subject of alcohol and sex, why did he make it so enticing if its forbidden? wouldnt it be better if it are revolting and so people will fall of from it.. its still illogical.. arent the sin more in drinking and getting addictive so one become an disturbance in society then accually drink the substance..? its still like my example with the child and candy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Maya is supposed to be attractive to the jiva. Krishna Consciousness is the higher taste though - Bhagavad-gita As It Is : 2.59 "The embodied soul may be restricted from sense enjoyment, though the taste for sense objects remains. But, ceasing such engagements by experiencing a higher taste, he is fixed in consciousness." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2006 Report Share Posted April 18, 2006 Maya is supposed to be attractive to the jiva. Krishna Consciousness is the higher taste though - Bhagavad-gita As It Is : 2.59 "The embodied soul may be restricted from sense enjoyment, though the taste for sense objects remains. But, ceasing such engagements by experiencing a higher taste, he is fixed in consciousness." but if the higher taste where more tastefull, why do more people rather drink then servere God? this is illogical to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Different levels of consciousness. Not everyone is ready for Krishna just yet. But some people are, and they just don't know it - this is why book distribution is so important. For people who are ready, by meeting a devotee they can be pulled out of the tide of the modes and come to Krishna Consciousness. For those who aren't, just meeting a devotee and seeing and hearing about Krishna from a simple exchange can change there futures lives dramatically. Bhagavad-gita 7:3 - "Out of many thousands among men, one may endeavor for perfection" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekozuki Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 If sex was revolting do you think we would last long as a species? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renuka Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 sumthing in the Vedic religion I do not understand, that i cannot comprehend: 1. why have God (Krsna) created or allowed creation of alcohol, if one drinks it u will go to hell? First of all we need to understand that God is a person. He is the Supreme Person and is dealing with persons like us. God doesnot expect anything material from us. Infact we dont own anything to give Him. He only expects devotion from us. Devotion is a higher form of love and affection. If someone was to ask you to love him at gun point would you be able to love him? No one can love by force. It has to come on its own accord springing from attraction. Same way God is giving us the freedom to choose by providing facilities according to our desires.It is up to us to choose God or Sense enjoyment. This is His way of respecting our individuality. If this choice was not provided He would be a mere dictator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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