Countdown to Navaratri - Sankalpas- 20 days to go ...

[Guest guest]

Namaste Steve aka Bingo,

 

 

The navarna mantra is another name for

 

Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundayai Vicce.

 

 

The 32 names of Durga is in beginner Durga Puja book. It is also

called as Durga Dvatrimsannama Mala. It starts with "Durga Durgaarti

shamani Durga Padvi nivarini"

 

The Siddha Kunjika stotram is in the Chandi book. It is called the

Key to Perfection and it is said that the recitation of the Chandi is

incomplete without reciting this stotram at the end.

 

Doing the entire Chandi - nope I havent memorized it - I simply read

aloud from the text, again with Pranayam. Inhale for the length of

one Navarna mantra and exhale 1 or 2 verses of the Chandi.

 

Re chanting any or above of all the texts without initiation - I

wouldnt place too much emphasis on the need for initiation before

chanting these shlokas. Swamiji repeatedly tells us "Siksha comes

first then Diksha" ie - we have establish our worthiness as a

disciple before we can become one. There is an interesting question

in the FAQ regarding this topic. Would urge you to refer to

http://www.shreemaa.org/faq/htm

 

Hope this has whetted your appetite for more ) Hey we should think

up of some kinda online Navaratri sankalpa - any ideas ?

 

Keep those posts comin' .

 

Jai Maa

Latha

 

 

 

 

 

 

, "bingo_ridley"

<bingo_ridley> wrote:

> latha

>

> hoho you are really a delight! i like your menu of sankalpas!

>

> i am sure you will keep us posted on swami's austerities if we are

> brave enough to try and order one [and have worked up a big

apetite!]

>

> since i am but a baby-beginner, i will start by asking about

> the "Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days"

>

> the questions:

>

> 1. where can i find the Navarna mantra? i have a few books from

> shree maa and swami, but have not run across that ...

>

> 2. the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram -- is that in

the

> durga puja book? i have that but am currently engrossed in shiva

> puja beginners ... maybe it is in there? i will look.

>

> 3. when you say "do the entire chandi" you mean, reading it out

> loud ... do you mean, you memorized the sanskrit "chandi path" and

> recite out loud?

>

> ??

>

> plus thank you for the encouragement,

>

> peace,

>

> steve

>

> , "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

> wrote:

> > Namaste Steve,

> >

> > It was fun to hear of your chanting experience and the "looks"

> that

> > you got . Keep going ! Keep at it ! And come back and tell us

> about

> > it !

> >

> > Regarding the sankalpas that you can take for Navaratri .... you

> can

> > start small or you can start big. It is upto your mental makeup

> > really. In my personal case, I am a "do" or "die trying" kind of

> > person - so doing the entire Chandi at one shot was the kind that

> I

> > thrive on. But to be fair I had already nibbled some of it before

> I

> > decided to go all the way with Chandi.

> >

> > If you want to take a sankalpa, take some thing that you can

> sustain

> > for the 9 days.

> >

> > Here is a list of suggested Sankalpas for Navaratri and hoping

> > people can chime in as well

> >

> > Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days

> >

> > 1) One maala of the Navarna mantra everyday

> > 2) Chant the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram once a

day

> >

> > Medium Size Sankalpa

> >

> > 1) Beginner Durga Puja for the 9 days

> > 2) 11 times of 32 names of Durga and 11 times of Siddha Kunjika

> > stotram

> > 3) Chanting Kavach, Argala, Kilakam or doing the entire Prayog of

> > the Chandi

> >

> > Large Size Sankalpa

> >

> > 1) Doing the Seedha Path of chandi

> > 2) The entire Chandi - cover to cover

> >

> > Super Size Sankalpa

> >

> > 1) What ever Swamiji does, plus fasting , plus Gawd knows what

> else !

> >

> >

> > JAI MAA

> > Latha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , "bingo_ridley"

> > <bingo_ridley> wrote:

> > > hi latha ... thanks again for all this, it is a joy coming here

> > and

> > > reading.

> > >

> > > here is my question of the day ... for people like me, who are

> > just

> > > learning the shiva puja [day 4] ... and who live far away from

> > > Napa ... can you suggest an appropriate mode of participation

in

> > > Navaratri ... a sankalpa or particular mantra ... or is that

> best

> > > left to the individual? i will perhaps fast or something on

that

> > > order, or get some idea from the posts here.

> > >

> > > here is something you might enjoy, latha. i am doing the shiva

> > puja,

> > > and i do not live alone, so i have to integrate that into my

> > family

> > > life.

> > >

> > > well, my wife is jewish and i had a feeling she looked at me

> funny

> > > when i was working on the memorization out loud, on the mat

with

> a

> > > blanket thrown over my head and shoulders ... yes indeed, i was

> > > right, i did remind her of a rabbinical scholar busy at his

> > > prayers ... and i was happy to hear that did not bother her a

> bit,

> > > and she was happy with me.

> > >

> > > om shalom!

> > >

> > > steve c.

[Guest guest]

Namaste Surya,

 

I would urge you to refer to

http://www.shreemaa.org/faq.htm

 

and the section on

 

Initiation and Guru/Disciple relationship

 

Hope this helps.

 

Namaste

Latha

 

 

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

>

> "To practice Navarna mantra japa, one needs to get initiated

into

> that mantra from a proper teacher. One should not do japa of this

> mantra from books".

> Is this really correct? Is this what Shree Maa and Swamiji say?

I have a feeling not, but what do I know? I hope someone close at

the Mandir, if not Shree Maa or Swamiji Themselves can comment on

this.

>

> Pranams,

>

> Surya

[Guest guest]

good thanks for clearing that one up about initiation and the

slokas ...

 

also this i appreciate: "Siksha comes first then Diksha" ... i had

heard that and did not know what it meant ... understanding this NOW

seems very timely [for me.]

 

i ordered chandi path and others and the ordering page sort

of "died" and i noticed the books are still on the "shopping cart"

so i will run it through again ... hopefully to not receive too

orders, as i have only 2 eyes.

 

;-)

 

thanks latha.

 

steve c.

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> Namaste Steve aka Bingo,

>

>

> The navarna mantra is another name for

>

> Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundayai Vicce.

>

>

> The 32 names of Durga is in beginner Durga Puja book. It is also

> called as Durga Dvatrimsannama Mala. It starts with "Durga

Durgaarti

> shamani Durga Padvi nivarini"

>

> The Siddha Kunjika stotram is in the Chandi book. It is called the

> Key to Perfection and it is said that the recitation of the Chandi

is

> incomplete without reciting this stotram at the end.

>

> Doing the entire Chandi - nope I havent memorized it - I simply

read

> aloud from the text, again with Pranayam. Inhale for the length of

> one Navarna mantra and exhale 1 or 2 verses of the Chandi.

>

> Re chanting any or above of all the texts without initiation - I

> wouldnt place too much emphasis on the need for initiation before

> chanting these shlokas. Swamiji repeatedly tells us "Siksha comes

> first then Diksha" ie - we have establish our worthiness as a

> disciple before we can become one. There is an interesting

question

> in the FAQ regarding this topic. Would urge you to refer to

> http://www.shreemaa.org/faq/htm

>

> Hope this has whetted your appetite for more ) Hey we should

think

> up of some kinda online Navaratri sankalpa - any ideas ?

>

> Keep those posts comin' .

>

> Jai Maa

> Latha

, "bingo_ridley"

> <bingo_ridley> wrote:

> > latha

> >

> > hoho you are really a delight! i like your menu of sankalpas!

> >

> > i am sure you will keep us posted on swami's austerities if we

are

> > brave enough to try and order one [and have worked up a big

> apetite!]

> >

> > since i am but a baby-beginner, i will start by asking about

> > the "Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days"

> >

> > the questions:

> >

> > 1. where can i find the Navarna mantra? i have a few books from

> > shree maa and swami, but have not run across that ...

> >

> > 2. the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram -- is that in

> the

> > durga puja book? i have that but am currently engrossed in shiva

> > puja beginners ... maybe it is in there? i will look.

> >

> > 3. when you say "do the entire chandi" you mean, reading it out

> > loud ... do you mean, you memorized the sanskrit "chandi path"

and

> > recite out loud?

> >

> > ??

> >

> > plus thank you for the encouragement,

> >

> > peace,

> >

> > steve

> >

> > , "Latha Nanda"

<lathananda>

> > wrote:

> > > Namaste Steve,

> > >

> > > It was fun to hear of your chanting experience and the "looks"

> > that

> > > you got . Keep going ! Keep at it ! And come back and tell us

> > about

> > > it !

> > >

> > > Regarding the sankalpas that you can take for Navaratri ....

you

> > can

> > > start small or you can start big. It is upto your mental

makeup

> > > really. In my personal case, I am a "do" or "die trying" kind

of

> > > person - so doing the entire Chandi at one shot was the kind

that

> > I

> > > thrive on. But to be fair I had already nibbled some of it

before

> > I

> > > decided to go all the way with Chandi.

> > >

> > > If you want to take a sankalpa, take some thing that you can

> > sustain

> > > for the 9 days.

> > >

> > > Here is a list of suggested Sankalpas for Navaratri and hoping

> > > people can chime in as well

> > >

> > > Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days

> > >

> > > 1) One maala of the Navarna mantra everyday

> > > 2) Chant the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram once

a

> day

> > >

> > > Medium Size Sankalpa

> > >

> > > 1) Beginner Durga Puja for the 9 days

> > > 2) 11 times of 32 names of Durga and 11 times of Siddha

Kunjika

> > > stotram

> > > 3) Chanting Kavach, Argala, Kilakam or doing the entire Prayog

of

> > > the Chandi

> > >

> > > Large Size Sankalpa

> > >

> > > 1) Doing the Seedha Path of chandi

> > > 2) The entire Chandi - cover to cover

> > >

> > > Super Size Sankalpa

> > >

> > > 1) What ever Swamiji does, plus fasting , plus Gawd knows what

> > else !

> > >

> > >

> > > JAI MAA

> > > Latha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "bingo_ridley"

> > > <bingo_ridley> wrote:

> > > > hi latha ... thanks again for all this, it is a joy coming

here

> > > and

> > > > reading.

> > > >

> > > > here is my question of the day ... for people like me, who

are

> > > just

> > > > learning the shiva puja [day 4] ... and who live far away

from

> > > > Napa ... can you suggest an appropriate mode of

participation

> in

> > > > Navaratri ... a sankalpa or particular mantra ... or is that

> > best

> > > > left to the individual? i will perhaps fast or something on

> that

> > > > order, or get some idea from the posts here.

> > > >

> > > > here is something you might enjoy, latha. i am doing the

shiva

> > > puja,

> > > > and i do not live alone, so i have to integrate that into my

> > > family

> > > > life.

> > > >

> > > > well, my wife is jewish and i had a feeling she looked at me

> > funny

> > > > when i was working on the memorization out loud, on the mat

> with

> > a

> > > > blanket thrown over my head and shoulders ... yes indeed, i

was

> > > > right, i did remind her of a rabbinical scholar busy at his

> > > > prayers ... and i was happy to hear that did not bother her

a

> > bit,

> > > > and she was happy with me.

> > > >

> > > > om shalom!

> > > >

> > > > steve c.

[Guest guest]

ideas for an online Navaratri sankalpa ... hmmm ...

 

the important thing is, to keep that devotional feeling ...

 

parvati did an online class not too long that i missed ... how was

that event handled, that might provide some useful ideas.

 

you could likewise maybe do an on-going chant, where one

person "hands off" to another ... an online version of what i think

swami is planning for the future at devi mandir [?] ... this might

involve those little inexpensive webcams, maybe not.

 

so then, i would say it 4:00 to 6:00, then someone else does 6:00-

8:00, and we plan some sort of shifts so the mantra is continuous

through a certain time line. maybe just an e-mail or post on the

forum that the mantra is being handed off is adequate. that hand-off

moment must be very powerful, as focused as i imagine it must be

when one person takes it up from another in person. so if online is

enough i do not know.

 

anyway this is just an idea, since you asked, i'm not even sure it

is a good one, you guys be the judge ...

 

love y'all

 

steve

 

 

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:

> Namaste Steve aka Bingo,

>

>

> The navarna mantra is another name for

>

> Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundayai Vicce.

>

>

> The 32 names of Durga is in beginner Durga Puja book. It is also

> called as Durga Dvatrimsannama Mala. It starts with "Durga

Durgaarti

> shamani Durga Padvi nivarini"

>

> The Siddha Kunjika stotram is in the Chandi book. It is called the

> Key to Perfection and it is said that the recitation of the Chandi

is

> incomplete without reciting this stotram at the end.

>

> Doing the entire Chandi - nope I havent memorized it - I simply

read

> aloud from the text, again with Pranayam. Inhale for the length of

> one Navarna mantra and exhale 1 or 2 verses of the Chandi.

>

> Re chanting any or above of all the texts without initiation - I

> wouldnt place too much emphasis on the need for initiation before

> chanting these shlokas. Swamiji repeatedly tells us "Siksha comes

> first then Diksha" ie - we have establish our worthiness as a

> disciple before we can become one. There is an interesting

question

> in the FAQ regarding this topic. Would urge you to refer to

> http://www.shreemaa.org/faq/htm

>

> Hope this has whetted your appetite for more ) Hey we should

think

> up of some kinda online Navaratri sankalpa - any ideas ?

>

> Keep those posts comin' .

>

> Jai Maa

> Latha

, "bingo_ridley"

> <bingo_ridley> wrote:

> > latha

> >

> > hoho you are really a delight! i like your menu of sankalpas!

> >

> > i am sure you will keep us posted on swami's austerities if we

are

> > brave enough to try and order one [and have worked up a big

> apetite!]

> >

> > since i am but a baby-beginner, i will start by asking about

> > the "Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days"

> >

> > the questions:

> >

> > 1. where can i find the Navarna mantra? i have a few books from

> > shree maa and swami, but have not run across that ...

> >

> > 2. the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram -- is that in

> the

> > durga puja book? i have that but am currently engrossed in shiva

> > puja beginners ... maybe it is in there? i will look.

> >

> > 3. when you say "do the entire chandi" you mean, reading it out

> > loud ... do you mean, you memorized the sanskrit "chandi path"

and

> > recite out loud?

> >

> > ??

> >

> > plus thank you for the encouragement,

> >

> > peace,

> >

> > steve

> >

> > , "Latha Nanda"

<lathananda>

> > wrote:

> > > Namaste Steve,

> > >

> > > It was fun to hear of your chanting experience and the "looks"

> > that

> > > you got . Keep going ! Keep at it ! And come back and tell us

> > about

> > > it !

> > >

> > > Regarding the sankalpas that you can take for Navaratri ....

you

> > can

> > > start small or you can start big. It is upto your mental

makeup

> > > really. In my personal case, I am a "do" or "die trying" kind

of

> > > person - so doing the entire Chandi at one shot was the kind

that

> > I

> > > thrive on. But to be fair I had already nibbled some of it

before

> > I

> > > decided to go all the way with Chandi.

> > >

> > > If you want to take a sankalpa, take some thing that you can

> > sustain

> > > for the 9 days.

> > >

> > > Here is a list of suggested Sankalpas for Navaratri and hoping

> > > people can chime in as well

> > >

> > > Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days

> > >

> > > 1) One maala of the Navarna mantra everyday

> > > 2) Chant the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram once

a

> day

> > >

> > > Medium Size Sankalpa

> > >

> > > 1) Beginner Durga Puja for the 9 days

> > > 2) 11 times of 32 names of Durga and 11 times of Siddha

Kunjika

> > > stotram

> > > 3) Chanting Kavach, Argala, Kilakam or doing the entire Prayog

of

> > > the Chandi

> > >

> > > Large Size Sankalpa

> > >

> > > 1) Doing the Seedha Path of chandi

> > > 2) The entire Chandi - cover to cover

> > >

> > > Super Size Sankalpa

> > >

> > > 1) What ever Swamiji does, plus fasting , plus Gawd knows what

> > else !

> > >

> > >

> > > JAI MAA

> > > Latha

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "bingo_ridley"

> > > <bingo_ridley> wrote:

> > > > hi latha ... thanks again for all this, it is a joy coming

here

> > > and

> > > > reading.

> > > >

> > > > here is my question of the day ... for people like me, who

are

> > > just

> > > > learning the shiva puja [day 4] ... and who live far away

from

> > > > Napa ... can you suggest an appropriate mode of

participation

> in

> > > > Navaratri ... a sankalpa or particular mantra ... or is that

> > best

> > > > left to the individual? i will perhaps fast or something on

> that

> > > > order, or get some idea from the posts here.

> > > >

> > > > here is something you might enjoy, latha. i am doing the

shiva

> > > puja,

> > > > and i do not live alone, so i have to integrate that into my

> > > family

> > > > life.

> > > >

> > > > well, my wife is jewish and i had a feeling she looked at me

> > funny

> > > > when i was working on the memorization out loud, on the mat

> with

> > a

> > > > blanket thrown over my head and shoulders ... yes indeed, i

was

> > > > right, i did remind her of a rabbinical scholar busy at his

> > > > prayers ... and i was happy to hear that did not bother her

a

> > bit,

> > > > and she was happy with me.

> > > >

> > > > om shalom!

> > > >

> > > > steve c.

[Guest guest]

This is exactly what I thought, which is why I was surprised to read

Satish's post to the contrary. I mean is Shree Maa's Navarna Mantra

tape just for listening and not for singing along to?

Thanks for posting this though. It is a good reminder for all of us

that don't have the privilege of being in Shree Maa's and Swamiji's

physical company.

Jai Maa!

-

Latha Nanda

Monday, March 01, 2004 3:15 AM

Re: Countdown to Navaratri - Sankalpas- 20 days to go ...

Namaste Surya,I would urge you to refer to

http://www.shreemaa.org/faq.htmand the section onInitiation and

Guru/Disciple relationship Hope this helps.NamasteLatha--- In

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> >

"To practice Navarna mantra japa, one needs to get initiated into >

that mantra from a proper teacher. One should not do japa of this >

mantra from books".> Is this really correct? Is this what Shree Maa

and Swamiji say? I have a feeling not, but what do I know? I hope

someone close at the Mandir, if not Shree Maa or Swamiji Themselves

can comment on this.> > Pranams,> > Surya

[Guest guest]

Interesting concept!

-

bingo_ridley

Monday, March 01, 2004 6:48 AM

Re: Countdown to Navaratri - Sankalpas- 20 days to go ...

ideas for an online Navaratri sankalpa ... hmmm ...the important thing

is, to keep that devotional feeling ...parvati did an online class not

too long that i missed ... how was that event handled, that might

provide some useful ideas.you could likewise maybe do an on-going

chant, where one person "hands off" to another ... an online version

of what i think swami is planning for the future at devi mandir [?]

.... this might involve those little inexpensive webcams, maybe not.so

then, i would say it 4:00 to 6:00, then someone else does 6:00-8:00,

and we plan some sort of shifts so the mantra is continuous through a

certain time line. maybe just an e-mail or post on the forum that the

mantra is being handed off is adequate. that hand-off moment must be

very powerful, as focused as i imagine it must be when one person

takes it up from another in person. so if online is enough i do not

know.anyway this is just an idea, since you asked, i'm not even sure

it is a good one, you guys be the judge ... love y'allsteve--- In

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> wrote:>

Namaste Steve aka Bingo,> > > The navarna mantra is another name for>

> Om Aim Hrim Klim Chamundayai Vicce.> > > The 32 names of Durga is in

beginner Durga Puja book. It is also > called as Durga Dvatrimsannama

Mala. It starts with "Durga Durgaarti > shamani Durga Padvi

nivarini"> > The Siddha Kunjika stotram is in the Chandi book. It is

called the > Key to Perfection and it is said that the recitation of

the Chandi is > incomplete without reciting this stotram at the end.>

> Doing the entire Chandi - nope I havent memorized it - I simply read

> aloud from the text, again with Pranayam. Inhale for the length of >

one Navarna mantra and exhale 1 or 2 verses of the Chandi. > > Re

chanting any or above of all the texts without initiation - I >

wouldnt place too much emphasis on the need for initiation before >

chanting these shlokas. Swamiji repeatedly tells us "Siksha comes >

first then Diksha" ie - we have establish our worthiness as a >

disciple before we can become one. There is an interesting question >

in the FAQ regarding this topic. Would urge you to refer to >

http://www.shreemaa.org/faq/htm> > Hope this has whetted your

appetite for more ) Hey we should think > up of some kinda online

Navaratri sankalpa - any ideas ?> > Keep those posts comin' .> > Jai

Maa> Latha> > > > > > > ,

"bingo_ridley" > <bingo_ridley> wrote:> > latha> > > > hoho you

are really a delight! i like your menu of sankalpas!> > > > i am sure

you will keep us posted on swami's austerities if we are > > brave

enough to try and order one [and have worked up a big > apetite!]> >

> > since i am but a baby-beginner, i will start by asking about > >

the "Small size Sankalpa - to be followed for 9 days"> > > > the

questions:> > > > 1. where can i find the Navarna mantra? i have a

few books from > > shree maa and swami, but have not run across that

....> > > > 2. the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika stotram -- is

that in > the > > durga puja book? i have that but am currently

engrossed in shiva > > puja beginners ... maybe it is in there? i

will look.> > > > 3. when you say "do the entire chandi" you mean,

reading it out > > loud ... do you mean, you memorized the sanskrit

"chandi path" and > > recite out loud?> > > > ??> > > > plus thank

you for the encouragement,> > > > peace,> > > > steve> > > > --- In

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> > >

wrote:> > > Namaste Steve,> > > > > > It was fun to hear of your

chanting experience and the "looks" > > that > > > you got . Keep

going ! Keep at it ! And come back and tell us > > about > > > it !>

> > > > > Regarding the sankalpas that you can take for Navaratri

..... you > > can > > > start small or you can start big. It is upto

your mental makeup > > > really. In my personal case, I am a "do" or

"die trying" kind of > > > person - so doing the entire Chandi at one

shot was the kind that > > I > > > thrive on. But to be fair I had

already nibbled some of it before > > I > > > decided to go all the

way with Chandi.> > > > > > If you want to take a sankalpa, take some

thing that you can > > sustain > > > for the 9 days. > > > > > > Here

is a list of suggested Sankalpas for Navaratri and hoping > > >

people can chime in as well> > > > > > Small size Sankalpa - to be

followed for 9 days> > > > > > 1) One maala of the Navarna mantra

everyday > > > 2) Chant the 32 names of Durga or Siddha Kunjika

stotram once a > day> > > > > > Medium Size Sankalpa> > > > > > 1)

Beginner Durga Puja for the 9 days> > > 2) 11 times of 32 names of

Durga and 11 times of Siddha Kunjika > > > stotram> > > 3) Chanting

Kavach, Argala, Kilakam or doing the entire Prayog of > > > the

Chandi> > > > > > Large Size Sankalpa> > > > > > 1) Doing the Seedha

Path of chandi> > > 2) The entire Chandi - cover to cover> > > > > >

Super Size Sankalpa> > > > > > 1) What ever Swamiji does, plus

fasting , plus Gawd knows what > > else !> > > > > > > > > JAI MAA> >

> Latha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

, "bingo_ridley" > > > <bingo_ridley>

wrote:> > > > hi latha ... thanks again for all this, it is a joy

coming here > > > and > > > > reading.> > > > > > > > here is my

question of the day ... for people like me, who are > > > just > > >

> learning the shiva puja [day 4] ... and who live far away from > >

> > Napa ... can you suggest an appropriate mode of participation >

in > > > > Navaratri ... a sankalpa or particular mantra ... or is

that > > best > > > > left to the individual? i will perhaps fast or

something on > that > > > > order, or get some idea from the posts

here.> > > > > > > > here is something you might enjoy, latha. i am

doing the shiva > > > puja, > > > > and i do not live alone, so i

have to integrate that into my > > > family > > > > life.> > > > > >

> > well, my wife is jewish and i had a feeling she looked at me > >

funny > > > > when i was working on the memorization out loud, on the

mat > with > > a > > > > blanket thrown over my head and shoulders ...

yes indeed, i was > > > > right, i did remind her of a rabbinical

scholar busy at his > > > > prayers ... and i was happy to hear that

did not bother her a > > bit, > > > > and she was happy with me.> > >

> > > > > om shalom!> > > > > > > > steve c.

[Guest guest]

Also to more reiterate the previous point, you are referring to

Kularnava Tantra as if it is a fixed thing. I am sure there is more

than one tradition of what Kulanarva Tantra is and what its proper

translation is. Neither is necessarily more correct than the other.

This is usually a concept hard to grasp for the Western mind and these

days the modern Eastern mind as well.

Bom Mahadev!

-

Satish Arigela

Monday, March 01, 2004 10:01 AM

Re: Countdown to Navaratri - Sankalpas- 20 days to go ...

, "Latha Nanda" <lathananda>

wrote:> Re chanting any or above of all the texts without initiation

- I > wouldnt place too much emphasis on the need for initiation

before > chanting these shlokas. Swamiji repeatedly tells us "Siksha

comes > first then Diksha" ie - we have establish our worthiness as a

> disciple before we can become one. There is an interesting question

> in the FAQ regarding this topic. Would urge you to refer to >

http://www.shreemaa.org/faq/htm For chanting shlokas, one does not

need initiation. For chanting mantras like navarna etc one needs

initiation.Kularnava tantra 15 th chapter sholkas 20 and 21.Japa of a

mantra heard by chance or seen by deceit or picked froma patra(page in

a manuscript)can only lead todisaster. - 20Those who seeing mantras

written in books practise their japacommit a sin tantamount to

Brahminicide resulting in disease andmisery. -21.Those are the words

of Shiva.There are numerous statements like the above in various

tantras.There is no necessity to intentionally disrespect the

shastras bytransgressing them when there is no need to do so.None has

the authority to give sanction to anyone to recite mantras withouty

upadesha.Rgds

[Guest guest]

I fully intend to do the best I can with what resources are available

to me. I have both the Devi Mandir Books and Tapes, so that is what I

will work with. I live on with the hope to re-locate close to the

Devi Mandir. Recent events in my life may allow for that soon.

 

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> This is exactly what I thought, which is why I was surprised to

read Satish's post to the contrary. I mean is Shree Maa's Navarna

Mantra tape just for listening and not for singing along to?

>

> Thanks for posting this though. It is a good reminder for all of

us that don't have the privilege of being in Shree Maa's and

Swamiji's physical company.

>

> Jai Maa!

> -

> Latha Nanda

>

> Monday, March 01, 2004 3:15 AM

> Re: Countdown to Navaratri - Sankalpas- 20

days to go ...

>

>

> Namaste Surya,

>

> I would urge you to refer to

> http://www.shreemaa.org/faq.htm

>

> and the section on

>

> Initiation and Guru/Disciple relationship

>

> Hope this helps.

>

> Namaste

> Latha

>

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:

> >

> > "To practice Navarna mantra japa, one needs to get

initiated

> into

> > that mantra from a proper teacher. One should not do japa of

this

> > mantra from books".

> > Is this really correct? Is this what Shree Maa and Swamiji

say?

> I have a feeling not, but what do I know? I hope someone close

at

> the Mandir, if not Shree Maa or Swamiji Themselves can comment on

> this.

> >

> > Pranams,

> >

> > Surya

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