Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

the path of sound

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

We are here in cyberspace, "talking" or writing, putting our thoughts down

in words--and I was thinking about Swamiji's teaching the other day

about sound--actually the path of sound, how sound can bring us to God.

It gave me a tiny insight about chanting--another sense of the purpose

of that sadhana--why do we chant, especially Sanskrit?

Our path, with our gurus, is that of sadhana, spiritual practice, and bhakta,

devotion, and since we have these reflecting minds, we may ask, "why?"

 

I fell in love with my gurus, and that placed me at the beginning; I am still in

love with my gurus, and with God, and I continue to chant, and have fallen in

love with that too; but I want to know more--why do we chant, and in this way?

 

I know that one purpose is for focus on God and control of the mind; but more

specifically....

 

Swamiji said:

Botikashabdha are words about the world--words most of us use every day

and take for granted; but, if we focus our sound towards greater wisdom, there

are

Jnanshabdha, words of knowledge, and

Vaidashabda, words of wisdom

These are teachings from the gurus, from the scriptures, words of perceptive

insight about God, about the way of things

 

These are words, too, in the scriptures of Sanskrit we chant;

within these shlokas, themselves mantras, are

 

(smaller) mantras, shortened sounds, like the mantras we use to

bring us further into meditation (he had lots to say about just this)

 

The mantras are made of bija mantras - these are the closest approximations

or the audible expressions of some meaning (such as aim or sam; or even ka,

or ra)

 

The bijas are made of the naada, which is the subtle body of sound, the

vibration, not audible, essentially

 

Within the naad is the bindu - one point of sound, and the first sound of

the entire field of possibilities

 

Within that is shabda brahma, the infinite expression of God; (the

closest audible expression we have of that is Om)

 

it's always so beautiful to me to hear Swamiji's knowledge, once again

reminding us of our purpose, why we do things--and, that there

ARE things that we can do, can practice, in our every day lives that

truly bring us closer that that which we love the most

Jai Swamiji

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It IS so beautiful to hear Swamiji's knowledge!

Thank you so much for sharing it. The next best thing to hearing it myself is

hearing all about it from you wonderful people!

 

Love Rosie

 

 

, "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma> wrote:

> We are here in cyberspace, "talking" or writing, putting our thoughts down

> in words--and I was thinking about Swamiji's teaching the other day

> about sound--actually the path of sound, how sound can bring us to God.

> It gave me a tiny insight about chanting--another sense of the purpose

> of that sadhana--why do we chant, especially Sanskrit?

> Our path, with our gurus, is that of sadhana, spiritual practice, and bhakta,

> devotion, and since we have these reflecting minds, we may ask, "why?"

>

> I fell in love with my gurus, and that placed me at the beginning; I am still

in

> love with my gurus, and with God, and I continue to chant, and have fallen in

> love with that too; but I want to know more--why do we chant, and in this

way?

>

> I know that one purpose is for focus on God and control of the mind; but

more

> specifically....

>

> Swamiji said:

> Botikashabdha are words about the world--words most of us use every day

> and take for granted; but, if we focus our sound towards greater wisdom,

there

> are

> Jnanshabdha, words of knowledge, and

> Vaidashabda, words of wisdom

> These are teachings from the gurus, from the scriptures, words of perceptive

> insight about God, about the way of things

>

> These are words, too, in the scriptures of Sanskrit we chant;

> within these shlokas, themselves mantras, are

>

> (smaller) mantras, shortened sounds, like the mantras we use to

> bring us further into meditation (he had lots to say about just this)

>

> The mantras are made of bija mantras - these are the closest

approximations

> or the audible expressions of some meaning (such as aim or sam; or even

ka,

> or ra)

>

> The bijas are made of the naada, which is the subtle body of sound, the

> vibration, not audible, essentially

>

> Within the naad is the bindu - one point of sound, and the first sound of

> the entire field of possibilities

>

> Within that is shabda brahma, the infinite expression of God; (the

> closest audible expression we have of that is Om)

>

> it's always so beautiful to me to hear Swamiji's knowledge, once again

> reminding us of our purpose, why we do things--and, that there

> ARE things that we can do, can practice, in our every day lives that

> truly bring us closer that that which we love the most

> Jai Swamiji

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Dearest Nitya_Ma,

 

Thanks for sharing.

 

What I find particularly interesting is Swamiji's definition of

Botikashabdha "words about the world--words most of us use every day

and take for granted".

 

This brings to mind Sutra 4 of the Kasyapa Sutras ("Shree Maa Guru

and the Goddess" by Swami Satyananda Saraswati).

In the Bija mantras for positive qualities, one can find words like

am (immortality /joy), sum (pleasure / comfort), sat (truth), mum

(freedom). I have for years used all of these words, especially

mum, --a pet name for mother or to indicate silence -- completely

ignorant of their greater use, which is to rid the self of certain

negatives.

 

Also, as a child one is taught that if not telling truth then it is

untruth, the Sutras teach us that Truth has no negatives.

 

Thank you Swamiji!

Thank you Nitya-Ma!

 

 

Jai Maa!

 

 

 

 

 

, "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma> wrote:

> We are here in cyberspace, "talking" or writing, putting our

thoughts down

> in words--and I was thinking about Swamiji's teaching the other day

> about sound--actually the path of sound, how sound can bring us to

God.

> It gave me a tiny insight about chanting--another sense of the

purpose

> of that sadhana--why do we chant, especially Sanskrit?

> Our path, with our gurus, is that of sadhana, spiritual practice,

and bhakta,

> devotion, and since we have these reflecting minds, we may

ask, "why?"

>

> I fell in love with my gurus, and that placed me at the beginning;

I am still in

> love with my gurus, and with God, and I continue to chant, and have

fallen in

> love with that too; but I want to know more--why do we chant, and

in this way?

>

> I know that one purpose is for focus on God and control of the

mind; but more

> specifically....

>

> Swamiji said:

> Botikashabdha are words about the world--words most of us use every

day

> and take for granted; but, if we focus our sound towards greater

wisdom, there

> are

> Jnanshabdha, words of knowledge, and

> Vaidashabda, words of wisdom

> These are teachings from the gurus, from the scriptures, words of

perceptive

> insight about God, about the way of things

>

> These are words, too, in the scriptures of Sanskrit we chant;

> within these shlokas, themselves mantras, are

>

> (smaller) mantras, shortened sounds, like the mantras we use to

> bring us further into meditation (he had lots to say about just

this)

>

> The mantras are made of bija mantras - these are the closest

approximations

> or the audible expressions of some meaning (such as aim or sam; or

even ka,

> or ra)

>

> The bijas are made of the naada, which is the subtle body of sound,

the

> vibration, not audible, essentially

>

> Within the naad is the bindu - one point of sound, and the first

sound of

> the entire field of possibilities

>

> Within that is shabda brahma, the infinite expression of God; (the

> closest audible expression we have of that is Om)

>

> it's always so beautiful to me to hear Swamiji's knowledge, once

again

> reminding us of our purpose, why we do things--and, that there

> ARE things that we can do, can practice, in our every day lives that

> truly bring us closer that that which we love the most

> Jai Swamiji

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nitya Ma,

I was hoping someone would bring up the topic of the Matrika Shakti.

The entire Universe is made from sound. I want to know more!

 

Astraea

 

, "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma> wrote:

> We are here in cyberspace, "talking" or writing, putting our

thoughts down

> in words--and I was thinking about Swamiji's teaching the other day

> about sound--actually the path of sound, how sound can bring us to

God.

> It gave me a tiny insight about chanting--another sense of the

purpose

> of that sadhana--why do we chant, especially Sanskrit?

> Our path, with our gurus, is that of sadhana, spiritual practice,

and bhakta,

> devotion, and since we have these reflecting minds, we may

ask, "why?"

>

> I fell in love with my gurus, and that placed me at the beginning;

I am still in

> love with my gurus, and with God, and I continue to chant, and have

fallen in

> love with that too; but I want to know more--why do we chant, and

in this way?

>

> I know that one purpose is for focus on God and control of the

mind; but more

> specifically....

>

> Swamiji said:

> Botikashabdha are words about the world--words most of us use every

day

> and take for granted; but, if we focus our sound towards greater

wisdom, there

> are

> Jnanshabdha, words of knowledge, and

> Vaidashabda, words of wisdom

> These are teachings from the gurus, from the scriptures, words of

perceptive

> insight about God, about the way of things

>

> These are words, too, in the scriptures of Sanskrit we chant;

> within these shlokas, themselves mantras, are

>

> (smaller) mantras, shortened sounds, like the mantras we use to

> bring us further into meditation (he had lots to say about just

this)

>

> The mantras are made of bija mantras - these are the closest

approximations

> or the audible expressions of some meaning (such as aim or sam; or

even ka,

> or ra)

>

> The bijas are made of the naada, which is the subtle body of sound,

the

> vibration, not audible, essentially

>

> Within the naad is the bindu - one point of sound, and the first

sound of

> the entire field of possibilities

>

> Within that is shabda brahma, the infinite expression of God; (the

> closest audible expression we have of that is Om)

>

> it's always so beautiful to me to hear Swamiji's knowledge, once

again

> reminding us of our purpose, why we do things--and, that there

> ARE things that we can do, can practice, in our every day lives that

> truly bring us closer that that which we love the most

> Jai Swamiji

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nitya Ma,

 

So much is not written, but only transmitted orally. You are so very

fortunate to be there to receive it.

 

Chris

 

 

, "nitya_ma" <nitya_ma> wrote:

> We are here in cyberspace, "talking" or writing, putting our

thoughts down

> in words--and I was thinking about Swamiji's teaching the other day

> about sound--actually the path of sound, how sound can bring us to

God.

> It gave me a tiny insight about chanting--another sense of the

purpose

> of that sadhana--why do we chant, especially Sanskrit?

> Our path, with our gurus, is that of sadhana, spiritual practice,

and bhakta,

> devotion, and since we have these reflecting minds, we may

ask, "why?"

>

> I fell in love with my gurus, and that placed me at the beginning;

I am still in

> love with my gurus, and with God, and I continue to chant, and have

fallen in

> love with that too; but I want to know more--why do we chant, and

in this way?

>

> I know that one purpose is for focus on God and control of the

mind; but more

> specifically....

>

> Swamiji said:

> Botikashabdha are words about the world--words most of us use every

day

> and take for granted; but, if we focus our sound towards greater

wisdom, there

> are

> Jnanshabdha, words of knowledge, and

> Vaidashabda, words of wisdom

> These are teachings from the gurus, from the scriptures, words of

perceptive

> insight about God, about the way of things

>

> These are words, too, in the scriptures of Sanskrit we chant;

> within these shlokas, themselves mantras, are

>

> (smaller) mantras, shortened sounds, like the mantras we use to

> bring us further into meditation (he had lots to say about just

this)

>

> The mantras are made of bija mantras - these are the closest

approximations

> or the audible expressions of some meaning (such as aim or sam; or

even ka,

> or ra)

>

> The bijas are made of the naada, which is the subtle body of sound,

the

> vibration, not audible, essentially

>

> Within the naad is the bindu - one point of sound, and the first

sound of

> the entire field of possibilities

>

> Within that is shabda brahma, the infinite expression of God; (the

> closest audible expression we have of that is Om)

>

> it's always so beautiful to me to hear Swamiji's knowledge, once

again

> reminding us of our purpose, why we do things--and, that there

> ARE things that we can do, can practice, in our every day lives that

> truly bring us closer that that which we love the most

> Jai Swamiji

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...