Guest guest Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 Swamiji explained that the vrats, like the 16 Mondays was written by Brahmins priests about 200-400 years ago. They were written for the common people, kind of like a folktale. The Rishis did not write vrats. They revealed the Vedas. Rishi means seer, or to see as Ishwara sees. R in sanskrit means to see again and ish comes from the word Ishwara which means to see without limitation. A rishi is one who perceives again as Ishwara. Although the story might make us feel culturally distance, i t has uplifting values to the common man. The idea behind the vrat is that the person performing it becomes transformed in the process. Since the common folk did not perform tapasya as outlined in the Vedas, the vrats were and are a way to help people cultivate their relationship to divinity. Personally I have performed the 16 Monday Vrat on several different occasions and found that everytime it helped to cultivate more love and devotion. I would highly recommend anyone to undertake such a sankalpa. It can be quite transformational and Lord Shiva is the Great Transformer. A vrat can be performed to help you or others overcome obstacles or difficulties as well as for the cultivation of pure love and devotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Pranams. I was just coming home from work wondering if I were going to recieve any more information on this topic and I signed on to 46 emails! That's what happens when you a miss a day:) Please tell Swami thanks on this explanation. It clarifies alot for me. My faith in the Rishis are restored:) Basically, no one has been able to explain this for me yet and so I'm very glad to know the vrat was written after the 'rishi' period. There's a part of me that thinks studying sanskrit would be very useful for me, that way I could absorb the teachings directly. Someone mentioned that Rama and Sita ate beef and drank liquor and sex was apart of their life too. I was told that the Brahmins came in and took out parts of the scripture that would confuse the people, or common people. Did this really happen? I asked my boyfriend and he said it's still in there, but not very many have knowledge of reading or interpreting sanskrit so it's really only there for those who can understand it. Can Swami explain more on this? Many gospels were left out of the Bible because they would be greatly misunderstood because the esoteric is veiled and most would think the Veil was it instead of the lure to look deeper. Can Swami mention which scriptures have had certain parts omitted or changed? Can Swami discuss abit more on the why's of eating beef and drinking liquor by Sita and Rama? Jai Maa! Kellyparvati_saraswati <parvati_saraswati > wrote: Swamiji explained that the vrats, like the 16 Mondays was written by Brahmins priests about 200-400 years ago. They were written for the common people, kind of like a folktale. The Rishis did not write vrats. They revealed the Vedas. Rishi means seer, or to see as Ishwara sees. R in sanskrit means to see again and ish comes from the word Ishwara which means to see without limitation. A rishi is one who perceives again as Ishwara. Although the story might make us feel culturally distance, i t has uplifting values to the common man. The idea behind the vrat is that the person performing it becomes transformed in the process. Since the common folk did not perform tapasya as outlined in the Vedas, the vrats were and are a way to help people cultivate their relationship to divinity.Personally I have performed the 16 Monday Vrat on several different occasions and found that everytime it helped to cultivate more love and devotion. I would highly recommend anyone to undertake such a sankalpa. It can be quite transformational and Lord Shiva is the Great Transformer. A vrat can be performed to help you or others overcome obstacles or difficulties as well as for the cultivation of pure love and devotion.To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to the Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 Kelly, Is there just one version of Ramayan? There are thousands. For how many years was it passed in oral traditions before different sages and then later others wrote down their versions? Who can say what They did now except those that knew/know Them. Jai Sita Ram! - Kelly Leeper Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:59 PM Re: clarification on 16 Mondays Parvati, Pranams. I was just coming home from work wondering if I were going to recieve any more information on this topic and I signed on to 46 emails! That's what happens when you a miss a day:) Please tell Swami thanks on this explanation. It clarifies alot for me. My faith in the Rishis are restored:) Basically, no one has been able to explain this for me yet and so I'm very glad to know the vrat was written after the 'rishi' period. There's a part of me that thinks studying sanskrit would be very useful for me, that way I could absorb the teachings directly. Someone mentioned that Rama and Sita ate beef and drank liquor and sex was apart of their life too. I was told that the Brahmins came in and took out parts of the scripture that would confuse the people, or common people. Did this really happen? I asked my boyfriend and he said it's still in there, but not very many have knowledge of reading or interpreting sanskrit so it's really only there for those who can understand it. Can Swami explain more on this? Many gospels were left out of the Bible because they would be greatly misunderstood because the esoteric is veiled and most would think the Veil was it instead of the lure to look deeper. Can Swami mention which scriptures have had certain parts omitted or changed? Can Swami discuss abit more on the why's of eating beef and drinking liquor by Sita and Rama? Jai Maa! Kellyparvati_saraswati <parvati_saraswati > wrote: Swamiji explained that the vrats, like the 16 Mondays was written by Brahmins priests about 200-400 years ago. They were written for the common people, kind of like a folktale. The Rishis did not write vrats. They revealed the Vedas. Rishi means seer, or to see as Ishwara sees. R in sanskrit means to see again and ish comes from the word Ishwara which means to see without limitation. A rishi is one who perceives again as Ishwara. Although the story might make us feel culturally distance, i t has uplifting values to the common man. The idea behind the vrat is that the person performing it becomes transformed in the process. Since the common folk did not perform tapasya as outlined in the Vedas, the vrats were and are a way to help people cultivate their relationship to divinity.Personally I have performed the 16 Monday Vrat on several different occasions and found that everytime it helped to cultivate more love and devotion. I would highly recommend anyone to undertake such a sankalpa. It can be quite transformational and Lord Shiva is the Great Transformer. A vrat can be performed to help you or others overcome obstacles or difficulties as well as for the cultivation of pure love and devotion.To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to the Protect your identity with Mail AddressGuard To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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