Sri Vidya Mantra/Sodashi

December 1, 2003

Swamiji probably did not teach this to you, your right. Go with what you know.

KellyArdis Jackson <anandamama (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

That is not how Swamiji taught me to chant it.

Kelly Leeper <blissnout >

Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:27:15 -0800

(PST)Subject: Re: Re:

Sri Vidya Mantra/Sodashi

Astraea,This is how Nandu teaches the Sodashi, Lalita mantra. Call me

and I will chant it for you over the phone and you can tape it.

949-493-1800. The purple bija's are raised.The underlined is low.

If you have a piano or harmonium it goes like this: Om srim

hrim klim aim sow om hrimE flat E D flat E flat

"" "" "" ""ka e i la hrimE flat E D

flat D flat E flatha sa ka ha la hrim

- all D flat in triplets if you understand musicsa ka la

hrim - All E Flatsow aim klim hrim shrimE flat

E flat E flat D flat E flatWhen it come to certain mantra's

I do them with intonations. I love this mantra. It comes from an

tantric odiyya tradition and is the mantra for the 3rd Goddess,

Sodashi in the dasamahavidya's.Enjoy and call if you want me to chant

it for you. You've been initiated into Guru, no problem.Jai

Maa!KellySrinath Ram <srinath_atreya > wrote:

Namasthe AstraeaAs Shree Pandith Tigunait has rightly said, there are

many versions of the Shri vidya mantra. The school of thought

[sampradaya] that practices the mantra begining with "ka" is called

"kaadi matha" or "kaadi vidya sampradaaya". Likewise there are

"saadi" (sa-aadi:begining with 'sa'), "haadi" etc. The mantra which

you have quoted is actually "shodashakari" - the 16 syllabled mantra

of the Divine Mother. Panchadashi is 15 lettered. Both are also

called as Shree chakra mantras as they are the main mantras for

worshipping the shree chakram.The rules of Shree vidya prohibits even

discussing the secrets of the vidya in the presence of the uninitiated

one. In such cases, one can refer to the mantras indirectly. Normally,

we say "moola" [the original/source]to mean the Shree vidya mantra.The

vedic tradition is an oral tradition - mantras and secret knowledge

are taught by the Gurus

to their desciples orally, in secrecy and it is laid out that sacred

mantras should not be written.,

"astraea2003" <astraea2003> wrote:> Namaste Sarada,> I'm

probably getting into things over my head, but I'm curious.> In one

commentary on the Lalita Sahasranama, it mentions the fifteen >

syllable mantra, panchadashaksari, as the mantra of Sri Chakra.> >

According to Pandit Tigunait, there are many variations of the Sri >

Vidya mantra. These are the fifteen syllables he gives:> > Ka e i la

hrim> ha sa ka ha la hrim> sa ka la hrim> shrim> > Is the Sri Vidya

mantra the same thing as the Sri Chakra mantra? > Is the term

"panchadashaksari" simply a way to refer to the Sri > Chakra or Sri

Vidya mantra without revealing the mantra?> > AstraeaTo

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December 1, 2003

Dear Members,

I just came across lucid posting on pronounciation

which prompted me to join this group.

I would like to state a few points for you to ponder.

Just like a radio or TV is to be properly tuned to

receive signals, a mantra is to be recited correctly for best

results, but as rightly pointed out in the posting each model of

TV,say Soni, Samsung etc. claim excellent reception. Similarly

different people pronounce the same word in their own ways. This

applies to all languages!

Unlike broadcasts, Mata looks into the heart of

Sadhaka and not the pronounciation. So devotion is the most

important aspect.

Please, I repeat please do not start reciting mantras

without getting it from a Guru who has practised it for long. They

are like high voltage, you should protect yourself before touching

them. Not that they are harmful, but we should be raised to a level

to receive them. And there is ladder, you don't jump to the highest

level. Step by step initiation is like going K-12 and is the BEST

WAY.

True Gurus do not part with Shodasi easily.

Most prevalent forms of Panchadasi & Shodasi are as

below

ka e i la hrim

ha sa ka ha la hrim

sa ka la hrim

Panchadasi becomes Shodasi by adding SHRIM

Properly done you can enjoy bliss right here in the midst

of misery

Best wishes for Devi worship

balaravi

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout>

wrote:

> Astraea,

>

> This is how Nandu teaches the Sodashi, Lalita mantra. Call me and

I will chant it

> for you over the phone and you can tape it. 949-493-1800. The

purple bija's are raised.

> The underlined is low. If you have a piano or harmonium it goes

like this:

>

> Om srim hrim klim aim sow om hrim

> E flat E D flat E flat "" "" "" ""

>

> ka e i la hrim

> E flat E D flat D flat E flat

>

> ha sa ka ha la hrim - all D flat in triplets if you understand

music

>

> sa ka la hrim - All E Flat

>

> sow aim klim hrim shrim

> E flat E flat E flat D flat E flat

>

> When it come to certain mantra's I do them with intonations. I

love this mantra.

> It comes from an tantric odiyya tradition and is the mantra for

the 3rd Goddess, Sodashi in the dasamahavidya's.

>

> Enjoy and call if you want me to chant it for you. You've been

initiated into Guru, no problem.

>

> Jai Maa!

> Kelly

>

> Srinath Ram <srinath_atreya> wrote:

> Namasthe Astraea

>

> As Shree Pandith Tigunait has rightly said, there are many

versions

> of the Shri vidya mantra. The school of thought [sampradaya] that

> practices the mantra begining with "ka" is called "kaadi matha"

> or "kaadi vidya sampradaaya". Likewise there are "saadi" (sa-

> aadi:begining with 'sa'), "haadi" etc.

>

> The mantra which you have quoted is actually "shodashakari" - the

16

> syllabled mantra of the Divine Mother. Panchadashi is 15 lettered.

> Both are also called as Shree chakra mantras as they are the main

> mantras for worshipping the shree chakram.

>

> The rules of Shree vidya prohibits even discussing the secrets of

the

> vidya in the presence of the uninitiated one. In such cases, one

can

> refer to the mantras indirectly. Normally, we say "moola" [the

> original/source]to mean the Shree vidya mantra.

>

> The vedic tradition is an oral tradition - mantras and secret

> knowledge are taught by the Gurus to their desciples orally, in

> secrecy and it is laid out that sacred mantras should not be

written.

>

> , "astraea2003"

> wrote:

> > Namaste Sarada,

> > I'm probably getting into things over my head, but I'm curious.

> > In one commentary on the Lalita Sahasranama, it mentions the

> fifteen

> > syllable mantra, panchadashaksari, as the mantra of Sri Chakra.

> >

> > According to Pandit Tigunait, there are many variations of the

Sri

> > Vidya mantra. These are the fifteen syllables he gives:

> >

> > Ka e i la hrim

> > ha sa ka ha la hrim

> > sa ka la hrim

> > shrim

> >

> > Is the Sri Vidya mantra the same thing as the Sri Chakra mantra?

> > Is the term "panchadashaksari" simply a way to refer to the Sri

> > Chakra or Sri Vidya mantra without revealing the mantra?

> >

> > Astraea

>

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December 1, 2003

Enjoyed your post here. I have a question:

If devotion is most important (and I think it's a huge factor) then Ma

will protect the child when they chant the mantra. You imply that the

chant is very powerful and it is certainly, but I also know the Divine

Mother will not provide a mantra the child can't handle. All other

beleifs are superstitous. To not do a mantra because a Guru didn't

provide it is besides the point. Ma is the ultimate in Guru and if

one is aligned to her, she will protect and bring to fruition what

the child can achieve thru the mantra or she will make the child more

interested in something else, like the world so they lose interest in

chanting the mantra.

It's all safe.

I agree with your TV station reception. But I also think some TV's

and Radio's have a better subwoffers speakers and and will provide

more shakti when turned up loud:) When it's loud you best have the

right channel otherwise it's scratchy to the ears and not pleasant to

listen to.

The main issue about mantra's received from a Guru is not that

important if devotion is the main factor. If one has a Guru and is

alligned with Guru what mantra they chant whether it comes from

elsewhere is fine. I received the mantra from a tantric adept who

has been chanting it from childhood and so far, after reciting it,

has brought me alot of comfort. Part of my sadhana is to erradicate

superstition from the Truth. They get so superimposed on eachother

and then people blindly agree to beleive this stuff without ever

testing it themselves. I think if one is compelled to do a mantra,

they should - That's Devotion!

Jai Maa!

Kellybalaravi <balaravi > wrote:

Dear Members, I just came across lucid posting on

pronounciation which prompted me to join this group. I

would like to state a few points for you to ponder. Just

like a radio or TV is to be properly tuned to receive signals, a

mantra is to be recited correctly for best results, but as rightly

pointed out in the posting each model of TV,say Soni, Samsung etc.

claim excellent reception. Similarly different people pronounce the

same word in their own ways. This applies to all languages!

Unlike broadcasts, Mata looks into the heart

of Sadhaka and not the pronounciation. So devotion is the most

important aspect. Please, I repeat please do not start

reciting mantras without getting it from a Guru who has practised it

for long. They are like high voltage, you should protect yourself

before touching them. Not that they are harmful, but we should be

raised to a level to receive them. And there is ladder, you don't

jump to the highest level. Step by step initiation is like going K-12

and is the BEST WAY. True Gurus do not part with Shodasi

easily. Most prevalent forms of Panchadasi & Shodasi are

as below ka e i la hrim ha sa ka ha la

hrim sa ka la hrimPanchadasi becomes Shodasi by adding SHRIM

Properly done you can enjoy bliss right here in the midst of

miseryBest wishes for Devi worshipbalaravi--- In

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout> wrote:>

Astraea,> > This is how Nandu teaches the Sodashi, Lalita mantra.

Call me and I will chant it > for you over the phone and you can tape

it. 949-493-1800. The purple bija's are raised.> The underlined is

low. If you have a piano or harmonium it goes like this: > > Om

srim hrim klim aim sow om hrim> E flat E D flat

E

flat "" "" "" ""> > ka e i la

hrim> E flat E D flat D flat E flat> > ha sa ka ha la hrim

- all D flat in triplets if you understand music> > sa ka la

hrim - All E Flat> > sow aim klim hrim

shrim> E flat E flat E flat D flat E flat> > When it

come to certain mantra's I do them with intonations. I love this

mantra.

> It comes from an tantric odiyya tradition and is the mantra for the

3rd Goddess, Sodashi in the dasamahavidya's.> > Enjoy and call if

you want me to chant it for you. You've been initiated into Guru, no

problem.> > Jai Maa!> Kelly> > > Srinath Ram <srinath_atreya>

wrote:> Namasthe Astraea> > > As Shree Pandith Tigunait has rightly

said, there are many versions > of the Shri vidya mantra. The school

of thought [sampradaya] that > practices the mantra begining with

"ka" is called "kaadi matha" > or "kaadi vidya sampradaaya". Likewise

there are "saadi" (sa-> aadi:begining with 'sa'), "haadi" etc. > > The

mantra which you have quoted is actually "shodashakari" - the 16 >

syllabled mantra of the Divine Mother. Panchadashi is 15 lettered. >

Both are also called as Shree chakra mantras as they are

the main > mantras for worshipping the shree chakram.> > The rules of

Shree vidya prohibits even discussing the secrets of the > vidya in

the presence of the uninitiated one. In such cases, one can > refer

to the mantras indirectly. Normally, we say "moola" [the >

original/source]to mean the Shree vidya mantra.> > The vedic

tradition is an oral tradition - mantras and secret > knowledge are

taught by the Gurus to their desciples orally, in > secrecy and it is

laid out that sacred mantras should not be written.> > > --- In

, "astraea2003" <astraea2003> >

wrote:> > Namaste Sarada,> > I'm probably getting into things over my

head, but I'm curious.> > In one commentary on the Lalita Sahasranama,

it mentions the > fifteen > > syllable mantra, panchadashaksari, as

the mantra of Sri

Chakra.> > > > According to Pandit Tigunait, there are many variations

of the Sri > > Vidya mantra. These are the fifteen syllables he

gives:> > > > Ka e i la hrim> > ha sa ka ha la hrim> > sa ka la hrim>

> shrim> > > > Is the Sri Vidya mantra the same thing as the Sri

Chakra mantra? > > Is the term "panchadashaksari" simply a way to

refer to the Sri > > Chakra or Sri Vidya mantra without revealing the

mantra?> > > > Astraea> > > > Sponsor> > To

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December 2, 2003

Kelly,

This is an intersesting topic to me. Why do bad things happen to some

devotees/practitioners?

It is a fact, I believe, that Divine Mother loves all of her children

equally, and we are all her children, even those performing the most

debased acts. Painful things certainly happen to these people.

There are many stories of people being hurt by performing practices

for which they were not prepared. These people are hurt by these

experiences. Why are they allowed to suffer? Perhaps they lacked true

devotion, but I am not able to judge that. Perhaps they had true

devotion.

I have always thought it was the guidence and care of the guru that

made the difference, but I don't know that for sure.

Shree Maa tells a story about a sadhu doing an advanced practice

seated on a corpse who gets eaten by a tiger. Divine Mother says he

was eaten because he lacked pure devotion. I wonder how anyone could

undertake such a sadhana without having devotion? How pure is pure?

One who is fully surrendered, fully absorbed into the divine, is

certainly protected in every way, but what about the rest of us?

Chris

, Kelly Leeper <blissnout>

wrote:

> Balaravi,

>

> Enjoyed your post here. I have a question:

>

> If devotion is most important (and I think it's a huge factor) then

Ma will protect the child when they chant the mantra. You imply that

the chant is very powerful and it is certainly, but I also know the

Divine Mother will not provide a mantra the child can't handle. All

other beleifs are superstitous. To not do a mantra because a Guru

didn't provide it is besides the point. Ma is the ultimate in Guru

and if one is aligned to her, she will protect and bring to fruition

what the child can achieve thru the mantra or she will make the child

more interested in something else, like the world so they lose

interest in chanting the mantra.

>

> It's all safe.

>

> I agree with your TV station reception. But I also think some TV's

and Radio's have a better subwoffers speakers and and will provide

more shakti when turned up loud:) When it's loud you best have the

right channel otherwise it's scratchy to the ears and not pleasant to

listen to.

>

> The main issue about mantra's received from a Guru is not that