Guest guest Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Greetings Shubal, Is this our guitar-playing, bhajan-singing Shubal from the East? If so, nice to hear from you on this forum. That tretise on the meaning or purpose of prayer is provocative. It suggests a few things: that there is a mutual/reciprocal relationship between the Creator and Us. We find ourselves in life's circumstances, in struggle, in trouble, in confusion, in crisis, and often times, initially, it is the crisis that takes us to the creator: "Why"? "Why me"? "Why now"? "What do you want from me"? "What do you want me to learn from this"? If it takes a crisis to START the dialogue between us and our Creator, then OK. If prayer is the channel for the dialogue to flow, both to and from the Creator, then OK. If the Creator wants us to be Co-Creators, to take life as it comes to us, and to transform ourselves, to change, to make ourselves more perfect, then OK. "What IS our present circumstance" through prayer and surrender in prayer, gets transformed (along with us) into something more harmonious, more loving, more peaceful. Of course, we sadhus don't wait for the crisis to start the prayer. We can pray anywhere, anytime, anyway, and to any form of the Creator we choose, and for any purpose that serves the good of All. Do we? What do you think? Kamala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2003 Report Share Posted November 26, 2003 Kamala-ji, it is Shubal, I've been enjoying the various levels of the group since the beginning, and I'm just now beginning to have some fun with it...so the only prayer is for God to provide the most appropriate next step...anything else and look out you might get it...and the more we chant Her names the more we can find joy in that step, whatever it entails... My reply was tongue in cheek because, of course, what sense on earth does this quote make The Divine Plan: "Prayer is a part of the divine plan for making over that which is into that which ought to be." The whole of the Divine Plan is to make us into that which is and there is no such thing as ought... Love Shubal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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