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Hari OM blessed selves.

My paramaguru, Satyananda Saraswati (Bihar), has said that very

few beings have ever had complete faith or devotion. He even

wondered, long after he became a paramahamsa, whether or not he had

yet been "accepted" as a spiritual seeker. I find this

incredibly poignant and human.

It occurs to me that the urge to define the "spiritual

seeker," at least in the hands of such as myself, might just

serve to fuel more self image formation. We might think upon reading a

particular definition: Oh! I'll never measure up. Or, I'm really doing

great! And most of us want some definitions to give us a sense

of direction and the safety of imagining an end to the "path."

e.g. When I have perfect devotion, then I'll really have it!

We probably need definitions at various points, just like practice

with form usually precedes formless practice. So I guess I've

ended up saying that definitions serve a purpose as long as we

don't become attached to them.

OM Tat Sat

Lalita

Namaste,

With all my heart, after considering the question, I have my

answer...

Complete faith and devotion to the Guru.

Jesse Arana (Kailash)

www.meditationinfocus.com

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first of all, thank you Shree Maa and Swamiji for your shining

inspiration!

 

I like the way you phrased your answer, Lalita: definitions are

useful as long as we don't get attached to them.

 

In that spirit, I will answer the quesiton in this way: as I have

trod the path so far, the most important quality has been LOVE. Not

prema, yet, but the nearly-obsessive, eighth-grade crush kind of

love the Divine Mother's grace has allowed me to feel for Her.

>From such love comes shraddha, courage, steadfastness...even jnana

and vijnana. (I'm not there yet, BTW!)

 

This discussion group is a great blessing--thank you all for being

here.

HH

 

, lalita624@e... wrote:

> Hari OM blessed selves.

>

> My paramaguru, Satyananda Saraswati (Bihar), has said that very

few

> beings have ever had complete faith or devotion. He even

wondered,

> long after he became a paramahamsa, whether or not he had yet been

> "accepted" as a spiritual seeker. I find this incredibly poignant

and

> human.

>

> It occurs to me that the urge to define the "spiritual seeker,"

at

> least in the hands of such as myself, might just serve to fuel

more

> self image formation. We might think upon reading a particular

> definition: Oh! I'll never measure up. Or, I'm really doing great!

> And most of us want some definitions to give us a sense of

direction

> and the safety of imagining an end to the "path." e.g. When I have

> perfect devotion, then I'll really have it! We probably need

> definitions at various points, just like practice with form

usually

> precedes formless practice. So I guess I've ended up saying that

> definitions serve a purpose as long as we don't become attached

to

> them.

>

> OM Tat Sat

>

> Lalita

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Namaste Lalita-Ji,

 

Your point is exactly what I was hoping to make: that definitions serve a

functionaly purpose, but are not in themselves the "whole" truth. My guru in

Advaita/Vajrayana Traktung Khepa Rimpoche taught me a Padmasambhava / Yeshe

Tsogyel practice ten years ago that ends, "Guru and Disciple GONE....

Ahhhhhhhh."

 

Man, the first time I sang that line was a defining moment in my introduction

to non-dual View.

 

Sending Love... Ahhhhhh,

 

Jesse Arana (Kailash)

www.meditationinfocus.com

> Hari OM blessed selves.

>

> My paramaguru, Satyananda Saraswati (Bihar), has said that very few

> beings have ever had complete faith or devotion. He even wondered,

> long after he became a paramahamsa, whether or not he had yet been

> "accepted" as a spiritual seeker. I find this incredibly poignant and

> human.

>

> It occurs to me that the urge to define the "spiritual seeker," at

> least in the hands of such as myself, might just serve to fuel more

> self image formation. We might think upon reading a particular

> definition: Oh! I'll never measure up. Or, I'm really doing great!

> And most of us want some definitions to give us a sense of direction

> and the safety of imagining an end to the "path." e.g. When I have

> perfect devotion, then I'll really have it! We probably need

> definitions at various points, just like practice with form usually

> precedes formless practice. So I guess I've ended up saying that

> definitions serve a purpose as long as we don't become attached to

> them.

>

> OM Tat Sat

>

> Lalita

>

> >Namaste,

> >

> >With all my heart, after considering the question, I have my answer...

> >

> >Complete faith and devotion to the Guru.

> >

> >Jesse Arana (Kailash)

> >www.meditationinfocus.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Your use of is subject to

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