9. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!> From: "astraea2003"> <astraea2003@...>

[Guest guest]

You got your qwish. It was a wonderful Thanksgiving.

We chanted the Guru Gita in the morning at the temple

and then went to Devnaths house for Thanksgiving

dinner. To our surprise Shree Maa and swamiji showed

up for a few minutes to show us how much they love

us.(Its true.Only God knows why) But there they were

to bring some more joy and bliss into our lives.

What a unique and fantastic life we have been blessed

with. To be able to receive their grace everyday. Wow.

Dont forget.

siddhananda

 

 

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> 1. Re: The True Savitri Gayatri

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> 2. Re: The Blue Dot

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> 3. Re: Shree Maa stories

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> 4. Bhagavan Dass & The Blue Dot

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> 5. Re: Shree Maa

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> 6. Maa talks...

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> 7. A hymn of Thanksgiving

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> 8. Re: The Blue Dot

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> 9. Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

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> 10. Re: Re: Shree Maa stories

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> 11. Re: Shree Maa

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> 12. shakti

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> Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:38:25 -0000

> "astraea2003" <astraea2003

> Re: The True Savitri Gayatri

>

> Namaste Chris,

> I think the concept of an egregore is pertinent

> here, but it's not

> worth arguing over. Yes, I agree that the mantra

> does reveal a self-

> existent being (the True Self), but it also taps

> into an egregore

> created by the energy of countless chanters over

> millenia. I believe

> the Hindu gods/goddesses are created god-forms. That

> includes

> Savitri/Saraswati & Gayatri Mata. I happen to like

> Hindu god/goddess

> forms, but I believe ALL god-forms are man-made.

> They act as focal

> points and they DO really exist as egregores on the

> subtle planes.

> But they have no ultimate reality, they act as

> vehicles to the

> Ultimate Reality.

>

> Yes, I agree with you as far as respecting the

> teachings of a

> tradition. I'm sure using the accepted form of the

> mantra is more

> powerful & will bear fruit more quickly. I'm

> wondering if anyone else

> is experimenting with the Gayatri without its

> "cover"? I believe the

> Gayatri is powerful even without its cover.

>

> Astraea

>

> , "Chris Kirner"

> <chriskirner1956> wrote:

> > Astraea,

> >

> > Yes, that is part of my understanding, though I

> may be wrong. I

> don't

> > know if egregore is quite the right idea, though I

> think (in my

> > limited understanding of the subject) it may apply

> to other

> mantras.

> > This mantra is said to manifest either Gayatri

> Mata or Savitri. I

> > don't know anything about Gayatri Mata, but

> Savitri is not a

> creation

> > of the mantra, but a self-existent being whom the

> mantra unveils.

> My

> > understanding of an egregore is just the opposite

> (though I admit I

> > had to actually look it up to see what it meant).

> >

> > As far as the "cover" is concerned, I think you

> will find that your

> > japa will bear fruit faster with, rather than

> without. In the same

> > way, the use of nyasas can increase the

> effectiveness, as can homa,

> > and Tantric ritual.

> >

> > In his book on mantra and initiation, Pandit

> Tigunait explains that

> > within a tradition a given mantra will be

> pronounced and practiced

> in

> > a certain manner, even when common usage might

> suggest a different

> > way. In order to fully experience the shakti which

> flows from the

> > tradition, the initiate should practice the mantra

> as the tradition

> > dictates.

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

> > , "astraea2003"

> <astraea2003>

> > wrote:

> > > Hi Chris,

> > > Thank you for your advice. So when you say the

> cover is now "part

> > of

> > > the shakti of the mantra", I interprete this to

> mean that the

> > Savitri

> > > Gayatri in this form has an egregore. And the

> way to tap into the

> > > egregore of this mantra, is to use it the way it

> has been used

> for

> > > centuries (if not millenia). Interesting.

> > >

> > > Astraea

> > >

> > > , "Chris

> Kirner"

> > > <chriskirner1956> wrote:

> > > > Astraea,

> > > >

> > > > Because it's part of the shakti of the mantra

> now.

> > > >

> > > > It's not about "tradition" as a custom, but

> Tradition as Wisdom.

> > > >

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ,

> "astraea2003"

> > > <astraea2003>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > According to Pandit Tigunait, "Om

> Bhurbhuvassuvaha" is a

> cover

> > > for

> > > > > the Savitri Gayatri and NOT actually a part

> of the Gayatri

> > mantra

> > > > > itself. But it is chanted as part of the

> Savitri Gayatri as a

> > > > matter

> > > > > of tradition.

> > > > >

> > > > > In the Devi Mandir Lakshmi Puja book, the

> true Savitri

> Gayatri

> > is

> > > > > used without its "cover":

> > > > >

>

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