Guest guest Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 For this particular pranayama practice the breath is through the nose and the focus on the third eye. Hope this helps. , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > Does Swamiji recommend breathing thru the nose or mouth when doing these simple pranayams? Also where does He recommend the gaze and attention be placed? > - > parvati_saraswati > > Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:15 PM > Re: Chandi Question -- pranayama.......Qstn (2) > > > Dear Steve, > There are many forms of pranayama. One simple one that > Swamiji teaches is 1:4:2 or 2:8:4 , etc. Since you are learning > Shiva puja you could use Om Namah Shivaaya. > First you inhale the mantra for 1 count. Say the mantra 1 time in > your mind as you inhale. You f ill your diaphragm with air, your > stomach should fill up like a balloon. You bring the air up as > high as you can > and retain the breath reciting the mantra 4 t imes in your mind > and then you will exhale the mantra reciting the mantra 2 times. > You can begin the cycle again. > Hope this helps a little. > > > > > > , "bingo_ridley" > <bingo_ridley> wrote: > > parvati dear, > > > > thank you for your response. a little more looking into this if you > > have time ... > > > > after we do some studies, such as i am working on the > beginner's > > shiva puja, is it the teachings of shree maa and swamiji, > > considering one has one's dharmic obligations lovingly > attended to, > > that the longer one is able to meditate the better? this is part of > > what i learned from shivapuri baba and hope to be able to > continue > > with if it is wise to do so. > > > > pranayama yes this is great. is there written down or preferred > way > > to do it? i found most effective counted inhalation, counted > > retention, and very long counted exhalation. but my knowledge > on > > this is very limited. > > > > jai maa > > > > steve c. > > > > > > , "parvati_saraswati" > > <parvati_saraswati> wrote: > > > Dear Steve, > > > That union happens through grace. Grace is defined as > kripaa. What > > > you do is what you get. The longer we can sit, the more > focused we > > > make our attention, the greater the fruit.Pranayama will help > > take > > > us deeper into meditation and acts like a bridge between the > outer > > > and inner world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "bingo_ridley" > > > <bingo_ridley> wrote: > > > > parvati, > > > > > > > > is that union of shakti and shiva as rising kundalini in the > > > > sahasrar meant generally, or as a specific exercise, or as a > > > natural > > > > consequence of devotions ... or, is the answer dependant > upon > > the > > > > devotee's individual practice and circumstance? > > > > > > > > steve c. > > > > > > > > > > > > , "parvati_saraswati" > > > > <parvati_saraswati> wrote: > > > > > Dear Latha, > > > > > I was looking through my notes and here is one example > of how > > > > > the Chandi is applicable on other levels. > > > > > > > > > > In the Athaargalaa stotram verse 24 it says: Give me a > > wife > > > > in > > > > > harmony with my mind, who follows the changes of > mind, and > > > > > who can lead a family of noble birth across the > > difficulties > > > of > > > > > the ocean of objects and their relationships. > > > > > > > > > > Swamiji explains that this wife is not necessarily a > physical > > > > wife. > > > > > Consciousness is singing this praise. That is Shiva. > Shiva is > > > > > asking for union with nature, his shakti. Here Shakti > resides > > > in > > > > > the muladhara and Shiva resides in the sahasrara. He is > asking > > > > > to consumate the marriage by bringing the kundalini > energy up > > > > > from the muladhara to the sahasrara where we will > commune > > > > > and lead that good family across the ocean of objects > and > > > > > relationships. We w ill cross the samsara by uniting our > > Shakti > > > > > with our Shiva. > > > > > > > > > > In Sanskrit the prayer for a wife in harmony with my mind > > > > > follows the grammar of the sanskrit because it says > > > > > "patniim" which means wife. But on a greater level it > means > > > > > more than a physical spouse. It means an energy. Let > me > > > > > become a partner of the divine. If we are shakti give me a > > > shiva > > > > > and if we are shiva give me a shakti in harmony with my > mind. > > > It > > > > > is not just talking about a physical relationship. > > > > > > > > > > The Chandi goes beyond gender. Swamiji reminds us > not to > > > > > think of ourselves as limited beings housed in a body of > > gender. > > > > > The Chandi is the story of the evolution of > consciousness. It > > is > > > > > not about having relationships in the world. It is about > > > > > surrendering the egotism of thought and living in the > world of > > > > > consciousness.Consciousness is seeking to unite with > nature. > > > > > > > > > > , "Latha Nanda" > > > > > <lathananda> wrote: > > > > > > Swamiji says that all the verses in the Chandi are > > applicable > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > 3 levels - gross, subtle, causal . Does anyone have > notes > > from > > > > > his > > > > > > talks and can give an example? > > > > > -- ---------- > Links > > > / > > b.. > > > c.. 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Guest guest Posted February 28, 2004 Report Share Posted February 28, 2004 Thanks. I figured this as this is what I have seen as the "common traditional" method, but was curious... - parvati_saraswati Saturday, February 28, 2004 1:34 PM Re: Chandi Question -- pranayama...... For this particular pranayama practice the breath is through the nose and the focus on the third eye.Hope this helps.--- In , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> Does Swamiji recommend breathing thru the nose or mouth when doing these simple pranayams? Also where does He recommend the gaze and attention be placed?> - > parvati_saraswati > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 11:15 PM> Re: Chandi Question -- pranayama.......Qstn(2)> > > Dear Steve,> There are many forms of pranayama. One simple one that > Swamiji teaches is 1:4:2 or 2:8:4 , etc. Since you are learning > Shiva puja you could use Om Namah Shivaaya.> First you inhale the mantra for 1 count. Say the mantra 1 time in > your mind as you inhale. You f ill your diaphragm with air, your > stomach should fill up like a balloon. You bring the air up as > high as you can> and retain the breath reciting the mantra 4 t imes in your mind > and then you will exhale the mantra reciting the mantra 2 times.> You can begin the cycle again.> Hope this helps a little.> > > > > > , "bingo_ridley" > <bingo_ridley> wrote:> > parvati dear,> > > > thank you for your response. a little more looking into this if you > > have time ...> > > > after we do some studies, such as i am working on the > beginner's > > shiva puja, is it the teachings of shree maa and swamiji, > > considering one has one's dharmic obligations lovingly > attended to, > > that the longer one is able to meditate the better? this is part of > > what i learned from shivapuri baba and hope to be able to > continue > > with if it is wise to do so.> > > > pranayama yes this is great. is there written down or preferred > way > > to do it? i found most effective counted inhalation, counted > > retention, and very long counted exhalation. but my knowledge > on > > this is very limited.> > > > jai maa> > > > steve c.> > > > > > --- In , "parvati_saraswati" > > <parvati_saraswati> wrote:> > > Dear Steve,> > > That union happens through grace. Grace is defined as > kripaa. What > > > you do is what you get. The longer we can sit, the more > focused we > > > make our attention, the greater the fruit.Pranayama will help > > take > > > us deeper into meditation and acts like a bridge between the > outer > > > and inner world. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "bingo_ridley" > > > <bingo_ridley> wrote:> > > > parvati,> > > > > > > > is that union of shakti and shiva as rising kundalini in the > > > > sahasrar meant generally, or as a specific exercise, or as a > > > natural > > > > consequence of devotions ... or, is the answer dependant > upon > > the > > > > devotee's individual practice and circumstance?> > > > > > > > steve c.> > > > > > > > > > > > , "parvati_saraswati" > > > > <parvati_saraswati> wrote:> > > > > Dear Latha,> > > > > I was looking through my notes and here is one example > of how > > > > > the Chandi is applicable on other levels.> > > > > > > > > > In the Athaargalaa stotram verse 24 it says: Give me a > > wife > > > > in > > > > > harmony with my mind, who follows the changes of > mind, and > > > > > who can lead a family of noble birth across the > > difficulties > > > of > > > > > the ocean of objects and their relationships.> > > > > > > > > > Swamiji explains that this wife is not necessarily a > physical > > > > wife. > > > > > Consciousness is singing this praise. That is Shiva. > Shiva is > > > > > asking for union with nature, his shakti. Here Shakti > resides > > > in > > > > > the muladhara and Shiva resides in the sahasrara. He is > asking > > > > > to consumate the marriage by bringing the kundalini > energy up > > > > > from the muladhara to the sahasrara where we will > commune > > > > > and lead that good family across the ocean of objects > and > > > > > relationships. We w ill cross the samsara by uniting our > > Shakti > > > > > with our Shiva.> > > > > > > > > > In Sanskrit the prayer for a wife in harmony with my mind > > > > > follows the grammar of the sanskrit because it says> > > > > "patniim" which means wife. But on a greater level it > means > > > > > more than a physical spouse. It means an energy. Let > me > > > > > become a partner of the divine. If we are shakti give me a > > > shiva > > > > > and if we are shiva give me a shakti in harmony with my > mind. > > > It > > > > > is not just talking about a physical relationship.> > > > > > > > > > The Chandi goes beyond gender. Swamiji reminds us > not to > > > > > think of ourselves as limited beings housed in a body of > > gender. > > > > > The Chandi is the story of the evolution of > consciousness. It > > is > > > > > not about having relationships in the world. It is about > > > > > surrendering the egotism of thought and living in the > world of > > > > > consciousness.Consciousness is seeking to unite with > nature.> > > > > > > > > > , "Latha Nanda" > > > > > <lathananda> wrote:> > > > > > Swamiji says that all the verses in the Chandi are > > applicable > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > 3 levels - gross, subtle, causal . Does anyone have > notes > > from > > > > > his > > > > > > talks and can give an example?> > > > > > Links> > a.. 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