Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Swamiji Maharaj (Swami Satyananda Sarasvathi) says Chanda and Munda signify Anger and Passion. As for anger the meaning is obvious but may I know what Swamiji means by passion. Is passion different from desire ? What distiguishes both? Jai Maa!! The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 get happy. Joy comes from within, without something happening to the person from the outside. It is self sustaining. They often look the same. Anger is like happiness, it usually gets triggered from something external, where I see passion as something that is more driven from inside. These too often look the same. When one crosses a boundary in our lives, we get angry. When we are attached to something, we can be passionate. Of course anger is passionate too. Also, anger can be covert and that is something sadhaka's should be on the lookout for. Grudges, withholding, getting even, ignoring, abandonment, rejection are all acts that stem from anger or a wound that needs to be healed and forgiven. I don't think anger is a huge bad guy as it is a great teacher in itself as long as we are becoming aware of who we are. We all have boundaries, even Guru's, and anytime one is stepped over, expect a reaction that stems from anger even covert anger. It shows us, "Hey, I have a boundary.. Let me look at this boundary more close and see if it serves my path or doesn't. Why do I have that boundary? What will happen if I let it go? What is my payoff for having this boundary?" This can tell us alot about our healthy boundaries vs. our unhealthy boundaries. Passion for 'things' or even spiritual materialism is usually the greed to accumulate. This is based of the belief that we feel we are not enough with out it. Passion for God, sadhana or freedom are sattvic passions and will help one to succeed. I have a feeling that in the sanskrit language the words for passion and anger probably have more subtle meanings than our own vocabulary in english and probably have meaning that is more descriptive of the negative attachments of those emotions. That is just my guess. Namaste. kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 > wrote: Namaste Mataji, Swamiji Maharaj (Swami Satyananda Sarasvathi) says Chanda and Munda signify Anger and Passion. As for anger the meaning is obvious but may I know what Swamiji means by passion. Is passion different from desire ? What distiguishes both? Jai Maa!! The New with improved product search To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to the The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2003 Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 Thank you for sharing your insights as well. I recall Swamiji Maharaj saying ( if I am not wrong in Preface of Chandi Path) any good translation could not run from the translators own language understanding and spritual culmination (in minimal sense) . I beleive that is why doing sadhana and contemplating on the scriptural work becomes very important to cast your own understanding on them Nevertheless the meaning also changes according to the text it is placed , i.e. I realised the words being translated with slight difference in Kali Saharanama ( Kali Puja book) and also Chandi Path despite being the same word. Thus I agree with Kellyji that the word passion (Munda) might mean more in Sanskrit Can other members and Swamiji (where sanskrit interpretation is concern ) also shed some light on this matter ? Jai Maa!!Kelly Leeper <blissnout > wrote: Happiness is what happens to one when something happens to them and they get happy. Joy comes from within, without something happening to the person from the outside. It is self sustaining. They often look the same. Anger is like happiness, it usually gets triggered from something external, where I see passion as something that is more driven from inside. These too often look the same. When one crosses a boundary in our lives, we get angry. When we are attached to something, we can be passionate. Of course anger is passionate too. Also, anger can be covert and that is something sadhaka's should be on the lookout for. Grudges, withholding, getting even, ignoring, abandonment, rejection are all acts that stem from anger or a wound that needs to be healed and forgiven. I don't think anger is a huge bad guy as it is a great teacher in itself as long as we are becoming aware of who we are. We all have boundaries, even Guru's, and anytime one is stepped over, expect a reaction that stems from anger even covert anger. It shows us, "Hey, I have a boundary.. Let me look at this boundary more close and see if it serves my path or doesn't. Why do I have that boundary? What will happen if I let it go? What is my payoff for having this boundary?" This can tell us alot about our healthy boundaries vs. our unhealthy boundaries. Passion for 'things' or even spiritual materialism is usually the greed to accumulate. This is based of the belief that we feel we are not enough with out it. Passion for God, sadhana or freedom are sattvic passions and will help one to succeed. I have a feeling that in the sanskrit language the words for passion and anger probably have more subtle meanings than our own vocabulary in english and probably have meaning that is more descriptive of the negative attachments of those emotions. That is just my guess. Namaste. kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 > wrote: Namaste Mataji, Swamiji Maharaj (Swami Satyananda Sarasvathi) says Chanda and Munda signify Anger and Passion. As for anger the meaning is obvious but may I know what Swamiji means by passion. Is passion different from desire ? What distiguishes both? Jai Maa!! The New with improved product search To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to the The New with improved product search To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to the The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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