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One of the interesting things in one of the books is a phrase used

by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken care of when

he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

 

That could be another way of saying, organizing life for devotion,

with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction increased immensely.

 

How to organize our supply line. He was a young man with great

focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and perhaps

not much karma to drag him down.

 

We all must have our own way of arranging the supply line. For

myself there are many, many things to attend to. But there are

obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for example

current and old taxes.

 

So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes in an

envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, some money is

coming back.

 

Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free more of my

mind and heart for devotion.

 

Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

 

steve

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When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of sadhana, I still

had to go out and shop for food once in a while. Swamiji encouraged

me to find someone who could do that for me. It helps a lot if you

eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every time. The idea is to

keep distraction from worship to an absolute minimum. When the total

focus is on worship, life is glorious. The Goddess takes care of all

the details if you just focus on Her.

"bingo_ridley" <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com>

Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

Arranging a supply line

One of the interesting things in one of the books is a phrase used

by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken care of when

he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

That could be another way of saying, organizing life for devotion,

with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction increased immensely.

How to organize our supply line. He was a young man with great

focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and perhaps

not much karma to drag him down.

We all must have our own way of arranging the supply line. For

myself there are many, many things to attend to. But there are

obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for example

current and old taxes.

So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes in an

envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, some money is

coming back.

Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free more of my

mind and heart for devotion.

Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

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ardis, really interesting ... i wonder if i can reduce towards that

level, but keep everyone in my little family happy, the gov't happy,

etc. ... keeping to your principle but a real different execution,

maybe like that farmer who said "vishnu" 2x a day.

 

anything else you can share on those times with swamiji, i am all

ears and would love to hear about those days.

 

steve

 

, Ardis Jackson <anandamama@e...>

wrote:

> When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of sadhana, I

still had to

> go out and shop for food once in a while. Swamiji encouraged me

to find

> someone who could do that for me. It helps a lot if you eat

simply, one

> meal a day, the same meal every time. The idea is to keep

distraction from

> worship to an absolute minimum. When the total focus is on

worship, life is

> glorious. The Goddess takes care of all the details if you just

focus on

> Her.

>

> "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

>

> Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

>

> Arranging a supply line

>

>

> One of the interesting things in one of the books is a phrase used

> by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken care of

when

> he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

>

> That could be another way of saying, organizing life for devotion,

> with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction increased

immensely.

>

> How to organize our supply line. He was a young man with great

> focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and

perhaps

> not much karma to drag him down.

>

> We all must have our own way of arranging the supply line. For

> myself there are many, many things to attend to. But there are

> obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for example

> current and old taxes.

>

> So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes in an

> envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, some money is

> coming back.

>

> Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free more of my

> mind and heart for devotion.

>

> Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

>

> steve

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These days, in many places, all can be delivered.

On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. It is easy

to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one can use dried

fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires this. It is not

too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just adjust the planning.

Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days on their own as well.

Just some ideas...

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Ardis Jackson

Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

Re: Arranging a supply line

When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of sadhana, I still

had to go out and shop for food once in a while. Swamiji encouraged

me to find someone who could do that for me. It helps a lot if you

eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every time. The idea is to

keep distraction from worship to an absolute minimum. When the total

focus is on worship, life is glorious. The Goddess takes care of all

the details if you just focus on Her.

"bingo_ridley" <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com>

Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000To:

Subject: Arranging a supply

line

One of the interesting things in one of the books is a phrase used by

Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken care of when he

locked himself in the temples to do lengthy sadhana ... "arranging a

supply line."That could be another way of saying, organizing life for

devotion, with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction increased

immensely.How to organize our supply line. He was a young man with

great focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and

perhaps not much karma to drag him down.We all must have our own way

of arranging the supply line. For myself there are many, many things

to attend to. But there are obvious ones I don't want to face that I

must ... for example current and old taxes.So, with the help of

DURGA,I have put the current taxes in an envelope today for the mail

tomorrow ... guess what, some money is coming back.Then, 2 more years

of problem-taxes ... that will free more of my mind and heart for

devotion. Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow,

yellow!steve Sponsor /

 

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mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did you

stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move around?

 

curious sadhu,

 

steve

 

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in many

places, all can be delivered.

>

> On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. It is

easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one can use

dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires this. It

is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

>

> Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just adjust

the planning.

>

> Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days on their

own as well.

>

> Just some ideas...

> -

> Ardis Jackson

>

> Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> Re: Arranging a supply line

>

>

> When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of sadhana, I

still had to go out and shop for food once in a while. Swamiji

encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It helps a

lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every time.

The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute

minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is glorious. The

Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on Her.

>

>

> "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

>

> Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

>

> Arranging a supply line

>

>

>

>

> One of the interesting things in one of the books is a phrase

used

> by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken care

of when

> he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

>

> That could be another way of saying, organizing life for

devotion,

> with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction increased

immensely.

>

> How to organize our supply line. He was a young man with great

> focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and

perhaps

> not much karma to drag him down.

>

> We all must have our own way of arranging the supply line. For

> myself there are many, many things to attend to. But there are

> obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for example

> current and old taxes.

>

> So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes in an

> envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, some

money is

> coming back.

>

> Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free more of

my

> mind and heart for devotion.

>

> Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

>

> steve

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Different things at different times. I've done this more than once,

especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent, usually one

place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice to say I

could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the time.

Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of food. The

master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b maple syrup,

water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and easy. It has

an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with honey and the

cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually a good idea,

though in the master cleanse they do the oral saline flush/purge,

which would just require you to pack some sea salt. A few times I

have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra energy.

Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses with it.

Jai Maa!

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Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

Re: Arranging a supply line

mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did you

stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move

around?curious sadhu,steve,

"Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> Re: Arranging a

supply lineThese days, in many places, all can be delivered.> > On my

extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. It is easy to

bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one can use dried

fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires this. It is not

too hard if you plan it ahead of time.> > Not everyone will be ready

to do one meal a day, so just adjust the planning.> > Of course some

fresh fruit and veggies can last for days on their own as well.> >

Just some ideas...> - > Ardis

Jackson > > Sunday, March

28, 2004 9:33 AM> Re: Arranging a supply

line> > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of

sadhana, I still had to go out and shop for food once in a while.

Swamiji encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It

helps a lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every

time. The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute

minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is glorious. The

Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on Her.> > >

"bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>>

> Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19

-0000> > Subject:

Arranging a supply line> > > > > One of the

interesting things in one of the books is a phrase used > by

Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken care of when >

he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy > sadhana ...

"arranging a supply line."> > That could be another way of

saying, organizing life for devotion, > with the sense of a goal

and focus and reduction increased immensely.> > How to organize

our supply line. He was a young man with great > focus, energy,

it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and perhaps > not much

karma to drag him down.> > We all must have our own way of

arranging the supply line. For > myself there are many, many

things to attend to. But there are > obvious ones I don't want to

face that I must ... for example > current and old taxes.> >

So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes in an >

envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, some money is >

coming back.> > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that

will free more of my > mind and heart for devotion. > > Get

light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!> > steve> > > >

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it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no sadhus

among street people, for example? or maybe they are there, i just

don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is camping

out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two. maybe

whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu population.

 

ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy you. or

should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of God. or

should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or, to

avoid confusion ... "She."

 

jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.

 

 

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> Different things at different times. I've done this more than

once, especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent, usually

one place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice to say I

could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the time.

>

> Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of food.

The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b maple

syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and easy.

It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with honey

and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually a

good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral saline

flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea salt. A

few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra

energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses with

it.

>

> Jai Maa!

> -

> bingo_ridley

>

> Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

> Re: Arranging a supply line

>

>

> mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did you

> stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move

around?

>

> curious sadhu,

>

> steve

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:

> > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in many

> places, all can be delivered.

> >

> > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. It is

> easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one can

use

> dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires this.

It

> is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

> >

> > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just adjust

> the planning.

> >

> > Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days on

their

> own as well.

> >

> > Just some ideas...

> > -

> > Ardis Jackson

> >

> > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> > Re: Arranging a supply line

> >

> >

> > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of sadhana, I

> still had to go out and shop for food once in a while. Swamiji

> encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It helps

a

> lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every time.

> The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute

> minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is glorious.

The

> Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on Her.

> >

> >

> > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> >

> > Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

> >

> > Arranging a supply line

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > One of the interesting things in one of the books is a

phrase

> used

> > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken

care

> of when

> > he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> > sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

> >

> > That could be another way of saying, organizing life for

> devotion,

> > with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction increased

> immensely.

> >

> > How to organize our supply line. He was a young man with

great

> > focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru,

and

> perhaps

> > not much karma to drag him down.

> >

> > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply line.

For

> > myself there are many, many things to attend to. But there

are

> > obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for

example

> > current and old taxes.

> >

> > So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes in

an

> > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, some

> money is

> > coming back.

> >

> > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free more

of

> my

> > mind and heart for devotion.

> >

> > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

> >

> > steve

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What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused by your post.

Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so openly, so often you can

mistake them for just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.

I think there are more than you think who take to the hills for a

retreat. Not as many as we would all like, but certainly more than 1

or 2.

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Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20 AM

Re: Arranging a supply line

it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no sadhus

among street people, for example? or maybe they are there, i just

don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is camping

out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two. maybe

whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu

population.ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy

you. or should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of

God. or should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ...

or, to avoid confusion ... "She."jai maa! say hello to shivapuri

baba., "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:> Different things at different times. I've done this more

than once, especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent,

usually one place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice

to say I could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the

time.> > Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of

food. The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b

maple syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and

easy. It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with

honey and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually

a good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral saline

flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea salt. A

few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra

energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses with

it.> > Jai Maa!> - >

bingo_ridley > > Sunday,

March 28, 2004 5:41 PM> Re: Arranging a

supply line> > > mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent?

how long did you > stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or

did you move around?> > curious sadhu,> > steve> > --- In

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> >

Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in many >

places, all can be delivered.> > > > On my extended sits, I

usually went out into the forest. It is > easy to bring enough

grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one can use > dried fruits and

veggies and reconstitute if one desires this. It > is not too hard

if you plan it ahead of time.> > > > Not everyone will be ready to

do one meal a day, so just adjust > the planning.> > > > Of

course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days on their >

own as well.> > > > Just some ideas...> > ----- Original

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> > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33

AM> > Re: Arranging a supply line> > >

> > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of sadhana,

I > still had to go out and shop for food once in a while. Swamiji

> encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It helps

a > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every time.

> The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute >

minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is glorious. The

> Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on Her.>

> > > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>> >

> > Sun, 28 Mar 2004

15:39:19 -0000> > > >

Arranging a supply line> > > > > > > >

> > One of the interesting things in one of the books is a

phrase > used > > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and

materials taken care > of when > > he locked himself in the

temples to do lengthy > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply

line."> > > > That could be another way of saying, organizing

life for > devotion, > > with the sense of a goal and focus

and reduction increased > immensely.> > > > How to organize

our supply line. He was a young man with great > > focus,

energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated guru, and > perhaps >

> not much karma to drag him down.> > > > We all must have

our own way of arranging the supply line. For > > myself there

are many, many things to attend to. But there are > > obvious

ones I don't want to face that I must ... for example > >

current and old taxes.> > > > So, with the help of DURGA,I

have put the current taxes in an > > envelope today for the

mail tomorrow ... guess what, some > money is > > coming

back.> > > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that

will free more of > my > > mind and heart for devotion. > >

> > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!> > > >

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i mean, in north america. that the culture of wandering sadhus is not

seen here. when we have this wealth, and interest in spirituality. it

could be done more than it is. retreating to the forest. the ascetic

part, that is not so popular. the tendency is, more, to make a great

life, use spirit to get the car, that sort of thing. over time

perhaps this will be seen for what it is. then our forests will be

filled with taoists, sadhus, etc. we will see little temples at the

side of the road. why not here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part of

such a transformation.

 

it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but the "face"

of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers, more

than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near

wimberly and such.

 

steve

 

 

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:

> What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused by

your post.

>

> Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so openly, so often you can

mistake them for just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.

>

> I think there are more than you think who take to the hills for a

retreat. Not as many as we would all like, but certainly more than 1

or 2.

> -

> bingo_ridley

>

> Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20 AM

> Re: Arranging a supply line

>

>

> it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no

sadhus

> among street people, for example? or maybe they are there, i just

> don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is

camping

> out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two. maybe

> whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu

population.

>

> ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy you. or

> should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of God. or

> should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or,

to

> avoid confusion ... "She."

>

> jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.

>

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:

> > Different things at different times. I've done this more than

> once, especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent,

usually

> one place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice to

say I

> could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the time.

> >

> > Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of

food.

> The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b

maple

> syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and

easy.

> It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with

honey

> and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually a

> good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral saline

> flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea salt.

A

> few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra

> energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses

with

> it.

> >

> > Jai Maa!

> > -

> > bingo_ridley

> >

> > Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

> > Re: Arranging a supply line

> >

> >

> > mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did

you

> > stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move

> around?

> >

> > curious sadhu,

> >

> > steve

> >

> > , "Mahamuni"

<mahamuni@c...>

> wrote:

> > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in

many

> > places, all can be delivered.

> > >

> > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest.

It is

> > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one

can

> use

> > dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires

this.

> It

> > is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

> > >

> > > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just

adjust

> > the planning.

> > >

> > > Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days on

> their

> > own as well.

> > >

> > > Just some ideas...

> > > -

> > > Ardis Jackson

> > >

> > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > >

> > >

> > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of

sadhana, I

> > still had to go out and shop for food once in a while.

Swamiji

> > encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It

helps

> a

> > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every

time.

> > The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute

> > minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is

glorious.

> The

> > Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on

Her.

> > >

> > >

> > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> > >

> > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

> > >

> > > Arranging a supply line

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > One of the interesting things in one of the books is a

> phrase

> > used

> > > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken

> care

> > of when

> > > he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

> > >

> > > That could be another way of saying, organizing life

for

> > devotion,

> > > with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction

increased

> > immensely.

> > >

> > > How to organize our supply line. He was a young man

with

> great

> > > focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated

guru,

> and

> > perhaps

> > > not much karma to drag him down.

> > >

> > > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply

line.

> For

> > > myself there are many, many things to attend to. But

there

> are

> > > obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for

> example

> > > current and old taxes.

> > >

> > > So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current taxes

in

> an

> > > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what,

some

> > money is

> > > coming back.

> > >

> > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free

more

> of

> > my

> > > mind and heart for devotion.

> > >

> > > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

> > >

> > > steve

> > >

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Steve,

 

I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in this

country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities, where

one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana. There

are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing, feeding

and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would be

difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the country.

 

Chris

 

 

 

, "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

wrote:

> i mean, in north america. that the culture of wandering sadhus is

not

> seen here. when we have this wealth, and interest in spirituality.

it

> could be done more than it is. retreating to the forest. the

ascetic

> part, that is not so popular. the tendency is, more, to make a

great

> life, use spirit to get the car, that sort of thing. over time

> perhaps this will be seen for what it is. then our forests will be

> filled with taoists, sadhus, etc. we will see little temples at the

> side of the road. why not here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part

of

> such a transformation.

>

> it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but

the "face"

> of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers,

more

> than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near

> wimberly and such.

>

> steve

>

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:

> > What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused by

> your post.

> >

> > Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so openly, so often you

can

> mistake them for just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.

> >

> > I think there are more than you think who take to the hills for a

> retreat. Not as many as we would all like, but certainly more than

1

> or 2.

> > -

> > bingo_ridley

> >

> > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20 AM

> > Re: Arranging a supply line

> >

> >

> > it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no

> sadhus

> > among street people, for example? or maybe they are there, i

just

> > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is

> camping

> > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two. maybe

> > whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu

> population.

> >

> > ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy you.

or

> > should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of God.

or

> > should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or,

> to

> > avoid confusion ... "She."

> >

> > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.

> >

> >

> > , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

> wrote:

> > > Different things at different times. I've done this more

than

> > once, especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent,

> usually

> > one place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice to

> say I

> > could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the time.

> > >

> > > Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of

> food.

> > The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b

> maple

> > syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and

> easy.

> > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with

> honey

> > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually

a

> > good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral saline

> > flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea

salt.

> A

> > few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra

> > energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses

> with

> > it.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa!

> > > -

> > > bingo_ridley

> > >

> > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

> > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > >

> > >

> > > mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long

did

> you

> > > stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move

> > around?

> > >

> > > curious sadhu,

> > >

> > > steve

> > >

> > > , "Mahamuni"

> <mahamuni@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in

> many

> > > places, all can be delivered.

> > > >

> > > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest.

> It is

> > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one

> can

> > use

> > > dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires

> this.

> > It

> > > is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

> > > >

> > > > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just

> adjust

> > > the planning.

> > > >

> > > > Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days

on

> > their

> > > own as well.

> > > >

> > > > Just some ideas...

> > > > -

> > > > Ardis Jackson

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> > > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of

> sadhana, I

> > > still had to go out and shop for food once in a while.

> Swamiji

> > > encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It

> helps

> > a

> > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every

> time.

> > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute

> > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is

> glorious.

> > The

> > > Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on

> Her.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Arranging a supply line

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > One of the interesting things in one of the books is

a

> > phrase

> > > used

> > > > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials

taken

> > care

> > > of when

> > > > he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

> > > >

> > > > That could be another way of saying, organizing life

> for

> > > devotion,

> > > > with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction

> increased

> > > immensely.

> > > >

> > > > How to organize our supply line. He was a young man

> with

> > great

> > > > focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated

> guru,

> > and

> > > perhaps

> > > > not much karma to drag him down.

> > > >

> > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply

> line.

> > For

> > > > myself there are many, many things to attend to. But

> there

> > are

> > > > obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for

> > example

> > > > current and old taxes.

> > > >

> > > > So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current

taxes

> in

> > an

> > > > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what,

> some

> > > money is

> > > > coming back.

> > > >

> > > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will

free

> more

> > of

> > > my

> > > > mind and heart for devotion.

> > > >

> > > > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

> > > >

> > > > steve

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Sponsor

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -------------------------

--

> ----

> > ---

> > > ---------

> > > >

> > > > Links

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > b.. /

> > > > c..

> > > > d.. To from this group, send an email

to:

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yes i think it is difficult too. something must be done to change

this, chris!

 

, "Chris Kirner"

<chriskirner1956> wrote:

> Steve,

>

> I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in this

> country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities, where

> one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

> violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana.

There

> are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing,

feeding

> and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would be

> difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

> source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the country.

>

> Chris

>

>

>

> , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> wrote:

> > i mean, in north america. that the culture of wandering sadhus is

> not

> > seen here. when we have this wealth, and interest in

spirituality.

> it

> > could be done more than it is. retreating to the forest. the

> ascetic

> > part, that is not so popular. the tendency is, more, to make a

> great

> > life, use spirit to get the car, that sort of thing. over time

> > perhaps this will be seen for what it is. then our forests will

be

> > filled with taoists, sadhus, etc. we will see little temples at

the

> > side of the road. why not here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji,

part

> of

> > such a transformation.

> >

> > it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but

> the "face"

> > of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers,

> more

> > than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near

> > wimberly and such.

> >

> > steve

> >

> >

> > , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

> wrote:

> > > What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused by

> > your post.

> > >

> > > Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so openly, so often you

> can

> > mistake them for just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.

> > >

> > > I think there are more than you think who take to the hills for

a

> > retreat. Not as many as we would all like, but certainly more

than

> 1

> > or 2.

> > > -

> > > bingo_ridley

> > >

> > > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20 AM

> > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > >

> > >

> > > it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no

> > sadhus

> > > among street people, for example? or maybe they are there, i

> just

> > > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is

> > camping

> > > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two.

maybe

> > > whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu

> > population.

> > >

> > > ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy you.

> or

> > > should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of

God.

> or

> > > should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ...

or,

> > to

> > > avoid confusion ... "She."

> > >

> > > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Mahamuni"

<mahamuni@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > > Different things at different times. I've done this more

> than

> > > once, especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent,

> > usually

> > > one place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice

to

> > say I

> > > could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the

time.

> > > >

> > > > Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of

> > food.

> > > The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b

> > maple

> > > syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great

and

> > easy.

> > > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple

with

> > honey

> > > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are

usually

> a

> > > good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral

saline

> > > flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea

> salt.

> > A

> > > few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for

extra

> > > energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of

algaes/grasses

> > with

> > > it.

> > > >

> > > > Jai Maa!

> > > > -

> > > > bingo_ridley

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

> > > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long

> did

> > you

> > > > stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you

move

> > > around?

> > > >

> > > > curious sadhu,

> > > >

> > > > steve

> > > >

> > > > , "Mahamuni"

> > <mahamuni@c...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in

> > many

> > > > places, all can be delivered.

> > > > >

> > > > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the

forest.

> > It is

> > > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then

one

> > can

> > > use

> > > > dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires

> > this.

> > > It

> > > > is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so

just

> > adjust

> > > > the planning.

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for

days

> on

> > > their

> > > > own as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just some ideas...

> > > > > -

> > > > > Ardis Jackson

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> > > > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of

> > sadhana, I

> > > > still had to go out and shop for food once in a while.

> > Swamiji

> > > > encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me.

It

> > helps

> > > a

> > > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal

every

> > time.

> > > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an

absolute

> > > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is

> > glorious.

> > > The

> > > > Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus

on

> > Her.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > > Arranging a supply line

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > One of the interesting things in one of the books

is

> a

> > > phrase

> > > > used

> > > > > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials

> taken

> > > care

> > > > of when

> > > > > he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> > > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

> > > > >

> > > > > That could be another way of saying, organizing

life

> > for

> > > > devotion,

> > > > > with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction

> > increased

> > > > immensely.

> > > > >

> > > > > How to organize our supply line. He was a young man

> > with

> > > great

> > > > > focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated

> > guru,

> > > and

> > > > perhaps

> > > > > not much karma to drag him down.

> > > > >

> > > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the

supply

> > line.

> > > For

> > > > > myself there are many, many things to attend to.

But

> > there

> > > are

> > > > > obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ...

for

> > > example

> > > > > current and old taxes.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current

> taxes

> > in

> > > an

> > > > > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess

what,

> > some

> > > > money is

> > > > > coming back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will

> free

> > more

> > > of

> > > > my

> > > > > mind and heart for devotion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

> > > > >

> > > > > steve

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hi All,

Just to "ring" in on this one. Being a householder with a hubbie,

kids, mortgage and maybe a dog, I have often fantasized about being a

monk. I would go and live at an ashram and do saddhana nonstop. I

would write books about how to transition from householder to monk

smoothly. I would absorb negativity and transform it into pure love.

The beautiful thing is that now I realize that this family and house

(and van and grill and lawn....) IS my saddhana. I get it now. I

have the grace of this incredible family to mirror to me where I need

to improve--where I can be more selfless, where I can serve more. I

blow it all the time, but I'm learning. And for this seeker there

would be no other way to learn what I need to. I don't have to go to

India, I don't have to wander I can just keep the meals, laundry and

car-pool running along--keep hugging and loving. And when I look

into their pure faces and the love in their eyes goes on forever I

know I'm in the right place, doing the right thing.

Of course a tent in the forest does sound heavenly...hmmmm :)

I'm not arguing with anybody here--just sharing a learning. A big one for me.

Much love, many blessings!

Lynne

PS, Lathji--awesome class, thank you, thank you, pranams to all!

-

Chris Kirner

Monday, March 29, 2004 4:44 PM

Re: Arranging a supply line

Steve,I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in

this country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities,

where one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana. There

are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing, feeding

and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would be

difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the

country.Chris, "bingo_ridley"

<sconnor@a...> wrote:> i mean, in north america. that the culture of

wandering sadhus is not > seen here. when we have this wealth, and

interest in spirituality. it > could be done more than it is.

retreating to the forest. the ascetic > part, that is not so popular.

the tendency is, more, to make a great > life, use spirit to get the

car, that sort of thing. over time > perhaps this will be seen for

what it is. then our forests will be > filled with taoists, sadhus,

etc. we will see little temples at the > side of the road. why not

here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part of > such a transformation.>

> it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but the "face"

> of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers, more

> than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near >

wimberly and such.> > steve> > > ,

"Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> > What exactly do you think is so

rare? I'm a little confused by > your post.> > > > Not every "sadhu"

displays him/herself so openly, so often you can > mistake them for

just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.> > > > I think there are more

than you think who take to the hills for a > retreat. Not as many as

we would all like, but certainly more than 1 > or 2.> > -----

Original Message ----- > > bingo_ridley > > To:

> > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20

AM> > Re: Arranging a supply line> > > > > >

it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no >

sadhus > > among street people, for example? or maybe they are

there, i just > > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who

know who is > camping > > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe

only one or two. maybe > > whenever you pitch that tent, you are

doubling the sadhu > population.> > > > ahh, such a glory to be

outside and live for god. i envy you. or > > should i say, "i envy

Me" since we are both emanations of God. or > > should i say, since

there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or, > to > > avoid confusion

.... "She."> > > > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.> > > > > >

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> >

wrote:> > > Different things at different times. I've done this

more than > > once, especially before I became a householder.

Alone, tent, > usually > > one place. The rest is not for the ears

of others. Suffice to > say I > > could never do enough but I did

as much as I could at the time.> > > > > > Fasting also takes

care of the need to pack a great deal of > food. > > The master

cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b > maple > >

syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and >

easy. > > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the

maple with > honey > > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas

or basti are usually a > > good idea, though in the master cleanse

they do the oral saline > > flush/purge, which would just require

you to pack some sea salt. > A > > few times I have added Yerba

Mate to the fasting brew for extra > > energy. Sometimes I have

taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses > with > > it.> > > > > >

Jai Maa!> > > - > > >

bingo_ridley > > > > > >

Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM> > >

Re: Arranging a supply line> > > > > > > > > mahamuni, did

you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did > you > > > stay?

did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move > > around?> >

> > > > curious sadhu,> > > > > > steve> > > > > >

, "Mahamuni" > <mahamuni@c...> > >

wrote:> > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese

days, in > many > > > places, all can be delivered.> > > > >

> > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. >

It is > > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then

one > can > > use > > > dried fruits and veggies and

reconstitute if one desires > this. > > It > > > is not too

hard if you plan it ahead of time.> > > > > > > > Not

everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just > adjust > > >

the planning.> > > > > > > > Of course some fresh fruit and

veggies can last for days on > > their > > > own as well.> >

> > > > > > Just some ideas...> > > > ----- Original

Message ----- > > > > Ardis Jackson > > > > To:

> > > > Sunday, March 28,

2004 9:33 AM> > > > Re: Arranging a

supply line> > > > > > > > > > > > When I was living

alone in Marin and doing lots of > sadhana, I > > > still had to

go out and shop for food once in a while. > Swamiji > > >

encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It > helps >

> a > > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal

every > time. > > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship

to an absolute > > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship,

life is > glorious. > > The > > > Goddess takes care of all the

details if you just focus on > Her.> > > > > > > > > > > >

"bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>> > > >

> > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004

15:39:19 -0000> > > > > > >

> Arranging a supply line> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the interesting

things in one of the books is a > > phrase > > > used > > >

> by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken > >

care > > > of when > > > > he locked himself in the

temples to do lengthy > > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply

line."> > > > > > > > That could be another way of saying,

organizing life > for > > > devotion, > > > > with the

sense of a goal and focus and reduction > increased > > >

immensely.> > > > > > > > How to organize our supply

line. He was a young man > with > > great > > > > focus,

energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated > guru, > > and > > >

perhaps > > > > not much karma to drag him down.> > > >

> > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply

> line. > > For > > > > myself there are many, many things

to attend to. But > there > > are > > > > obvious ones I

don't want to face that I must ... for > > example > > > >

current and old taxes.> > > > > > > > So, with the help

of DURGA,I have put the current taxes > in > > an > > > >

envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, > some > > >

money is > > > > coming back.> > > > > > > > Then,

2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free > more > > of > >

> my > > > > mind and heart for devotion. > > > > > >

> > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!> > >

> > > > > steve> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Sponsor > > > > > > > > >

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It is not easy to be a wandering sadhu anywhere. It is not supposed to be easy.

Peace Pilgrim did it without a problem. There have been others. I

have known a few. They don't advertise so few know them.

But yes, this culture is very different. We don't have a "caste" so

to speak, of renunciates, and the cultural upbringing to support

them.

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Chris Kirner

Monday, March 29, 2004 1:44 PM

Re: Arranging a supply line

Steve,I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in

this country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities,

where one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana. There

are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing, feeding

and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would be

difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the

country.Chris, "bingo_ridley"

<sconnor@a...> wrote:> i mean, in north america. that the culture of

wandering sadhus is not > seen here. when we have this wealth, and

interest in spirituality. it > could be done more than it is.

retreating to the forest. the ascetic > part, that is not so popular.

the tendency is, more, to make a great > life, use spirit to get the

car, that sort of thing. over time > perhaps this will be seen for

what it is. then our forests will be > filled with taoists, sadhus,

etc. we will see little temples at the > side of the road. why not

here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part of > such a transformation.>

> it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but the "face"

> of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers, more

> than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near >

wimberly and such.> > steve> > > ,

"Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> > What exactly do you think is so

rare? I'm a little confused by > your post.> > > > Not every "sadhu"

displays him/herself so openly, so often you can > mistake them for

just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.> > > > I think there are more

than you think who take to the hills for a > retreat. Not as many as

we would all like, but certainly more than 1 > or 2.> > -----

Original Message ----- > > bingo_ridley > > To:

> > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20

AM> > Re: Arranging a supply line> > > > > >

it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no >

sadhus > > among street people, for example? or maybe they are

there, i just > > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who

know who is > camping > > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe

only one or two. maybe > > whenever you pitch that tent, you are

doubling the sadhu > population.> > > > ahh, such a glory to be

outside and live for god. i envy you. or > > should i say, "i envy

Me" since we are both emanations of God. or > > should i say, since

there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or, > to > > avoid confusion

.... "She."> > > > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.> > > > > >

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> >

wrote:> > > Different things at different times. I've done this

more than > > once, especially before I became a householder.

Alone, tent, > usually > > one place. The rest is not for the ears

of others. Suffice to > say I > > could never do enough but I did

as much as I could at the time.> > > > > > Fasting also takes

care of the need to pack a great deal of > food. > > The master

cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b > maple > >

syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and >

easy. > > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the

maple with > honey > > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas

or basti are usually a > > good idea, though in the master cleanse

they do the oral saline > > flush/purge, which would just require

you to pack some sea salt. > A > > few times I have added Yerba

Mate to the fasting brew for extra > > energy. Sometimes I have

taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses > with > > it.> > > > > >

Jai Maa!> > > - > > >

bingo_ridley > > > > > >

Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM> > >

Re: Arranging a supply line> > > > > > > > > mahamuni, did

you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did > you > > > stay?

did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move > > around?> >

> > > > curious sadhu,> > > > > > steve> > > > > >

, "Mahamuni" > <mahamuni@c...> > >

wrote:> > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese

days, in > many > > > places, all can be delivered.> > > > >

> > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. >

It is > > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then

one > can > > use > > > dried fruits and veggies and

reconstitute if one desires > this. > > It > > > is not too

hard if you plan it ahead of time.> > > > > > > > Not

everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just > adjust > > >

the planning.> > > > > > > > Of course some fresh fruit and

veggies can last for days on > > their > > > own as well.> >

> > > > > > Just some ideas...> > > > ----- Original

Message ----- > > > > Ardis Jackson > > > > To:

> > > > Sunday, March 28,

2004 9:33 AM> > > > Re: Arranging a

supply line> > > > > > > > > > > > When I was living

alone in Marin and doing lots of > sadhana, I > > > still had to

go out and shop for food once in a while. > Swamiji > > >

encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It > helps >

> a > > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal

every > time. > > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship

to an absolute > > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship,

life is > glorious. > > The > > > Goddess takes care of all the

details if you just focus on > Her.> > > > > > > > > > > >

"bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>> > > >

> > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004

15:39:19 -0000> > > > > > >

> Arranging a supply line> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the interesting

things in one of the books is a > > phrase > > > used > > >

> by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken > >

care > > > of when > > > > he locked himself in the

temples to do lengthy > > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply

line."> > > > > > > > That could be another way of saying,

organizing life > for > > > devotion, > > > > with the

sense of a goal and focus and reduction > increased > > >

immensely.> > > > > > > > How to organize our supply

line. He was a young man > with > > great > > > > focus,

energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated > guru, > > and > > >

perhaps > > > > not much karma to drag him down.> > > >

> > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply

> line. > > For > > > > myself there are many, many things

to attend to. But > there > > are > > > > obvious ones I

don't want to face that I must ... for > > example > > > >

current and old taxes.> > > > > > > > So, with the help

of DURGA,I have put the current taxes > in > > an > > > >

envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, > some > > >

money is > > > > coming back.> > > > > > > > Then,

2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free > more > > of > >

> my > > > > mind and heart for devotion. > > > > > >

> > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!> > >

> > > > > steve> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> Sponsor > > > > > > > > >

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Yes! Absolutely true! But occasional retreat for a householder is a

very good thing. Even if just to recharge the batteries!

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Lynne McKinnon

Monday, March 29, 2004 2:58 PM

Re: Re: Arranging a supply line

Hi All,

Just to "ring" in on this one. Being a householder with a hubbie,

kids, mortgage and maybe a dog, I have often fantasized about being a

monk. I would go and live at an ashram and do saddhana nonstop. I

would write books about how to transition from householder to monk

smoothly. I would absorb negativity and transform it into pure love.

The beautiful thing is that now I realize that this family and house

(and van and grill and lawn....) IS my saddhana. I get it now. I

have the grace of this incredible family to mirror to me where I need

to improve--where I can be more selfless, where I can serve more. I

blow it all the time, but I'm learning. And for this seeker there

would be no other way to learn what I need to. I don't have to go to

India, I don't have to wander I can just keep the meals, laundry and

car-pool running along--keep hugging and loving. And when I look

into their pure faces and the love in their eyes goes on forever I

know I'm in the right place, doing the right thing.

Of course a tent in the forest does sound heavenly...hmmmm :)

I'm not arguing with anybody here--just sharing a learning. A big one for me.

Much love, many blessings!

Lynne

PS, Lathji--awesome class, thank you, thank you, pranams to all!

-

Chris Kirner

Monday, March 29, 2004 4:44 PM

Re: Arranging a supply line

Steve,I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in

this country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities,

where one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana. There

are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing, feeding

and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would be

difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the

country.Chris, "bingo_ridley"

<sconnor@a...> wrote:> i mean, in north america. that the culture of

wandering sadhus is not > seen here. when we have this wealth, and

interest in spirituality. it > could be done more than it is.

retreating to the forest. the ascetic > part, that is not so popular.

the tendency is, more, to make a great > life, use spirit to get the

car, that sort of thing. over time > perhaps this will be seen for

what it is. then our forests will be > filled with taoists, sadhus,

etc. we will see little temples at the > side of the road. why not

here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part of > such a transformation.>

> it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but the "face"

> of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers, more

> than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near >

wimberly and such.> > steve> > > ,

"Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> > What exactly do you think is so

rare? I'm a little confused by > your post.> > > > Not every "sadhu"

displays him/herself so openly, so often you can > mistake them for

just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.> > > > I think there are more

than you think who take to the hills for a > retreat. Not as many as

we would all like, but certainly more than 1 > or 2.> > -----

Original Message ----- > > bingo_ridley > > To:

> > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20

AM> > Re: Arranging a supply line> > > > > >

it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no >

sadhus > > among street people, for example? or maybe they are

there, i just > > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who

know who is > camping > > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe

only one or two. maybe > > whenever you pitch that tent, you are

doubling the sadhu > population.> > > > ahh, such a glory to be

outside and live for god. i envy you. or > > should i say, "i envy

Me" since we are both emanations of God. or > > should i say, since

there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or, > to > > avoid confusion

.... "She."> > > > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.> > > > > >

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> >

wrote:> > > Different things at different times. I've done this

more than > > once, especially before I became a householder.

Alone, tent, > usually > > one place. The rest is not for the ears

of others. Suffice to > say I > > could never do enough but I did

as much as I could at the time.> > > > > > Fasting also takes

care of the need to pack a great deal of > food. > > The master

cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b > maple > >

syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and >

easy. > > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the

maple with > honey > > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas

or basti are usually a > > good idea, though in the master cleanse

they do the oral saline > > flush/purge, which would just require

you to pack some sea salt. > A > > few times I have added Yerba

Mate to the fasting brew for extra > > energy. Sometimes I have

taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses > with > > it.> > > > > >

Jai Maa!> > > - > > >

bingo_ridley > > > > > >

Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM> > >

Re: Arranging a supply line> > > > > > > > > mahamuni, did

you go alone? did you have a tent? how long did > you > > > stay?

did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move > > around?> >

> > > > curious sadhu,> > > > > > steve> > > > > >

, "Mahamuni" > <mahamuni@c...> > >

wrote:> > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese

days, in > many > > > places, all can be delivered.> > > > >

> > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. >

It is > > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then

one > can > > use > > > dried fruits and veggies and

reconstitute if one desires > this. > > It > > > is not too

hard if you plan it ahead of time.> > > > > > > > Not

everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just > adjust > > >

the planning.> > > > > > > > Of course some fresh fruit and

veggies can last for days on > > their > > > own as well.> >

> > > > > > Just some ideas...> > > > ----- Original

Message ----- > > > > Ardis Jackson > > > > To:

> > > > Sunday, March 28,

2004 9:33 AM> > > > Re: Arranging a

supply line> > > > > > > > > > > > When I was living

alone in Marin and doing lots of > sadhana, I > > > still had to

go out and shop for food once in a while. > Swamiji > > >

encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It > helps >

> a > > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal

every > time. > > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship

to an absolute > > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship,

life is > glorious. > > The > > > Goddess takes care of all the

details if you just focus on > Her.> > > > > > > > > > > >

"bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>> > > >

> > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004

15:39:19 -0000> > > > > > >

> Arranging a supply line> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the interesting

things in one of the books is a > > phrase > > > used > > >

> by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials taken > >

care > > > of when > > > > he locked himself in the

temples to do lengthy > > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply

line."> > > > > > > > That could be another way of saying,

organizing life > for > > > devotion, > > > > with the

sense of a goal and focus and reduction > increased > > >

immensely.> > > > > > > > How to organize our supply

line. He was a young man > with > > great > > > > focus,

energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated > guru, > > and > > >

perhaps > > > > not much karma to drag him down.> > > >

> > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply

> line. > > For > > > > myself there are many, many things

to attend to. But > there > > are > > > > obvious ones I

don't want to face that I must ... for > > example > > > >

current and old taxes.> > > > > > > > So, with the help

of DURGA,I have put the current taxes > in > > an > > > >

envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, > some > > >

money is > > > > coming back.> > > > > > > > Then,

2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will free > more > > of > >

> my > > > > mind and heart for devotion. > > > > > >

> > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!> > >

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That is truly beautiful and beautifully true. Thank you sweet Lynne.

And when the householder days are over you can decide if you want to

go to the forest like I have.

Love,

Ardis

"Lynne McKinnon" <omgirl (AT) patmedia (DOT) net>

Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:58:35 -0500

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Re: Re: Arranging a supply line

Hi All,

Just to "ring" in on this one. Being a householder with a hubbie,

kids, mortgage and maybe a dog, I have often fantasized about being a

monk. I would go and live at an ashram and do saddhana nonstop. I

would write books about how to transition from householder to monk

smoothly. I would absorb negativity and transform it into pure love.

The beautiful thing is that now I realize that this family and house

(and van and grill and lawn....) IS my saddhana. I get it now. I

have the grace of this incredible family to mirror to me where I need

to improve--where I can be more selfless, where I can serve more. I

blow it all the time, but I'm learning. And for this seeker there

would be no other way to learn what I need to. I don't have to go to

India, I don't have to wander I can just keep the meals, laundry and

car-pool running along--keep hugging and loving. And when I look

into their pure faces and the love in their eyes goes on forever I

know I'm in the right place, doing the right thing.

Of course a tent in the forest does sound heavenly...hmmmm :)

I'm not arguing with anybody here--just sharing a learning. A big one for me.

Much love, many blessings!

Lynne

PS, Lathji--awesome class, thank you, thank you, pranams to all!

-

Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 >

Monday, March 29, 2004 4:44 PM

Re: Arranging a supply line

Steve,

I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in this

country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities, where

one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana. There

are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing, feeding

and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would be

difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the country.

Chris

, "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

wrote:

> i mean, in north america. that the culture of wandering sadhus is

not

> seen here. when we have this wealth, and interest in spirituality.

it

> could be done more than it is. retreating to the forest. the

ascetic

> part, that is not so popular. the tendency is, more, to make a

great

> life, use spirit to get the car, that sort of thing. over time

> perhaps this will be seen for what it is. then our forests will be

> filled with taoists, sadhus, etc. we will see little temples at the

> side of the road. why not here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part

of

> such a transformation.

>

> it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but

the "face"

> of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers,

more

> than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near

> wimberly and such.

>

> steve

>

>

> , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

wrote:

> > What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused by

> your post.

> >

> > Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so openly, so often you

can

> mistake them for just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.

> >

> > I think there are more than you think who take to the hills for a

> retreat. Not as many as we would all like, but certainly more than

1

> or 2.

> > -

> > bingo_ridley

> >

> > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20 AM

> > Re: Arranging a supply line

> >

> >

> > it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why no

> sadhus

> > among street people, for example? or maybe they are there, i

just

> > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is

> camping

> > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two. maybe

> > whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu

> population.

> >

> > ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy you.

or

> > should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of God.

or

> > should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ... or,

> to

> > avoid confusion ... "She."

> >

> > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.

> >

> >

> > , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

> wrote:

> > > Different things at different times. I've done this more

than

> > once, especially before I became a householder. Alone, tent,

> usually

> > one place. The rest is not for the ears of others. Suffice to

> say I

> > could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the time.

> > >

> > > Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of

> food.

> > The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade b

> maple

> > syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great and

> easy.

> > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with

> honey

> > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually

a

> > good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral saline

> > flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea

salt.

> A

> > few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra

> > energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses

> with

> > it.

> > >

> > > Jai Maa!

> > > -

> > > bingo_ridley

> > >

> > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

> > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > >

> > >

> > > mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how long

did

> you

> > > stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move

> > around?

> > >

> > > curious sadhu,

> > >

> > > steve

> > >

> > > , "Mahamuni"

> <mahamuni@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days, in

> many

> > > places, all can be delivered.

> > > >

> > > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest.

> It is

> > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then one

> can

> > use

> > > dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one desires

> this.

> > It

> > > is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

> > > >

> > > > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just

> adjust

> > > the planning.

> > > >

> > > > Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days

on

> > their

> > > own as well.

> > > >

> > > > Just some ideas...

> > > > -

> > > > Ardis Jackson

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> > > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of

> sadhana, I

> > > still had to go out and shop for food once in a while.

> Swamiji

> > > encouraged me to find someone who could do that for me. It

> helps

> > a

> > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal every

> time.

> > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute

> > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is

> glorious.

> > The

> > > Goddess takes care of all the details if you just focus on

> Her.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> > > >

> > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Arranging a supply line

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > One of the interesting things in one of the books is

a

> > phrase

> > > used

> > > > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials

taken

> > care

> > > of when

> > > > he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

> > > >

> > > > That could be another way of saying, organizing life

> for

> > > devotion,

> > > > with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction

> increased

> > > immensely.

> > > >

> > > > How to organize our supply line. He was a young man

> with

> > great

> > > > focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated

> guru,

> > and

> > > perhaps

> > > > not much karma to drag him down.

> > > >

> > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the supply

> line.

> > For

> > > > myself there are many, many things to attend to. But

> there

> > are

> > > > obvious ones I don't want to face that I must ... for

> > example

> > > > current and old taxes.

> > > >

> > > > So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the current

taxes

> in

> > an

> > > > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what,

> some

> > > money is

> > > > coming back.

> > > >

> > > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that will

free

> more

> > of

> > > my

> > > > mind and heart for devotion.

> > > >

> > > > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

> > > >

> > > > steve

> > > >

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lynne, absolutely!

 

a little story, very small. i was torn by this for some time at a

sort of submerged level, like a desire that i could not see

fulfilling, but that bubbled underneath. anyway, shree maa said, my

daughter and my wife were my teachers.

 

this might not seem like much, but coming from shree maa ... the way

she expresses things ... it went straight to the heart. honestly, if

i can look back at the last couple of months, i can say it turned

that sense of deprivation on its head.

 

still, i want to do more ... but only if it "works" or fits in with

the concept of my personal dharma or duties. the "right" sadhana

seems at this point to be making domestic life better, which is

probably more than i could say for any other sadhana i have done.

 

if you write that book, though, i want to read it ... i still might

become a sadhu someday --- only as and if the maha-goddess wills it.

 

santih,

 

steve

 

 

, "Lynne McKinnon" <omgirl@p...>

wrote:

> Hi All,

> Just to "ring" in on this one. Being a householder with a hubbie,

kids, mortgage and maybe a dog, I have often fantasized about being

a monk. I would go and live at an ashram and do saddhana nonstop.

I would write books about how to transition from householder to monk

smoothly. I would absorb negativity and transform it into pure

love. The beautiful thing is that now I realize that this family and

house (and van and grill and lawn....) IS my saddhana. I get it

now. I have the grace of this incredible family to mirror to me

where I need to improve--where I can be more selfless, where I can

serve more. I blow it all the time, but I'm learning. And for this

seeker there would be no other way to learn what I need to. I don't

have to go to India, I don't have to wander I can just keep the

meals, laundry and car-pool running along--keep hugging and loving.

And when I look into their pure faces and the love in their eyes

goes on forever I know I'm in the right place, doing the right

thing.

>

> Of course a tent in the forest does sound heavenly...hmmmm :)

> I'm not arguing with anybody here--just sharing a learning. A big

one for me.

>

> Much love, many blessings!

> Lynne

> PS, Lathji--awesome class, thank you, thank you, pranams to all!

> -

> Chris Kirner

>

> Monday, March 29, 2004 4:44 PM

> Re: Arranging a supply line

>

>

> Steve,

>

> I think it would be very difficult to be a wandering sadhu in

this

> country. Our culture just doesn't support it. In the cities,

where

> one might easily find food at shelters etc., the environment is

> violent and more often than not, likely unsuitable for sadhana.

There

> are few ashrams, or temples, and no tradition of recognizing,

feeding

> and otherwise supporting spiritual mendicants. I think it would

be

> difficult to be a wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady

> source of money to draw on and could therefore live in the

country.

>

> Chris

>

>

>

> , "bingo_ridley"

<sconnor@a...>

> wrote:

> > i mean, in north america. that the culture of wandering sadhus

is

> not

> > seen here. when we have this wealth, and interest in

spirituality.

> it

> > could be done more than it is. retreating to the forest. the

> ascetic

> > part, that is not so popular. the tendency is, more, to make a

> great

> > life, use spirit to get the car, that sort of thing. over time

> > perhaps this will be seen for what it is. then our forests

will be

> > filled with taoists, sadhus, etc. we will see little temples

at the

> > side of the road. why not here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji,

part

> of

> > such a transformation.

> >

> > it is quite likely this process is already occurring, but

> the "face"

> > of these semi-recluses is different ... they are often

healers,

> more

> > than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas,

near

> > wimberly and such.

> >

> > steve

> >

> >

> > , "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...>

> wrote:

> > > What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused

by

> > your post.

> > >

> > > Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so openly, so often

you

> can

> > mistake them for just a crazy person, or beggar, etc.

> > >

> > > I think there are more than you think who take to the hills

for a

> > retreat. Not as many as we would all like, but certainly more

than

> 1

> > or 2.

> > > -

> > > bingo_ridley

> > >

> > > Monday, March 29, 2004 11:20 AM

> > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > >

> > >

> > > it is interesting this is so rare. sometimes i wonder, why

no

> > sadhus

> > > among street people, for example? or maybe they are there,

i

> just

> > > don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who

is

> > camping

> > > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one or two.

maybe

> > > whenever you pitch that tent, you are doubling the sadhu

> > population.

> > >

> > > ahh, such a glory to be outside and live for god. i envy

you.

> or

> > > should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of

God.

> or

> > > should i say, since there is no envy therein,

just "Me" ... or,

> > to

> > > avoid confusion ... "She."

> > >

> > > jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.

> > >

> > >

> > > , "Mahamuni"

<mahamuni@c...>

> > wrote:

> > > > Different things at different times. I've done this

more

> than

> > > once, especially before I became a householder. Alone,

tent,

> > usually

> > > one place. The rest is not for the ears of others.

Suffice to

> > say I

> > > could never do enough but I did as much as I could at the

time.

> > > >

> > > > Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal

of

> > food.

> > > The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice, grade

b

> > maple

> > > syrup, water and cayenne in specific proportions, is great

and

> > easy.

> > > It has an ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple

with

> > honey

> > > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are

usually

> a

> > > good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the oral

saline

> > > flush/purge, which would just require you to pack some sea

> salt.

> > A

> > > few times I have added Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for

extra

> > > energy. Sometimes I have taken a nice amount of

algaes/grasses

> > with

> > > it.

> > > >

> > > > Jai Maa!

> > > > -

> > > > bingo_ridley

> > > >

> > > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:41 PM

> > > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > mahamuni, did you go alone? did you have a tent? how

long

> did

> > you

> > > > stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you

move

> > > around?

> > > >

> > > > curious sadhu,

> > > >

> > > > steve

> > > >

> > > > , "Mahamuni"

> > <mahamuni@c...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > > Re: Arranging a supply lineThese days,

in

> > many

> > > > places, all can be delivered.

> > > > >

> > > > > On my extended sits, I usually went out into the

forest.

> > It is

> > > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then

one

> > can

> > > use

> > > > dried fruits and veggies and reconstitute if one

desires

> > this.

> > > It

> > > > is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.

> > > > >

> > > > > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so

just

> > adjust

> > > > the planning.

> > > > >

> > > > > Of course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for

days

> on

> > > their

> > > > own as well.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just some ideas...

> > > > > -

> > > > > Ardis Jackson

> > > > >

> > > > > Sunday, March 28, 2004 9:33 AM

> > > > > Re: Arranging a supply line

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When I was living alone in Marin and doing lots of

> > sadhana, I

> > > > still had to go out and shop for food once in a

while.

> > Swamiji

> > > > encouraged me to find someone who could do that for

me. It

> > helps

> > > a

> > > > lot if you eat simply, one meal a day, the same meal

every

> > time.

> > > > The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an

absolute

> > > > minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is

> > glorious.

> > > The

> > > > Goddess takes care of all the details if you just

focus on

> > Her.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>

> > > > >

> > > > > Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000

> > > > >

> > > > > Arranging a supply line

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > One of the interesting things in one of the

books is

> a

> > > phrase

> > > > used

> > > > > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and

materials

> taken

> > > care

> > > > of when

> > > > > he locked himself in the temples to do lengthy

> > > > > sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."

> > > > >

> > > > > That could be another way of saying, organizing

life

> > for

> > > > devotion,

> > > > > with the sense of a goal and focus and reduction

> > increased

> > > > immensely.

> > > > >

> > > > > How to organize our supply line. He was a young

man

> > with

> > > great

> > > > > focus, energy, it sounds like a superbly

dedicated

> > guru,

> > > and

> > > > perhaps

> > > > > not much karma to drag him down.

> > > > >

> > > > > We all must have our own way of arranging the

supply

> > line.

> > > For

> > > > > myself there are many, many things to attend to.

But

> > there

> > > are

> > > > > obvious ones I don't want to face that I

must ... for

> > > example

> > > > > current and old taxes.

> > > > >

> > > > > So, with the help of DURGA,I have put the

current

> taxes

> > in

> > > an

> > > > > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess

what,

> > some

> > > > money is

> > > > > coming back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that

will

> free

> > more

> > > of

> > > > my

> > > > > mind and heart for devotion.

> > > > >

> > > > > Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!

> > > > >

> > > > > steve

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Sponsor

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > ----

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Steve,

Thank you for those words from Shree Maa--inspires me anew! Now,

after saying all that in my last email, I still get up before dawn

and do a "formal" practice! Just getting ready for the book I

guess...

Much love, keep on keepin' on,

Lynne

-

bingo_ridley

Monday, March 29, 2004 11:15 PM

Re: Arranging a supply line

lynne, absolutely!a little story, very small. i was torn by this for

some time at a sort of submerged level, like a desire that i could

not see fulfilling, but that bubbled underneath. anyway, shree maa

said, my daughter and my wife were my teachers.this might not seem

like much, but coming from shree maa ... the way she expresses things

.... it went straight to the heart. honestly, if i can look back at the

last couple of months, i can say it turned that sense of deprivation

on its head.still, i want to do more ... but only if it "works" or

fits in with the concept of my personal dharma or duties. the "right"

sadhana seems at this point to be making domestic life better, which

is probably more than i could say for any other sadhana i have

done.if you write that book, though, i want to read it ... i still

might become a sadhu someday --- only as and if the maha-goddess

wills it.santih,steve, "Lynne

McKinnon" <omgirl@p...> wrote:> Hi All,> Just to "ring" in on this

one. Being a householder with a hubbie, kids, mortgage and maybe a

dog, I have often fantasized about being a monk. I would go and

live at an ashram and do saddhana nonstop. I would write books about

how to transition from householder to monk smoothly. I would absorb

negativity and transform it into pure love. The beautiful thing is

that now I realize that this family and house (and van and grill and

lawn....) IS my saddhana. I get it now. I have the grace of this

incredible family to mirror to me where I need to improve--where I

can be more selfless, where I can serve more. I blow it all the

time, but I'm learning. And for this seeker there would be no other

way to learn what I need to. I don't have to go to India, I don't

have to wander I can just keep the meals, laundry and car-pool

running along--keep hugging and loving. And when I look into their

pure faces and the love in their eyes goes on forever I know I'm in

the right place, doing the right thing. > > Of course a tent in the

forest does sound heavenly...hmmmm :)> I'm not arguing with anybody

here--just sharing a learning. A big one for me.> > Much love, many

blessings!> Lynne> PS, Lathji--awesome class, thank you, thank you,

pranams to all!> - > Chris

Kirner > > Monday, March

29, 2004 4:44 PM> Re: Arranging a supply

line> > > Steve,> > I think it would be very difficult to be a

wandering sadhu in this > country. Our culture just doesn't support

it. In the cities, where > one might easily find food at shelters

etc., the environment is > violent and more often than not, likely

unsuitable for sadhana. There > are few ashrams, or temples, and no

tradition of recognizing, feeding > and otherwise supporting

spiritual mendicants. I think it would be > difficult to be a

wandering sadhu here, unless one had a steady > source of money to

draw on and could therefore live in the country.> > Chris> > > >

, "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> >

wrote:> > i mean, in north america. that the culture of wandering

sadhus is > not > > seen here. when we have this wealth, and

interest in spirituality. > it > > could be done more than it is.

retreating to the forest. the > ascetic > > part, that is not so

popular. the tendency is, more, to make a > great > > life, use

spirit to get the car, that sort of thing. over time > > perhaps

this will be seen for what it is. then our forests will be > >

filled with taoists, sadhus, etc. we will see little temples at the >

> side of the road. why not here, i say. maybe maa and swamiji, part

> of > > such a transformation.> > > > it is quite likely this

process is already occurring, but > the "face" > > of these

semi-recluses is different ... they are often healers, > more > >

than realizers. at least this is what i see here in texas, near > >

wimberly and such.> > > > steve> > > > > > --- In

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> > wrote:>

> > What exactly do you think is so rare? I'm a little confused by >

> your post.> > > > > > Not every "sadhu" displays him/herself so

openly, so often you > can > > mistake them for just a crazy

person, or beggar, etc.> > > > > > I think there are more than

you think who take to the hills for a > > retreat. Not as many as

we would all like, but certainly more than > 1 > > or 2.> > >

- > > > bingo_ridley > > >

> > > Monday, March 29,

2004 11:20 AM> > > Re: Arranging a supply

line> > > > > > > > > it is interesting this is so rare.

sometimes i wonder, why no > > sadhus > > > among street

people, for example? or maybe they are there, i > just > > >

don't know them. in the hills across the usa, who know who is > >

camping > > > out there. maybe a million sadhus, maybe only one

or two. maybe > > > whenever you pitch that tent, you are

doubling the sadhu > > population.> > > > > > ahh, such a

glory to be outside and live for god. i envy you. > or > > >

should i say, "i envy Me" since we are both emanations of God. > or

> > > should i say, since there is no envy therein, just "Me" ...

or, > > to > > > avoid confusion ... "She."> > > > > >

jai maa! say hello to shivapuri baba.> > > > > > > > > --- In

, "Mahamuni" <mahamuni@c...> > > wrote:>

> > > Different things at different times. I've done this more >

than > > > once, especially before I became a householder.

Alone, tent, > > usually > > > one place. The rest is not for

the ears of others. Suffice to > > say I > > > could never do

enough but I did as much as I could at the time.> > > > > > >

> Fasting also takes care of the need to pack a great deal of > >

food. > > > The master cleanse, which is just fresh lemon juice,

grade b > > maple > > > syrup, water and cayenne in specific

proportions, is great and > > easy. > > > It has an

ayurvedic/yogic counterpart replacing the maple with > > honey >

> > and the cayenne with black pepper. Enemas or basti are usually

> a > > > good idea, though in the master cleanse they do the

oral saline > > > flush/purge, which would just require you to

pack some sea > salt. > > A > > > few times I have added

Yerba Mate to the fasting brew for extra > > > energy. Sometimes

I have taken a nice amount of algaes/grasses > > with > > > it.>

> > > > > > > Jai Maa!> > > > ----- Original Message

----- > > > > bingo_ridley > > > > To:

> > > > Sunday, March 28,

2004 5:41 PM> > > > Re: Arranging a

supply line> > > > > > > > > > > > mahamuni, did you go

alone? did you have a tent? how long > did > > you > > > >

stay? did you meditate for hours on end ... or did you move > > >

around?> > > > > > > > curious sadhu,> > > > > > > >

steve> > > > > > > > ,

"Mahamuni" > > <mahamuni@c...> > > > wrote:> > > > > Re:

Arranging a supply lineThese days, in > > many > >

> > places, all can be delivered.> > > > > > > > > >

On my extended sits, I usually went out into the forest. > > It is

> > > > easy to bring enough grains, seeds, nuts, etc and then

one > > can > > > use > > > > dried fruits and veggies

and reconstitute if one desires > > this. > > > It > > > >

is not too hard if you plan it ahead of time.> > > > > > > >

> > Not everyone will be ready to do one meal a day, so just > >

adjust > > > > the planning.> > > > > > > > > > Of

course some fresh fruit and veggies can last for days > on > > >

their > > > > own as well.> > > > > > > > > > Just

some ideas...> > > > > - > > >

> > Ardis Jackson > > > > > To:

> > > > > Sunday, March 28,

2004 9:33 AM> > > > > Re: Arranging a

supply line> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I

was living alone in Marin and doing lots of > > sadhana, I > > >

> still had to go out and shop for food once in a while. > >

Swamiji > > > > encouraged me to find someone who could do that

for me. It > > helps > > > a > > > > lot if you eat

simply, one meal a day, the same meal every > > time. > > > >

The idea is to keep distraction from worship to an absolute > > >

> minimum. When the total focus is on worship, life is > >

glorious. > > > The > > > > Goddess takes care of all the

details if you just focus on > > Her.> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...>> > > >

> > > > > > Date:

Sun, 28 Mar 2004 15:39:19 -0000> > > > > To:

> > > > >

Arranging a supply line> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > One of the interesting things in

one of the books is > a > > > phrase > > > > used > > >

> > by Swamiji re: getting bodily needs and materials >

taken > > > care > > > > of when > > > > > he

locked himself in the temples to do lengthy > > > > >

sadhana ... "arranging a supply line."> > > > > > > > > >

That could be another way of saying, organizing life > > for >

> > > devotion, > > > > > with the sense of a goal and

focus and reduction > > increased > > > > immensely.> > >

> > > > > > > How to organize our supply line. He was a

young man > > with > > > great > > > > > focus,

energy, it sounds like a superbly dedicated > > guru, > > > and

> > > > perhaps > > > > > not much karma to drag him

down.> > > > > > > > > > We all must have our own way

of arranging the supply > > line. > > > For > > > > >

myself there are many, many things to attend to. But > > there >

> > are > > > > > obvious ones I don't want to face that

I must ... for > > > example > > > > > current and old

taxes.> > > > > > > > > > So, with the help of

DURGA,I have put the current > taxes > > in > > > an > > >

> > envelope today for the mail tomorrow ... guess what, > >

some > > > > money is > > > > > coming back.> > >

> > > > > > > Then, 2 more years of problem-taxes ... that

will > free > > more > > > of > > > > my > > > > >

mind and heart for devotion. > > > > > > > > > >

Get light. Peace, santih, yellow, yellow, yellow!> > > > > >

> > > > steve> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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