For Turtle Dragon - Dualities

[Guest guest]

Hi TD,

 

I hope someone who has a lot of experience in Japa/Yoga will respond

to your post.

 

My two cents ... based on my own experience.

 

Do Sadhana !

 

You dont have to believe in God/Guru/yourself.

You dont have to ponder over ideas.

You dont have to believe in anything.

 

It is as simple as getting on a plane to a destination - you dont

need to know the workings of the engine/plane/pilot nothing.

 

You only have to take the step !

 

And you WILL find the answers you seek.

 

Just Do It

 

Love

Latha

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "turtle dragon"

<turtledragonscove> wrote:

> Because this has the most heartful and responsive hindu list I was

> able to find I am asking this question here in hopes of a helpful

> response.

>

> In Mishra's translation of Patajali's Yoga Sutras section of Kriya

> yoga, #48, Tato dvandva anabhighatah or

> Tato = removal of tension, production of relation, identity with

> Self,

> dvandva = the pairs of opposites and dualism,

> anabhighatah = do not attack.

>

> It says when posture is mastered, tension is removed, we are

relaxed

> and the omipresent, omniscient, omnipotent self is realized.

> The pairs of opposites such as heat and cold, love and hate, etc...

> as well as dualism of the world do not attack the yogin.

> ----------------

>

> This is a state I'd like to achieve, however not just for myself.

> Is that possible?

>

> Dualism seems to be something I keep seeing and it would be nice if

> the pairs of opposites were to work together, not just within, but

> outside ourselves, so that they do not attack each other but work

> together.

>

> I'm sure this is much much too high level stuff for me, and

probably

> the answer to my dilemmas and personal karma lie within and

invoking

> the help of the Goddess and other spiritual masters who reside in

> spirit, as it seems beyond me to try and transform even the factors

> around me that effect me. I suppose japa with intension or any

> mantra, yantra, sadana, with intention, would produce

transformative

> results.

>

> I am just confounded as it all seems so complex and out of my

> reach. I guess I will do what I always do and just reach out to

the

> arms of the Goddess for refuge.

>

> Has anyone here taken kriya yoga and are willing to tell me more

> about their experience? Or their experience with karma yoga or any

> of the other yogas. I have only taken hatha, which focused on

> physical mostly but was very good, and some kundalini yoga.

>

> I was touched by a story I heard on the shree ma radio station

> yesterday about the effectiveness of japa. It

> simplicity, 'reachability' and power are a comfort, to get out of

> the head and intellect and into the heart. Has anyone used japa to

> a powerful result and would be willing to share their story with me?

>

> Thanks again for including me in your list.

> -td

[Guest guest]

Ok, I'll give it a shot.

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> Hi TD,

>

> I hope someone who has a lot of experience in Japa/Yoga will

respond

> to your post.

>

> My two cents ... based on my own experience.

>

> Do Sadhana !

>

> You dont have to believe in God/Guru/yourself.

> You dont have to ponder over ideas.

> You dont have to believe in anything.

>

> It is as simple as getting on a plane to a destination - you dont

> need to know the workings of the engine/plane/pilot nothing.

>

> You only have to take the step !

>

> And you WILL find the answers you seek.

>

> Just Do It

>

> Love

> Latha

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

, "turtle dragon"

> <turtledragonscove> wrote:

> > Because this has the most heartful and responsive hindu list I

was

> > able to find I am asking this question here in hopes of a

helpful

> > response.

> >

> > In Mishra's translation of Patajali's Yoga Sutras section of

Kriya

> > yoga, #48, Tato dvandva anabhighatah or

> > Tato = removal of tension, production of relation, identity with

> > Self,

> > dvandva = the pairs of opposites and dualism,

> > anabhighatah = do not attack.

> >

> > It says when posture is mastered, tension is removed, we are

> relaxed

> > and the omipresent, omniscient, omnipotent self is realized.

> > The pairs of opposites such as heat and cold, love and hate,

etc...

> > as well as dualism of the world do not attack the yogin.

> > ----------------

> >

> > This is a state I'd like to achieve, however not just for

myself.

> > Is that possible?

> >

> > Dualism seems to be something I keep seeing and it would be nice

if

> > the pairs of opposites were to work together, not just within,

but

> > outside ourselves, so that they do not attack each other but

work

> > together.

> >

> > I'm sure this is much much too high level stuff for me, and

> probably

> > the answer to my dilemmas and personal karma lie within and

> invoking

> > the help of the Goddess and other spiritual masters who reside

in

> > spirit, as it seems beyond me to try and transform even the

factors

> > around me that effect me. I suppose japa with intension or any

> > mantra, yantra, sadana, with intention, would produce

> transformative

> > results.

> >

> > I am just confounded as it all seems so complex and out of my

> > reach. I guess I will do what I always do and just reach out to

> the

> > arms of the Goddess for refuge.

> >

> > Has anyone here taken kriya yoga and are willing to tell me more

> > about their experience? Or their experience with karma yoga or

any

> > of the other yogas. I have only taken hatha, which focused on

> > physical mostly but was very good, and some kundalini yoga.

> >

> > I was touched by a story I heard on the shree ma radio station

> > yesterday about the effectiveness of japa. It

> > simplicity, 'reachability' and power are a comfort, to get out

of

> > the head and intellect and into the heart. Has anyone used japa

to

> > a powerful result and would be willing to share their story with

me?

> >

> > Thanks again for including me in your list.

> > -td