Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 Coffee Bean <coffeebean4you> wrote: > How does one find the respective Gotra? Swami Satyananda Saraswati writes :- Either you find from your Guru or from your family heritage. Often older relatives might know or a family priest. If you are new, ask your guru. Latha writes : What happens in the case when someone does not have a Guru ? This is specific to those Non-Indians who dont have a Guru and no concept of a family Gotra. Is there any default value they can put when taking any sankalpa ? Swami Satyananda Saraswati writes :- They can use Satyananda Gotra, because that is the lineage from where they have learned the puja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 , "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote: > Why did Shankarchari (spelling) create the gotras? Was he >classifying an existing system just to name what already was, or >was there another purpose?I'm wondering if there is any symbolism. Shankaracharya did not create the gotras. They were crested by the sages. Ex: If a person's gotra is say BhAradhvAja gotra, it means he is a descendant of the sage Bharadhvaja. Similarly, kAsyapasa gotra, meaning descendant of Kasyapa Rishi. Gotra comes from family. Rgds SA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya. Shankaracharya named the ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something different. There were originally seven rishis who knew all the Vedas. After some time it became too much for their disciples to learn it all. So they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches. Each branch was presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name of the Gotra, someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas your family has come, and then which mantras will be most important or effective in that individual's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 you know, when i first heard of shree maa and you, i was concerned about initiation and the like. perhaps because of the difficulty i experienced finding a guru. as it is, and as it was. also, i felt lacking somewhat, not having a lineage, or gotra. now, i do not feel so concerned about these things. steve c. , "swami_satyanandasaraswati" <swami_satyanandasaraswati> wrote: > The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya. Shankaracharya named the > ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something different. > > There were originally seven rishis who knew all the Vedas. After > some time it became too much for their disciples to learn it all. So > they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches. Each branch was > presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name of the Gotra, > someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas your family has > come, and then which mantras will be most important or effective in > that individual's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2004 Report Share Posted March 24, 2004 How does this apply to a non-Indian born person? Is he/she formally excluded from Vedic knowledge, so to speak? - swami_satyanandasaraswati Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:36 PM Re: Gotra Question The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya. Shankaracharya named the ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something different. There were originally seven rishis who knew all the Vedas. After some time it became too much for their disciples to learn it all. So they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches. Each branch was presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name of the Gotra, someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas your family has come, and then which mantras will be most important or effective in that individual's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Gotra formally refer to the lineage of "SaptaRishis", the seven sages. It was a way by which Brahmins trace their lineage to the original sage. The rest of the castes take their gotra from their family priests. So in that sense "Gotra" is more a spiritual lineage than a physical one. Sanjay --- Mahamuni <mahamuni wrote: > How does this apply to a non-Indian born person? Is > he/she formally excluded from Vedic knowledge, so to > speak? > - > swami_satyanandasaraswati > > Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:36 PM > Re: Gotra Question > > > The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya. > Shankaracharya named the > ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something > different. > > There were originally seven rishis who knew all > the Vedas. After > some time it became too much for their disciples > to learn it all. So > they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches. > Each branch was > presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name > of the Gotra, > someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas > your family has > come, and then which mantras will be most > important or effective in > that individual's life. Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > / > > b.. To from this group, send an > email to: > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the > > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2004 Report Share Posted March 25, 2004 Aaahh. This makes sense. - Coffee Bean Thursday, March 25, 2004 11:49 AM Re: Re: Gotra Question Gotra formally refer to the lineage of "SaptaRishis",the seven sages. It was a way by which Brahmins tracetheir lineage to the original sage. The rest of thecastes take their gotra from their family priests. Soin that sense "Gotra" is more a spiritual lineage thana physical one.Sanjay--- Mahamuni <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote:> How does this apply to a non-Indian born person? Is> he/she formally excluded from Vedic knowledge, so to> speak?> - > swami_satyanandasaraswati > > Wednesday, March 24, 2004 7:36 PM> Re: Gotra Question> > > The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya.> Shankaracharya named the > ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something> different. > > There were originally seven rishis who knew all> the Vedas. After > some time it became too much for their disciples> to learn it all. So > they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches.> Each branch was > presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name> of the Gotra, > someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas> your family has > come, and then which mantras will be most> important or effective in > that individual's life.> > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > >> Links> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > b.. To from this group, send an> email to:> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the> > > > Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 30, 2004 Report Share Posted March 30, 2004 All of the mantras ascribed to Bharadwaja are in the Rig Veda. There is a list by rishi. Those are the mantras particularly important to your shakha. , ravi k <dr_karabh> wrote: > Dear Swamiji, > My gotra is bharadwajasa. are there any particular mantras for my gotram that are important or effective for me.Please do reply. > regards, > ravi bharadwaj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Hello Swamiji. This is very interesting. How can one go about tracing one’s gotra to the appropriate set of mantras? My gotram is Harida now that I am married. Do you have an explanation for why women’s gotram names change after marriage, and whether this means that they should use two sets of mantras or not (for the two gotram names that they have had in life). Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. Much love and my humble pranams. Saswati On 3/24/04 7:36 PM, "swami_satyanandasaraswati" <swami_satyanandasaraswati > wrote: The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya. Shankaracharya named the ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something different. There were originally seven rishis who knew all the Vedas. After some time it became too much for their disciples to learn it all. So they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches. Each branch was presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name of the Gotra, someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas your family has come, and then which mantras will be most important or effective in that individual's life. Sponsor <http://rd./SIG=12cdl0d6i/M=267637.4673019.5833256.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1080272273/A=1945638/R=0/SIG=11t2rh2cf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60178383&partid=4673019> / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Namaste Swamiji, I will be very thankful if you can let me know which are the appropriate mantras. I am from the Koundinyasa gothra from my father's side and from the Harithasa from my mother's side. However I have to find out what is the Gothra from my husband's side as his father converted to Christianity and so I have to go to his cousins to find out their original gothra. Can I continue with the mantras from my parents side. namaste sujatha - Saswati B Ramaswami Friday, April 02, 2004 10:32 AM Re: Re: Gotra Question Hello Swamiji. This is very interesting. How can one go about tracing one’s gotra to the appropriate set of mantras? My gotram is Harida now that I am married.Do you have an explanation for why women’s gotram names change after marriage, and whether this means that they should use two sets of mantras or not (for the two gotram names that they have had in life).Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom.Much love and my humble pranams. SaswatiOn 3/24/04 7:36 PM, "swami_satyanandasaraswati" <swami_satyanandasaraswati > wrote: The Gotras were long before Shankaracharya. Shankaracharya named the ten tribes of sannyasis. The Gotras are something different. There were originally seven rishis who knew all the Vedas. After some time it became too much for their disciples to learn it all. So they divided the knowledge into shakas - branches. Each branch was presided over by a Gotra. By recognizing the name of the Gotra, someone can tell from which branch of the Vedas your family has come, and then which mantras will be most important or effective in that individual's life. Sponsor <http://rd./SIG=12cdl0d6i/M=267637.4673019.5833256.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1080272273/A=1945638/R=0/SIG=11t2rh2cf/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60178383&partid=4673019> / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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