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brain, i used to be dominated by my anger. slowly, over about a

year, i worked with the divine qualities in the gita. basically i

said, anger is "illegal." this is very unpopular with notions

of "healthy" expressions of emotions. remember, my situation, i had

no problem at all expressing the negative.

 

so i worked and worked with it, sometimes succeeding, sometimes not,

but i could definitely see a change.

 

now i see a place where, as i enter, emotions are farther away ... i

see the conflicts from more of a distance, at least, ones that i can

anticipate. in that meditative state emotions seems composed, almost

like i am floating outside of them.

 

there is always some unexpected test, when i am tired or whatnot, to

keep me too self-satisfied, however. it is just that finally, this

is no longer my main focus, i can dig deeper.

 

peace,

 

steve c.

 

 

, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote:

> One of the major lessons of my life currently is knowing the

difference between "hissing" and expressing anger. There's a cute

story about a snake that I've heard Maa tell. Most of you have heard

it, I'm sure. The gist of the story is that a snake who was mean and

terrorizing a villiage was initiated by a guru and told that he

would achieve enlightenment if he stopped biting creatures. The

snake's newly found peaceful ways were quickly noticed by some of

the villiage boys who took it upon themselves to throw rocks at the

snake, nearly stoning it to death. When his guru returned the snake

was barely alive. The guru scolded his pupil, "I told you not to

bite people! I didn't tell you that you couldn't hiss!" Its a very

valuable lesson. Many people these days run on anger. They use their

anger to get them what they want, to satisfy their desires or

satiate their fears. Anger is an unconscious reaction to internal

feelings which we are attempting to deny. I have been learning, with

godess' help, that anger is unnecessary. And that's a wonderful

thing. The problem is: I have been raised by folks who believed that

all negativity is wrong and so I have a habit of repressing all

negative feelings. This makes it hard to hiss. I've decided that a

hiss is not negative, its a positive affirmation of my personal

space. Maya has given me control over my body and its personal

space. That space is emotional as well as physical and mental and it

is my responsibility to set healthy boundaries for those who would

intrude on my mental, emotional or physical space. And that's why

its important to hiss. When someone intrudes on me, my first

instinct is to cower, I learned to stop that years ago. But then I

learned to be angry to defend myself and that is wrong as well. Maa

said it best when she said that we have to hiss. I have to stay

aware, stay present, stay self loving and hiss at the people who are

crossing my boundaries. Its a tall order and I'm just begining to

understand that truth. I have a simple thought of healthy boundaries

and I'm sending it to the goddess of healthy boundaries as a

diplomat to try and get her to become a part of me. Of course she

will turn him down, after all she cannot be ruled by thoughts, but

in doing so all the parts of me that don't really want to have the

goddess of that truth will become enraged that she said no, will

become desirous of her and they will do battle with her ... and ...

lose. Thus making me a part of the goddess, the way it always has

been. That is how the energy of Chandi works. Jai Chandi Jai Jai.

Have you learned to hiss without anger? Please tell your story.

Thanks. Love and blessings, Brian"In the begining, the universe was

created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely

regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to

the Galaxy Radio Program.

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Hi Steve.

 

I didn't find my anger until recently, just a few years ago. Wasn't allowed

to have it before.

 

Now I'm learning to dig underneath the anger for the real emotion its

trying to hide.

 

Thanks much,

 

Brian

 

At 06:11 PM 1/19/2004, you wrote:

>brain, i used to be dominated by my anger. slowly, over about a

>year, i worked with the divine qualities in the gita. basically i

>said, anger is "illegal." this is very unpopular with notions

>of "healthy" expressions of emotions. remember, my situation, i had

>no problem at all expressing the negative.

>

>so i worked and worked with it, sometimes succeeding, sometimes not,

>but i could definitely see a change.

>

>now i see a place where, as i enter, emotions are farther away ... i

>see the conflicts from more of a distance, at least, ones that i can

>anticipate. in that meditative state emotions seems composed, almost

>like i am floating outside of them.

>

>there is always some unexpected test, when i am tired or whatnot, to

>keep me too self-satisfied, however. it is just that finally, this

>is no longer my main focus, i can dig deeper.

>

>peace,

>

>steve c.

>

>

>, "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote:

> > One of the major lessons of my life currently is knowing the

>difference between "hissing" and expressing anger. There's a cute

>story about a snake that I've heard Maa tell. Most of you have heard

>it, I'm sure. The gist of the story is that a snake who was mean and

>terrorizing a villiage was initiated by a guru and told that he

>would achieve enlightenment if he stopped biting creatures. The

>snake's newly found peaceful ways were quickly noticed by some of

>the villiage boys who took it upon themselves to throw rocks at the

>snake, nearly stoning it to death. When his guru returned the snake

>was barely alive. The guru scolded his pupil, "I told you not to

>bite people! I didn't tell you that you couldn't hiss!" Its a very

>valuable lesson. Many people these days run on anger. They use their

>anger to get them what they want, to satisfy their desires or

>satiate their fears. Anger is an unconscious reaction to internal

>feelings which we are attempting to deny. I have been learning, with

>godess' help, that anger is unnecessary. And that's a wonderful

>thing. The problem is: I have been raised by folks who believed that

>all negativity is wrong and so I have a habit of repressing all

>negative feelings. This makes it hard to hiss. I've decided that a

>hiss is not negative, its a positive affirmation of my personal

>space. Maya has given me control over my body and its personal

>space. That space is emotional as well as physical and mental and it

>is my responsibility to set healthy boundaries for those who would

>intrude on my mental, emotional or physical space. And that's why

>its important to hiss. When someone intrudes on me, my first

>instinct is to cower, I learned to stop that years ago. But then I

>learned to be angry to defend myself and that is wrong as well. Maa

>said it best when she said that we have to hiss. I have to stay

>aware, stay present, stay self loving and hiss at the people who are

>crossing my boundaries. Its a tall order and I'm just begining to

>understand that truth. I have a simple thought of healthy boundaries

>and I'm sending it to the goddess of healthy boundaries as a

>diplomat to try and get her to become a part of me. Of course she

>will turn him down, after all she cannot be ruled by thoughts, but

>in doing so all the parts of me that don't really want to have the

>goddess of that truth will become enraged that she said no, will

>become desirous of her and they will do battle with her ... and ...

>lose. Thus making me a part of the goddess, the way it always has

>been. That is how the energy of Chandi works. Jai Chandi Jai Jai.

>Have you learned to hiss without anger? Please tell your story.

>Thanks. Love and blessings, Brian"In the begining, the universe was

>created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely

>regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to

>the Galaxy Radio Program.

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Wow...that is so great! Thank you. I feel like hissing now with gratitude and joy!

Gina

Brian McKee

[brian (AT) soulspark (DOT) org]Monday, January 19, 2004 3:54 PMTo:

Subject: How to hiss

One of the major lessons of my life currently is knowing the

difference between "hissing" and expressing anger.There's a cute

story about a snake that I've heard Maa tell. Most of you have heard

it, I'm sure. The gist of the story is that a snake who was mean and

terrorizing a villiage was initiated by a guru and told that he would

achieve enlightenment if he stopped biting creatures.The snake's newly

found peaceful ways were quickly noticed by some of the villiage boys

who took it upon themselves to throw rocks at the snake, nearly

stoning it to death.When his guru returned the snake was barely

alive.The guru scolded his pupil, "I told you not to bite people! I

didn't tell you that you couldn't hiss!"Its a very valuable

lesson.Many people these days run on anger. They use their anger to

get them what they want, to satisfy their desires or satiate their

fears. Anger is an unconscious reaction to internal feelings which we

are attempting to deny.I have been learning, with godess' help, that

anger is unnecessary.And that's a wonderful thing. The problem is: I

have been raised by folks who believed that all negativity is wrong

and so I have a habit of repressing all negative feelings. This makes

it hard to hiss.I've decided that a hiss is not negative, its a

positive affirmation of my personal space. Maya has given me control

over my body and its personal space. That space is emotional as well

as physical and mental and it is my responsibility to set healthy

boundaries for those who would intrude on my mental, emotional or

physical space.And that's why its important to hiss.When someone

intrudes on me, my first instinct is to cower, I learned to stop that

years ago. But then I learned to be angry to defend myself and that is

wrong as well. Maa said it best when she said that we have to hiss.I

have to stay aware, stay present, stay self loving and hiss at the

people who are crossing my boundaries.Its a tall order and I'm just

begining to understand that truth.I have a simple thought of healthy

boundaries and I'm sending it to the goddess of healthy boundaries as

a diplomat to try and get her to become a part of me. Of course she

will turn him down, after all she cannot be ruled by thoughts, but in

doing so all the parts of me that don't really want to have the

goddess of that truth will become enraged that she said no, will

become desirous of her and they will do battle with her ... and ...

lose. Thus making me a part of the goddess, the way it always has

been.That is how the energy of Chandi works. Jai Chandi Jai Jai.Have

you learned to hiss without anger?Please tell your story.Thanks.Love

and blessings,Brian"In the begining, the universe was created. This

has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad

move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio

Program.

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amu,

 

in my experience all the 'negative' emotions need to be dealt with

quite directly ... can't wait for them to go away. again, my

experience.

 

in the gita for example, one of the divine qualities is translated

to english as "freedom from anger." NOT "freedom to BE angry!" as

recommended by modern psychologists.

 

the idea is, anger is a suffering just the same as the underlying

emotions of social anxiety, fear, whatever drives the anger as a

self-protective mechanism. replacing one suffering with another one

is not the way! replacing the suffering, negative qualities with

divine qualities is far better.

 

might one fail often in the attempt? you bet. can we work in it

successfully? yes.

 

it's back to that little bird picking up grains of sand one by one

on the beach. all the other animals thought is was an impossible

task. then someone like shree maa comes along and everything

changes, or is given a big boost.

 

steve c.

 

 

, Amu <apratimbarua> wrote:

> Regarding 'hissing', I tend to agree with Steve (i.e. we need to

find out, if possible, what lies underneath the emotion).But I'd

read in Sri Aurobindo's works somewhere that anger can be an

unwanted by-product of sadhana as one goes along,it gradually goes

away.

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Dear Brian,

I have been thinking long and hard on your question. Several

thoughts popped out - and it is interesting for me to see what jumps

out at me when I hear stuff that makes me think.

 

One thought "Oh just surrender to Maa, and she will help you hiss

when you really need it"

Another "why not read a self-help book. I am sure someone musta

written a book like "how to get angry but not lose your temper"

Another "we are here to talk about loving God, why worry about

changing your personality"

Another "maybe you are not meant to be a hisser, why not accept

that ?"

and some more ...

I waited for all these thoughts to settle down before I attempted to

answer you .

 

 

And here is my response, and this is what I have found applicable to

me :-

I can "deal" with a situation by hissing and not getting angry only

if I have no vested interest in the outcome.

The minute I want to control the outcome, I lose my objectivity.

And how do I say I dont care about the consequences when it may be a

question of a major change ?

I leave it upto God - I say "I really do care about what happens,

but I have no control over it and nothing I can say or do will make

a difference if it is not authorized by You. I will act out of the

best I can at this moment, with malice towards none and understand

that you control the outcome "

Paradoxically, this has helped me control the situation, because I

feel a renewed strength in knowing that there is a greater power

that will take care.

I find I need great strength to surrender to God. This is where

Sadhana helps me.

Thanks for the opportunity at introspection .

Love

Latha

 

 

 

, "bingo_ridley"

<bingo_ridley> wrote:

> amu,

>

> in my experience all the 'negative' emotions need to be dealt with

> quite directly ... can't wait for them to go away. again, my

> experience.

>

> in the gita for example, one of the divine qualities is translated

> to english as "freedom from anger." NOT "freedom to BE angry!" as

> recommended by modern psychologists.

>

> the idea is, anger is a suffering just the same as the underlying

> emotions of social anxiety, fear, whatever drives the anger as a

> self-protective mechanism. replacing one suffering with another

one

> is not the way! replacing the suffering, negative qualities with

> divine qualities is far better.

>

> might one fail often in the attempt? you bet. can we work in it

> successfully? yes.

>

> it's back to that little bird picking up grains of sand one by one

> on the beach. all the other animals thought is was an impossible

> task. then someone like shree maa comes along and everything

> changes, or is given a big boost.

>

> steve c.

>

>

> , Amu <apratimbarua> wrote:

> > Regarding 'hissing', I tend to agree with Steve (i.e. we need to

> find out, if possible, what lies underneath the emotion).But I'd

> read in Sri Aurobindo's works somewhere that anger can be an

> unwanted by-product of sadhana as one goes along,it gradually goes

> away.

> > Amu

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes

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