Guest guest Posted February 8, 2004 Report Share Posted February 8, 2004 "...Is anyone else studying Sanskrit? I am interested to know what you have found helpful in your studies. Dharmananda..." Dear Dharmananda, Vyaas Houston's American Sanskrit Institute is a wonderful resource. He periodically gives "immersions" in Sanskrit and advanced immersions in Panini's grammar, studies of the Yoga Sutras, Bhagavad-Gita etc. He is a wonderful teacher and I've found his website to be very helpful as well. I did a two week immersion last June in Connecticut...it was incredible! I know, on the East Coast, there are also a number of Sanskrit "camps" every year...a chance to study and speak Sanskrit in depth. Two friends (both Indian) were taking them this past year..they told me it was mostly Indian students with a couple of Westerners. Also the Temple I go to regularly in Ashland MA offers Sanskrit classes. It seems that many Indian cultural organizations and Temples are now offering Sanskrit study so there is really alot of opportunity to practice. Last year I started this practice: take a text(for me it was the Lalitha Sahasranam) and chant it every day in transliteration, working on my pronounciation and then switch to the Devanagari text,translating the names in the text...so I'm immersing myself in the chant as part of my practice and then I'm studying the text through studying the Sanskrit and learning the Devanagari script (which you said you know already!!) and then, also, contemplating the meaning....even though it takes me a very long time to "complete" a text, the process itself is a wonderful combination of bhakti yoga and jnani yoga. Each part of the practice: the opening nyasam and dhyanam, the chanting, the translating, the contemplation of the meaning makes the whole experience richer and deeper.The Sahasranams are great for this . I would love to try this practice with the Chandi Path but it is really daunting to imagine....I will probably ask Sri Durga for some special help during Navaratri, since Chandi is my favorite text right now. The suggestions from Swamiji and from others on the list here about how to learn Chandi Path have been really helpful.Thank you. I'd love to know some of the things you may have discovered, Dharmananda, through your own interest in Sanskrit. best regards, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 Dear Sadvi, Thank you very much for the detailed post about Sanskrit resources. It is very helpful. I had heard of Vyaas Houston, and checked his website briefly, but your endorsement encourages me to check this out more thoroughly. As I live in a remote area on the West coast, I don't know if there would be any convenient access to his Sanskrit camps, but the website could be very useful. I also appreciated the program of worship/study you described. It sounds wonderful. I have mostly chanted mantras and hymns, which I love, and not yet taken on the chanting of a lengthy scripture. Following this forum is moving me in that direction, though, and your words are reinforcing that. Thank you. >From my first exposure, Sanskrit never seemed "foreign" to me. I love just the sound of it! The mantras are deeply moving and I find that the impact intensifies as I understand the meanings more profoundly. Jai Maa! Dharmananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2004 Report Share Posted February 9, 2004 "...From my first exposure, Sanskrit never seemed "foreign" to me. I love just the sound of it! The mantras are deeply moving and I find that the impact intensifies as I understand the meanings more profoundly...." Dharmananda Dear Dharmananda, I had the same experience! The first time I ever heard Sanskrit chanted by Brahmin priests was at a huge yagna...I was so intoxicated by the sound of the language that I could hardly sit up! Vyass Houston's Bija Mantra tape is really good!! I like to use it with the bahya matrika nyasa and the matrka nyasa from Swamiji's "Siva Puja and Advanced Yajna" (on pages 134-147) sometimes before I study Sanskrit. Then I feel as though my body is holding the letters right inside and my attempts at study seem to flow more smoothly. Swamiji's explanation of the nyasam is SO beautiful. He is an amazing scholar. I have learned so much from reading his commentaries in the puja books.Before I ever met Shree Maa and Swamiji , I had been studying and reading the puja books from Devi Mandir. You would be amazed, when you go to a Hindu Temple for puja, how many people are carrying Swamiji's books! Some of the younger priests are using them for reference! Anyway, I had an idea in my mind about what Swamiji would be like, thinking he would be very austere and serious, in keeping with his amazing erudition. Imagine my surprise (and delight) when I met him for the fist time! He was an ECSTATIC being! I was just so touched by his humility and open-heartedness and so happy to be in the presence of such pure souls as Swamiji and Shree Maa.They are really two Great Lights in this world. best love, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Karen cha Mike, It may be worthwhile to explore Vyaas Houston's American Sanskrit Institute. I have taken their Sanskrit training...and it is truly wonderful (not that I have " progressed" very far but it was a terrific way of beginning to get grounded in Sanskrit). Vyaas has an extremely helpful way of teaching Sanskrit.He, himself, is a person of remarkable spiritual awareness. If you can take a course directly with him, it's the greatest! But there are alot of introductory weekend workshops that get you right into the language. Then he has courses by cassette and, of course, a website. In fact, one of my Fall "vrats" is to start right back at the beginning with his cassette course. you'd be amazed at how much you will learn. You do have to keep up with it though...I've been pretty lax and find that now it's a struggle, once again. What I had been doing, and plan to begin in the Fall..is work with his course, use the bija/chakra "installation tapes" everyday (they are wonderful and you can "co-ordinate" them with the Shiva Puja bija installation in Swamiji's books) and then take a text ...I was working with the Lalitha Sahasranam, and translate several names of Devi everyday, reading the commentaries. It was one of the most profound sadhanas that I have ever done. The other book that is extremely helpful, for those of us who are studying the language to move along in our sadhanas, is John Grimes' "Concise Dictionary of Indian Philosophy" (out in paperback). You will find many of the words you are interested in, in transliterated Sanskrit, with the devanagari script and then a root break-down of the word...plus alot of fascinating material on the different philosophical systems in the appendix of the dictionary. I know this book has been mentioned here at one time. The other very good overall reference book is George Feuerstein's "The Yoga Tradition".This is an excellent reference book. An overall study of the yoga tradition. With these two books, you can research alot of the questions that are coming up for you. They are both extremely accessible and fascinating to read. My copy of John Grimes' book looks like something I have saved from my college years: it's "dog eared" and the cover is coming off...Iuse it constantly as a reference. Also...thanks so much to everyone here for all of the information about Sanskrit...transliteration websites, dictionaries, etc. It has been a huge adjustment for me to try and switch over to the computerized version....I have to admit, I find it almost impossible to use it for chanting...I'm so used to the other one...once again, thank goodness for Swamiji's books. After finally reading "Sahib Sadhu", I am more than grateful that he turned his formidable powers to translating texts for all of us here in the West. Best love to everyone, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 Dear Sadhvi, Thank you so very much for your post. I am printing it so I don't lose the titles you mention. As I read your post, I remembered that you did mention at least one of the books in a previous post, and though I had searched the archives for information, I must have missed it. What I am first trying to do is learn words for the Mahalakshmi Astakam. I have it memorized in Sanskrit fairly well (enough for my trying-hard Western tongue that is). And I know the translation fairly well, too. But I want my brain to have knowledge directly of what I am saying as I am saying it in Sanskrit. I really only need a few key correlations to make that happen. I am doing pretty well on some of the verses, but others are still a challenge. It feels amazing when I say the words in Sanskrit from memory and feel the meaning word by word as the sounds emerge. I can't describe how happy and powerful I feel when that happens. It is such a surge of energy, a glow of light. I feel it in every part of my body, but I especially feel my eyes smile. I sense a big orb of light fusing in/out/up/down. I don't know if I am up for a whole-hearted Sanskrit course, though. I have some videos and tapes and find it unappealing right now. There is so much for me to grasp. I get discouraged. I am going to try to get the books you mentioned, bit at a time as my retirement income allows. It's slow. Very slow. But Latha has been a life-savior with her patient responses to my queries. If Lakshmi weren't a driving force behind what I ask, I would not have the boldness to keep posting question after question. She is quite the taskmistress in response to my yearnings! She seems to be calling the shots as She and I attempt for me to learn one more string of words. When I hit the wall on something, she says, "Ask!" How can I not? All gratitude, Karen , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > Dear Karen cha Mike, > It may be worthwhile to explore Vyaas Houston's American > Sanskrit Institute. I have taken their Sanskrit training...and it is > truly wonderful (not that I have " progressed" very far but it was a > terrific way of beginning to get grounded in Sanskrit). Vyaas has an > extremely helpful way of teaching Sanskrit.He, himself, is a person > of remarkable spiritual awareness. If you can take a course > directly with him, it's the greatest! But there are alot of > introductory weekend workshops that get you right into the language. > Then he has courses by cassette and, of course, a website. In fact, > one of my Fall "vrats" is to start right back at the beginning with > his cassette course. you'd be amazed at how much you will learn. You > do have to keep up with it though...I've been pretty lax and find > that now it's a struggle, once again. What I had been doing, and > plan to begin in the Fall..is work with his course, use the > bija/chakra "installation tapes" everyday (they are wonderful and > you can "co-ordinate" them with the Shiva Puja bija installation in > Swamiji's books) and then take a text ...I was working with the > Lalitha Sahasranam, and translate several names of Devi everyday, > reading the commentaries. It was one of the most profound sadhanas > that I have ever done. The other book that is extremely helpful, for > those of us who are studying the language to move along in our > sadhanas, is John Grimes' "Concise Dictionary of Indian Philosophy" > (out in paperback). You will find many of the words you are > interested in, in transliterated Sanskrit, with the devanagari > script and then a root break-down of the word...plus alot of > fascinating material on the different philosophical systems in the > appendix of the dictionary. I know this book has been mentioned here > at one time. > The other very good overall reference book is George > Feuerstein's "The Yoga Tradition".This is an excellent reference > book. An overall study of the yoga tradition. With these two books, > you can research alot of the questions that are coming up for you. > They are both extremely accessible and fascinating to read. My copy > of John Grimes' book looks like something I have saved from my > college years: it's "dog eared" and the cover is coming off...Iuse > it constantly as a reference. > Also...thanks so much to everyone here for all of the information > about Sanskrit...transliteration websites, dictionaries, etc. It has > been a huge adjustment for me to try and switch over to the > computerized version....I have to admit, I find it almost impossible > to use it for chanting...I'm so used to the other one...once again, > thank goodness for Swamiji's books. After finally reading "Sahib > Sadhu", I am more than grateful that he turned his formidable powers > to translating texts for all of us here in the West. > Best love to everyone, > sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2004 Report Share Posted July 27, 2004 > If Lakshmi weren't a driving force behind what I ask, I would not > have the boldness to keep posting question after question. She > is quite > the taskmistress in response to my yearnings! She seems to be > calling the shots as She and I attempt for me to learn one more > string of words. When I hit the wall on something, she > says, "Ask!" How can I not? Dear Karen, Hope Lakshmi continues to inspire you to keep at your search to perfect the sanskrit vocabulary , to understand and intuit the meanings behind your chanting. This group is ALL about learning - from the books, from each other and of course from Maa and Swamiji. There is a saying from the Kural that has been quoted in this forum in the recent past. The rough translation of that saying is " Because of one good man, everyone gets rain " meaning EVERYONE benefits because of one good soul. Applying that to our group , when we have people like you that ask questions in the spirit of inquiry and learning , we ALL benefit. KEEP THOSE QUESTIONS COMING !!!!! JAI MAA Latha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Dear Karen, I was touched deeply by your post as what you stated is my exact goal ~ to have the understanding in my heart and mind of what I am saying in Sanskrit while I say it. I am a loooong way from my goal. You mentioned some videos. Can you tell me more about them? Where can I get them and what do they teach? Thank you and shanti ~ Linda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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