Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 brain, i used to be dominated by my anger. slowly, over about a year, i worked with the divine qualities in the gita. basically i said, anger is "illegal." this is very unpopular with notions of "healthy" expressions of emotions. remember, my situation, i had no problem at all expressing the negative. so i worked and worked with it, sometimes succeeding, sometimes not, but i could definitely see a change. now i see a place where, as i enter, emotions are farther away ... i see the conflicts from more of a distance, at least, ones that i can anticipate. in that meditative state emotions seems composed, almost like i am floating outside of them. there is always some unexpected test, when i am tired or whatnot, to keep me too self-satisfied, however. it is just that finally, this is no longer my main focus, i can dig deeper. peace, steve c. , "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote: > One of the major lessons of my life currently is knowing the difference between "hissing" and expressing anger. There's a cute story about a snake that I've heard Maa tell. Most of you have heard it, I'm sure. The gist of the story is that a snake who was mean and terrorizing a villiage was initiated by a guru and told that he would achieve enlightenment if he stopped biting creatures. The snake's newly found peaceful ways were quickly noticed by some of the villiage boys who took it upon themselves to throw rocks at the snake, nearly stoning it to death. When his guru returned the snake was barely alive. The guru scolded his pupil, "I told you not to bite people! I didn't tell you that you couldn't hiss!" Its a very valuable lesson. Many people these days run on anger. They use their anger to get them what they want, to satisfy their desires or satiate their fears. Anger is an unconscious reaction to internal feelings which we are attempting to deny. I have been learning, with godess' help, that anger is unnecessary. And that's a wonderful thing. The problem is: I have been raised by folks who believed that all negativity is wrong and so I have a habit of repressing all negative feelings. This makes it hard to hiss. I've decided that a hiss is not negative, its a positive affirmation of my personal space. Maya has given me control over my body and its personal space. That space is emotional as well as physical and mental and it is my responsibility to set healthy boundaries for those who would intrude on my mental, emotional or physical space. And that's why its important to hiss. When someone intrudes on me, my first instinct is to cower, I learned to stop that years ago. But then I learned to be angry to defend myself and that is wrong as well. Maa said it best when she said that we have to hiss. I have to stay aware, stay present, stay self loving and hiss at the people who are crossing my boundaries. Its a tall order and I'm just begining to understand that truth. I have a simple thought of healthy boundaries and I'm sending it to the goddess of healthy boundaries as a diplomat to try and get her to become a part of me. Of course she will turn him down, after all she cannot be ruled by thoughts, but in doing so all the parts of me that don't really want to have the goddess of that truth will become enraged that she said no, will become desirous of her and they will do battle with her ... and ... lose. Thus making me a part of the goddess, the way it always has been. That is how the energy of Chandi works. Jai Chandi Jai Jai. Have you learned to hiss without anger? Please tell your story. Thanks. Love and blessings, Brian"In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program. > > _____________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Hi Steve. I didn't find my anger until recently, just a few years ago. Wasn't allowed to have it before. Now I'm learning to dig underneath the anger for the real emotion its trying to hide. Thanks much, Brian At 06:11 PM 1/19/2004, you wrote: >brain, i used to be dominated by my anger. slowly, over about a >year, i worked with the divine qualities in the gita. basically i >said, anger is "illegal." this is very unpopular with notions >of "healthy" expressions of emotions. remember, my situation, i had >no problem at all expressing the negative. > >so i worked and worked with it, sometimes succeeding, sometimes not, >but i could definitely see a change. > >now i see a place where, as i enter, emotions are farther away ... i >see the conflicts from more of a distance, at least, ones that i can >anticipate. in that meditative state emotions seems composed, almost >like i am floating outside of them. > >there is always some unexpected test, when i am tired or whatnot, to >keep me too self-satisfied, however. it is just that finally, this >is no longer my main focus, i can dig deeper. > >peace, > >steve c. > > >, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote: > > One of the major lessons of my life currently is knowing the >difference between "hissing" and expressing anger. There's a cute >story about a snake that I've heard Maa tell. Most of you have heard >it, I'm sure. The gist of the story is that a snake who was mean and >terrorizing a villiage was initiated by a guru and told that he >would achieve enlightenment if he stopped biting creatures. The >snake's newly found peaceful ways were quickly noticed by some of >the villiage boys who took it upon themselves to throw rocks at the >snake, nearly stoning it to death. When his guru returned the snake >was barely alive. The guru scolded his pupil, "I told you not to >bite people! I didn't tell you that you couldn't hiss!" Its a very >valuable lesson. Many people these days run on anger. They use their >anger to get them what they want, to satisfy their desires or >satiate their fears. Anger is an unconscious reaction to internal >feelings which we are attempting to deny. I have been learning, with >godess' help, that anger is unnecessary. And that's a wonderful >thing. The problem is: I have been raised by folks who believed that >all negativity is wrong and so I have a habit of repressing all >negative feelings. This makes it hard to hiss. I've decided that a >hiss is not negative, its a positive affirmation of my personal >space. Maya has given me control over my body and its personal >space. That space is emotional as well as physical and mental and it >is my responsibility to set healthy boundaries for those who would >intrude on my mental, emotional or physical space. And that's why >its important to hiss. When someone intrudes on me, my first >instinct is to cower, I learned to stop that years ago. But then I >learned to be angry to defend myself and that is wrong as well. Maa >said it best when she said that we have to hiss. I have to stay >aware, stay present, stay self loving and hiss at the people who are >crossing my boundaries. Its a tall order and I'm just begining to >understand that truth. I have a simple thought of healthy boundaries >and I'm sending it to the goddess of healthy boundaries as a >diplomat to try and get her to become a part of me. Of course she >will turn him down, after all she cannot be ruled by thoughts, but >in doing so all the parts of me that don't really want to have the >goddess of that truth will become enraged that she said no, will >become desirous of her and they will do battle with her ... and ... >lose. Thus making me a part of the goddess, the way it always has >been. That is how the energy of Chandi works. Jai Chandi Jai Jai. >Have you learned to hiss without anger? Please tell your story. >Thanks. Love and blessings, Brian"In the begining, the universe was >created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely >regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to >the Galaxy Radio Program. > > > > _____________ > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > > Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > >Your > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Wow...that is so great! Thank you. I feel like hissing now with gratitude and joy! Gina Brian McKee [brian (AT) soulspark (DOT) org]Monday, January 19, 2004 3:54 PMTo: Subject: How to hiss One of the major lessons of my life currently is knowing the difference between "hissing" and expressing anger.There's a cute story about a snake that I've heard Maa tell. Most of you have heard it, I'm sure. The gist of the story is that a snake who was mean and terrorizing a villiage was initiated by a guru and told that he would achieve enlightenment if he stopped biting creatures.The snake's newly found peaceful ways were quickly noticed by some of the villiage boys who took it upon themselves to throw rocks at the snake, nearly stoning it to death.When his guru returned the snake was barely alive.The guru scolded his pupil, "I told you not to bite people! I didn't tell you that you couldn't hiss!"Its a very valuable lesson.Many people these days run on anger. They use their anger to get them what they want, to satisfy their desires or satiate their fears. Anger is an unconscious reaction to internal feelings which we are attempting to deny.I have been learning, with godess' help, that anger is unnecessary.And that's a wonderful thing. The problem is: I have been raised by folks who believed that all negativity is wrong and so I have a habit of repressing all negative feelings. This makes it hard to hiss.I've decided that a hiss is not negative, its a positive affirmation of my personal space. Maya has given me control over my body and its personal space. That space is emotional as well as physical and mental and it is my responsibility to set healthy boundaries for those who would intrude on my mental, emotional or physical space.And that's why its important to hiss.When someone intrudes on me, my first instinct is to cower, I learned to stop that years ago. But then I learned to be angry to defend myself and that is wrong as well. Maa said it best when she said that we have to hiss.I have to stay aware, stay present, stay self loving and hiss at the people who are crossing my boundaries.Its a tall order and I'm just begining to understand that truth.I have a simple thought of healthy boundaries and I'm sending it to the goddess of healthy boundaries as a diplomat to try and get her to become a part of me. Of course she will turn him down, after all she cannot be ruled by thoughts, but in doing so all the parts of me that don't really want to have the goddess of that truth will become enraged that she said no, will become desirous of her and they will do battle with her ... and ... lose. Thus making me a part of the goddess, the way it always has been.That is how the energy of Chandi works. Jai Chandi Jai Jai.Have you learned to hiss without anger?Please tell your story.Thanks.Love and blessings,Brian"In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program. No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 amu, in my experience all the 'negative' emotions need to be dealt with quite directly ... can't wait for them to go away. again, my experience. in the gita for example, one of the divine qualities is translated to english as "freedom from anger." NOT "freedom to BE angry!" as recommended by modern psychologists. the idea is, anger is a suffering just the same as the underlying emotions of social anxiety, fear, whatever drives the anger as a self-protective mechanism. replacing one suffering with another one is not the way! replacing the suffering, negative qualities with divine qualities is far better. might one fail often in the attempt? you bet. can we work in it successfully? yes. it's back to that little bird picking up grains of sand one by one on the beach. all the other animals thought is was an impossible task. then someone like shree maa comes along and everything changes, or is given a big boost. steve c. , Amu <apratimbarua> wrote: > Regarding 'hissing', I tend to agree with Steve (i.e. we need to find out, if possible, what lies underneath the emotion).But I'd read in Sri Aurobindo's works somewhere that anger can be an unwanted by-product of sadhana as one goes along,it gradually goes away. > Amu > > > > > Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 Dear Brian, I have been thinking long and hard on your question. Several thoughts popped out - and it is interesting for me to see what jumps out at me when I hear stuff that makes me think. One thought "Oh just surrender to Maa, and she will help you hiss when you really need it" Another "why not read a self-help book. I am sure someone musta written a book like "how to get angry but not lose your temper" Another "we are here to talk about loving God, why worry about changing your personality" Another "maybe you are not meant to be a hisser, why not accept that ?" and some more ... I waited for all these thoughts to settle down before I attempted to answer you . And here is my response, and this is what I have found applicable to me :- I can "deal" with a situation by hissing and not getting angry only if I have no vested interest in the outcome. The minute I want to control the outcome, I lose my objectivity. And how do I say I dont care about the consequences when it may be a question of a major change ? I leave it upto God - I say "I really do care about what happens, but I have no control over it and nothing I can say or do will make a difference if it is not authorized by You. I will act out of the best I can at this moment, with malice towards none and understand that you control the outcome " Paradoxically, this has helped me control the situation, because I feel a renewed strength in knowing that there is a greater power that will take care. I find I need great strength to surrender to God. This is where Sadhana helps me. Thanks for the opportunity at introspection . Love Latha , "bingo_ridley" <bingo_ridley> wrote: > amu, > > in my experience all the 'negative' emotions need to be dealt with > quite directly ... can't wait for them to go away. again, my > experience. > > in the gita for example, one of the divine qualities is translated > to english as "freedom from anger." NOT "freedom to BE angry!" as > recommended by modern psychologists. > > the idea is, anger is a suffering just the same as the underlying > emotions of social anxiety, fear, whatever drives the anger as a > self-protective mechanism. replacing one suffering with another one > is not the way! replacing the suffering, negative qualities with > divine qualities is far better. > > might one fail often in the attempt? you bet. can we work in it > successfully? yes. > > it's back to that little bird picking up grains of sand one by one > on the beach. all the other animals thought is was an impossible > task. then someone like shree maa comes along and everything > changes, or is given a big boost. > > steve c. > > > , Amu <apratimbarua> wrote: > > Regarding 'hissing', I tend to agree with Steve (i.e. we need to > find out, if possible, what lies underneath the emotion).But I'd > read in Sri Aurobindo's works somewhere that anger can be an > unwanted by-product of sadhana as one goes along,it gradually goes > away. > > Amu > > > > > > > > > > Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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