Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 "...one more question ... how much do you differentiate between hard and soft sadhana [if i can say that] ... iow, difficult asans and japa, [can be hard if extended] and study of sanskrit [soft]. or is this wrong thinking..." Dear Steve, There are people who have reached self-realization just through the study of Sanskrit. When you consider that it is the vibration of Divine Consciousness, it makes sense. If you don't mind, I'd like to contribute regarding sleep, doing non-stop sadhana etc. There have been several times during the past years that I have had the opportunity to live in an ashram for extended periods. During those months, I did seva literally from 2:30am until 10:30pm. Frequently, I would take someone else's seva shift during lunch break because it was the only time I got to participate in chanting or prayer (noon-time chants etc.) and because, I realize in retrospect, I was incredibly "attached" to my seva. I was also eating very little.Interestingly enough (but not too surprising in light of studies on sleep deprivation and fasting), those were times when I had very intense visions, dreams and experiences of Divine manifestation (all of the things that saints warn us about). What carried me through this was the strong shakti of the ashram setting or, in the case of India, the intense energies of the Kumbha Mela. There were times when I didn't sleep for several days and didn't need sleep at all.Trying to do this on my own, however, when I got home, was not very effective, to say the least...why? because there was no matrix of support there for me..there was not a culture supporting what I was doing and there was not a group around me whose energy was supporting what I was doing..plus I had the duties of ahouseholder to attend to.At that time, I had fantasies of leaving "the world" and becoming a monk or sadhu..but I was not living IN my life at all. Earlier in my life, when I was involved with Buddhist practice, I saw alot of people ignoring the needs of their bodies, as though the body were a reluctant dog that had to be trained rigidly or ignored. Now many of those same folks are paying the price for this attitude that the body and its needs are to be ignored or forcibly denied, that the body is somehow "a thing" and not something to be treated with love and respect. This is a delicate business: finding the balance without fooling yourself; it's a sadhana in itself. Waking up very early in the morning naturally, on those cold Winter mornings (hey, I'm in New England) and NOT rolling over to get a little more sleep is part of it....snapping at your husband and cats and realizing that your body is telling you to get some rest is another. There are so many ways to integrate the formal aspects of worship (puja, chanting texts, etc.) with the "informal ones" (japa, mindfulness practice, daily contemplation etc. ); they are all part of sadhana. What is "enough" sleep for one person is not enough sleep for another. I remember hearing, at one time...."the yogi MUST get up before Brahmamahurta and do practices then" and I strove to do that for many many years...I'm not so sure, though if this other practice I did: swimming every day for 2 miles in a lake and repeating the Gayatri mantra..wasn't just as effective. What I am trying to say is that each one of us knows, deep inside, when we are making our best effort and when we are making excuses. Eventually, all 24 hours of your day is sadhana. There is no one to prove anything to, no one to tell you how YOU have to do this...there are the examples of completely dedicated sadhus,like Swamiji as beacons and there is the example of the man from Ecuador, bagging your groceries, whose every action is filled with devotion, focused attention and loving-kindness. love, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 all these thoughts, yours, and mike's and rudran2's are so pertinent ... i wish i could spend time on them right now ... now, i have to go you, but later, this i want to get back into this. what i hear is, pushing is not the thing. i am interested still in devnath9's [jeff's] thoughts. there are as many ways as there are people, it sounds like. still, i think of maa, who seems so beautiful in spirt, and serene, yet so active, and the image of hanuman, who is tranquil in all service. for a human being to be that way, must they "push" themselves, or maybe learn "how" to push themselves without breaking. swamiji must have learned that. perhaps this is where grace comes in, or all is revealed in its won good tim. just the same, it is all worth considering. what is good, and looks easy, is most often something that has be reviewed and examined over and over again. plus, sadhvi [and maureen, latha, vishweshwar, parvati and so many others] i wish to thank you all for your energy, kindness, and genuine helpfulness ... love, s , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > "...one more question ... how much do you differentiate between hard > and > soft sadhana [if i can say that] ... iow, difficult asans and japa, > [can be hard if extended] and study of sanskrit [soft]. or is this > wrong thinking..." > Dear Steve, > There are people who have reached self-realization just through > the study of Sanskrit. When you consider that it is the vibration of > Divine Consciousness, it makes sense. > If you don't mind, I'd like to contribute regarding sleep, doing > non-stop sadhana etc. There have been several times during the past > years that I have had the opportunity to live in an ashram for > extended periods. During those months, I did seva literally from > 2:30am until 10:30pm. Frequently, I would take someone else's seva > shift during lunch break because it was the only time I got to > participate in chanting or prayer (noon-time chants etc.) and > because, I realize in retrospect, I was incredibly "attached" to my > seva. I was also eating very little.Interestingly enough (but not > too surprising in light of studies on sleep deprivation and > fasting), those were times when I had very intense visions, dreams > and experiences of Divine manifestation (all of the things that > saints warn us about). What carried me through this was the strong > shakti of the ashram setting or, in the case of India, the intense > energies of the Kumbha Mela. There were times when I didn't sleep > for several days and didn't need sleep at all.Trying to do this on > my own, however, when I got home, was not very effective, to say the > least...why? because there was no matrix of support there for > me..there was not a culture supporting what I was doing and there > was not a group around me whose energy was supporting what I was > doing..plus I had the duties of ahouseholder to attend to.At that > time, I had fantasies of leaving "the world" and becoming a monk or > sadhu..but I was not living IN my life at all. Earlier in my life, > when I was involved with Buddhist practice, I saw alot of people > ignoring the needs of their bodies, as though the body were a > reluctant dog that had to be trained rigidly or ignored. Now many of > those same folks are paying the price for this attitude that the > body and its needs are to be ignored or forcibly denied, that the > body is somehow "a thing" and not something to be treated with love > and respect. > This is a delicate business: finding the balance without fooling > yourself; it's a sadhana in itself. Waking up very early in the > morning naturally, on those cold Winter mornings (hey, I'm in New > England) and NOT rolling over to get a little more sleep is part of > it....snapping at your husband and cats and realizing that your body > is telling you to get some rest is another. There are so many ways > to integrate the formal aspects of worship (puja, chanting texts, > etc.) with the "informal ones" (japa, mindfulness practice, daily > contemplation etc. ); they are all part of sadhana. What is "enough" > sleep for one person is not enough sleep for another. I remember > hearing, at one time...."the yogi MUST get up before Brahmamahurta > and do practices then" and I strove to do that for many many > years...I'm not so sure, though if this other practice I did: > swimming every day for 2 miles in a lake and repeating the Gayatri > mantra..wasn't just as effective. > What I am trying to say is that each one of us knows, deep > inside, when we are making our best effort and when we are making > excuses. Eventually, all 24 hours of your day is sadhana. There is > no one to prove anything to, no one to tell you how YOU have to do > this...there are the examples of completely dedicated sadhus,like > Swamiji as beacons and there is the example of the man from Ecuador, > bagging your groceries, whose every action is filled with devotion, > focused attention and loving-kindness. > love, > sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Sadhvi, I really appreciated this response. How true, and how wonderful. BTW I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience. Chris , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > "...one more question ... how much do you differentiate between hard > and > soft sadhana [if i can say that] ... iow, difficult asans and japa, > [can be hard if extended] and study of sanskrit [soft]. or is this > wrong thinking..." > Dear Steve, > There are people who have reached self-realization just through > the study of Sanskrit. When you consider that it is the vibration of > Divine Consciousness, it makes sense. > If you don't mind, I'd like to contribute regarding sleep, doing > non-stop sadhana etc. There have been several times during the past > years that I have had the opportunity to live in an ashram for > extended periods. During those months, I did seva literally from > 2:30am until 10:30pm. Frequently, I would take someone else's seva > shift during lunch break because it was the only time I got to > participate in chanting or prayer (noon-time chants etc.) and > because, I realize in retrospect, I was incredibly "attached" to my > seva. I was also eating very little.Interestingly enough (but not > too surprising in light of studies on sleep deprivation and > fasting), those were times when I had very intense visions, dreams > and experiences of Divine manifestation (all of the things that > saints warn us about). What carried me through this was the strong > shakti of the ashram setting or, in the case of India, the intense > energies of the Kumbha Mela. There were times when I didn't sleep > for several days and didn't need sleep at all.Trying to do this on > my own, however, when I got home, was not very effective, to say the > least...why? because there was no matrix of support there for > me..there was not a culture supporting what I was doing and there > was not a group around me whose energy was supporting what I was > doing..plus I had the duties of ahouseholder to attend to.At that > time, I had fantasies of leaving "the world" and becoming a monk or > sadhu..but I was not living IN my life at all. Earlier in my life, > when I was involved with Buddhist practice, I saw alot of people > ignoring the needs of their bodies, as though the body were a > reluctant dog that had to be trained rigidly or ignored. Now many of > those same folks are paying the price for this attitude that the > body and its needs are to be ignored or forcibly denied, that the > body is somehow "a thing" and not something to be treated with love > and respect. > This is a delicate business: finding the balance without fooling > yourself; it's a sadhana in itself. Waking up very early in the > morning naturally, on those cold Winter mornings (hey, I'm in New > England) and NOT rolling over to get a little more sleep is part of > it....snapping at your husband and cats and realizing that your body > is telling you to get some rest is another. There are so many ways > to integrate the formal aspects of worship (puja, chanting texts, > etc.) with the "informal ones" (japa, mindfulness practice, daily > contemplation etc. ); they are all part of sadhana. What is "enough" > sleep for one person is not enough sleep for another. I remember > hearing, at one time...."the yogi MUST get up before Brahmamahurta > and do practices then" and I strove to do that for many many > years...I'm not so sure, though if this other practice I did: > swimming every day for 2 miles in a lake and repeating the Gayatri > mantra..wasn't just as effective. > What I am trying to say is that each one of us knows, deep > inside, when we are making our best effort and when we are making > excuses. Eventually, all 24 hours of your day is sadhana. There is > no one to prove anything to, no one to tell you how YOU have to do > this...there are the examples of completely dedicated sadhus,like > Swamiji as beacons and there is the example of the man from Ecuador, > bagging your groceries, whose every action is filled with devotion, > focused attention and loving-kindness. > love, > sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 "... BTW I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." Dear Chris, I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make- up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes it's a real challenge. love, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Thank you for this, Sadvi. Especially the last paragraph. You speak from your life and your heart. "nityashakti" <sadhvi (AT) prodigy (DOT) net> Fri, 02 Apr 2004 19:03:21 -0000 RE: keeping passionate about our worship "...one more question ... how much do you differentiate between hard and soft sadhana [if i can say that] ... iow, difficult asans and japa, [can be hard if extended] and study of sanskrit [soft]. or is this wrong thinking..." Dear Steve, There are people who have reached self-realization just through the study of Sanskrit. When you consider that it is the vibration of Divine Consciousness, it makes sense. If you don't mind, I'd like to contribute regarding sleep, doing non-stop sadhana etc. There have been several times during the past years that I have had the opportunity to live in an ashram for extended periods. During those months, I did seva literally from 2:30am until 10:30pm. Frequently, I would take someone else's seva shift during lunch break because it was the only time I got to participate in chanting or prayer (noon-time chants etc.) and because, I realize in retrospect, I was incredibly "attached" to my seva. I was also eating very little.Interestingly enough (but not too surprising in light of studies on sleep deprivation and fasting), those were times when I had very intense visions, dreams and experiences of Divine manifestation (all of the things that saints warn us about). What carried me through this was the strong shakti of the ashram setting or, in the case of India, the intense energies of the Kumbha Mela. There were times when I didn't sleep for several days and didn't need sleep at all.Trying to do this on my own, however, when I got home, was not very effective, to say the least...why? because there was no matrix of support there for me..there was not a culture supporting what I was doing and there was not a group around me whose energy was supporting what I was doing..plus I had the duties of ahouseholder to attend to.At that time, I had fantasies of leaving "the world" and becoming a monk or sadhu..but I was not living IN my life at all. Earlier in my life, when I was involved with Buddhist practice, I saw alot of people ignoring the needs of their bodies, as though the body were a reluctant dog that had to be trained rigidly or ignored. Now many of those same folks are paying the price for this attitude that the body and its needs are to be ignored or forcibly denied, that the body is somehow "a thing" and not something to be treated with love and respect. This is a delicate business: finding the balance without fooling yourself; it's a sadhana in itself. Waking up very early in the morning naturally, on those cold Winter mornings (hey, I'm in New England) and NOT rolling over to get a little more sleep is part of it....snapping at your husband and cats and realizing that your body is telling you to get some rest is another. There are so many ways to integrate the formal aspects of worship (puja, chanting texts, etc.) with the "informal ones" (japa, mindfulness practice, daily contemplation etc. ); they are all part of sadhana. What is "enough" sleep for one person is not enough sleep for another. I remember hearing, at one time...."the yogi MUST get up before Brahmamahurta and do practices then" and I strove to do that for many many years...I'm not so sure, though if this other practice I did: swimming every day for 2 miles in a lake and repeating the Gayatri mantra..wasn't just as effective. What I am trying to say is that each one of us knows, deep inside, when we are making our best effort and when we are making excuses. Eventually, all 24 hours of your day is sadhana. There is no one to prove anything to, no one to tell you how YOU have to do this...there are the examples of completely dedicated sadhus,like Swamiji as beacons and there is the example of the man from Ecuador, bagging your groceries, whose every action is filled with devotion, focused attention and loving-kindness. love, sadhvi / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 Sadvi, I think it is different. Swamiji and I are both embodiments of supreme consciousness, but that's about as far as I care to compare. I've never been to India, but from little hints I've gleaned here and there, I think it truely is the land of the Hamsas, a magical place, a geography imbued with divinity, for those with the eyes to see. So many saints! True, there are many posers, but so many loving, godly people, all so generous of heart. (As you can no doubt tell, I really want to go someday) But perhaps I'm being overly romantic (but I don't think so). Someday I will, even if it has to be in another body. I'm so happy you had such a wonderful experience there. It validates all of my many daydreams. So very beautiful. Thank you for sharing what must be some very profound memories for you. Chris , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > "... BTW > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." > > Dear Chris, > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make- > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes > it's a real challenge. > love, > sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2004 Report Share Posted April 2, 2004 I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. Bom Mahadev!!! - nityashakti Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM RE: keeping passionate about our worship "... BTWI'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...."Dear Chris, I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make-up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes it's a real challenge.love,sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 sadvhi, i just came home from work and re-read your post ... i like it even more the 2nd time. entering the drop zone, this is how i think of it. a space wherein more and more attention is being drawn into a divine aperture. perhaps this the operation of grace ... or a matter of gathering acceleration ... i don't know ... you are part of that, this entire forum, swamiji, shree maa ... where is all karma resolved? at this place ... all the past friend and lovers and places are right here ... no one, no one at all, can be missing, there is no sense of any lacking. but the momentum into the center is continuous, or can be readily animated with small shoves. love, love, love ... yes ... i believe, she is pulling us with a stronger tug these days. s , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > "...one more question ... how much do you differentiate between hard > and > soft sadhana [if i can say that] ... iow, difficult asans and japa, > [can be hard if extended] and study of sanskrit [soft]. or is this > wrong thinking..." > Dear Steve, > There are people who have reached self-realization just through > the study of Sanskrit. When you consider that it is the vibration of > Divine Consciousness, it makes sense. > If you don't mind, I'd like to contribute regarding sleep, doing > non-stop sadhana etc. There have been several times during the past > years that I have had the opportunity to live in an ashram for > extended periods. During those months, I did seva literally from > 2:30am until 10:30pm. Frequently, I would take someone else's seva > shift during lunch break because it was the only time I got to > participate in chanting or prayer (noon-time chants etc.) and > because, I realize in retrospect, I was incredibly "attached" to my > seva. I was also eating very little.Interestingly enough (but not > too surprising in light of studies on sleep deprivation and > fasting), those were times when I had very intense visions, dreams > and experiences of Divine manifestation (all of the things that > saints warn us about). What carried me through this was the strong > shakti of the ashram setting or, in the case of India, the intense > energies of the Kumbha Mela. There were times when I didn't sleep > for several days and didn't need sleep at all.Trying to do this on > my own, however, when I got home, was not very effective, to say the > least...why? because there was no matrix of support there for > me..there was not a culture supporting what I was doing and there > was not a group around me whose energy was supporting what I was > doing..plus I had the duties of ahouseholder to attend to.At that > time, I had fantasies of leaving "the world" and becoming a monk or > sadhu..but I was not living IN my life at all. Earlier in my life, > when I was involved with Buddhist practice, I saw alot of people > ignoring the needs of their bodies, as though the body were a > reluctant dog that had to be trained rigidly or ignored. Now many of > those same folks are paying the price for this attitude that the > body and its needs are to be ignored or forcibly denied, that the > body is somehow "a thing" and not something to be treated with love > and respect. > This is a delicate business: finding the balance without fooling > yourself; it's a sadhana in itself. Waking up very early in the > morning naturally, on those cold Winter mornings (hey, I'm in New > England) and NOT rolling over to get a little more sleep is part of > it....snapping at your husband and cats and realizing that your body > is telling you to get some rest is another. There are so many ways > to integrate the formal aspects of worship (puja, chanting texts, > etc.) with the "informal ones" (japa, mindfulness practice, daily > contemplation etc. ); they are all part of sadhana. What is "enough" > sleep for one person is not enough sleep for another. I remember > hearing, at one time...."the yogi MUST get up before Brahmamahurta > and do practices then" and I strove to do that for many many > years...I'm not so sure, though if this other practice I did: > swimming every day for 2 miles in a lake and repeating the Gayatri > mantra..wasn't just as effective. > What I am trying to say is that each one of us knows, deep > inside, when we are making our best effort and when we are making > excuses. Eventually, all 24 hours of your day is sadhana. There is > no one to prove anything to, no one to tell you how YOU have to do > this...there are the examples of completely dedicated sadhus,like > Swamiji as beacons and there is the example of the man from Ecuador, > bagging your groceries, whose every action is filled with devotion, > focused attention and loving-kindness. > love, > sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 "I've never been to India, but from little hints I've gleaned here and there, I think it truely is the land of the Hamsas, a magical place, a geography imbued with divinity, for those with the eyes to see. So many saints! True, there are many posers, but so many loving, godly people, all so generous of heart. (As you can no doubt tell, I really want to go someday) But perhaps I'm being overly romantic (but I don't think so). Someday I will, even if it has to be in another body...." Dear Chris, I'm sure you WILL go...without a doubt.The fact that I got to the Kumbha Mela in 2001 was a small miracle. I had been so longing to go but my husband and I were, literally, living from hand-to-mouth, just barely getting the rent together every month. One day, he came home and found me crying. When he asked me what was wrong, I was so embarrased to say that I was crying because I wanted to go to the Kumbha Mela so much and I knew that it was not going to happen, even though I had been praying and praying. Two weeks later, my husband came walking through the front door and said, "you're going to the Kumbha Mela". He had gotten an unexpected project that would pay exactly the amount needed! It had just come out of "nowhere". So...you never know what might happen. Everything that is here is there as well..the negativity and all the rest but living, even for a short time, in a culture that has such an ancient and living spiritual tradition is just amazing! All the more reason to be astounded and grateful that Swamiji and Shree Maa are living HERE!!! in the USA and manifesting what is so powerful about that tradition in such a clear, uncompromising and generous way...sometimes I find it hard to believe. best love to you and prayers that your dream will come true, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 I know what you mean about the sadhus who showed you their love, support and appreciation for your practice. When I made my Buddhist pilgrimage to India, Nepal and Sikkim and stayed in Tibetan Buddhist monasteries, I felt the same love and appreciation from the monks and lamas. "nityashakti" <sadhvi (AT) prodigy (DOT) net> Fri, 02 Apr 2004 21:10:32 -0000 RE: keeping passionate about our worship "... BTW I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." Dear Chris, I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make- up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes it's a real challenge. love, sadhvi / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Ah, Sadvi, Once again you say it so clearly. I agree with Chris that I would have loved to been at MahaKumbhaMela. Especially with Shree Maa and Swamiji. But I count my blessings for the near unbelievable fact that we have Shree Maa and Swamiji here, giving all that They give to all of us. "nityashakti" <sadhvi (AT) prodigy (DOT) net> Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:38:46 -0000 RE: keeping passionate about our worship "I've never been to India, but from little hints I've gleaned here and there, I think it truely is the land of the Hamsas, a magical place, a geography imbued with divinity, for those with the eyes to see. So many saints! True, there are many posers, but so many loving, godly people, all so generous of heart. (As you can no doubt tell, I really want to go someday) But perhaps I'm being overly romantic (but I don't think so). Someday I will, even if it has to be in another body...." Dear Chris, I'm sure you WILL go...without a doubt.The fact that I got to the Kumbha Mela in 2001 was a small miracle. I had been so longing to go but my husband and I were, literally, living from hand-to-mouth, just barely getting the rent together every month. One day, he came home and found me crying. When he asked me what was wrong, I was so embarrased to say that I was crying because I wanted to go to the Kumbha Mela so much and I knew that it was not going to happen, even though I had been praying and praying. Two weeks later, my husband came walking through the front door and said, "you're going to the Kumbha Mela". He had gotten an unexpected project that would pay exactly the amount needed! It had just come out of "nowhere". So...you never know what might happen. Everything that is here is there as well..the negativity and all the rest but living, even for a short time, in a culture that has such an ancient and living spiritual tradition is just amazing! All the more reason to be astounded and grateful that Swamiji and Shree Maa are living HERE!!! in the USA and manifesting what is so powerful about that tradition in such a clear, uncompromising and generous way...sometimes I find it hard to believe. best love to you and prayers that your dream will come true, sadhvi / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Lall&DollyMahamuni <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. Bom Mahadev!!! - nityashakti Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM RE: keeping passionate about our worship "... BTWI'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...."Dear Chris, I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make-up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes it's a real challenge.love,sadhviod Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 in a way, you could maybe say, our desire for spirituality ... it was a call, and they came. s , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > "I've never been to India, but from little hints I've gleaned here > and > there, I think it truely is the land of the Hamsas, a magical place, > a geography imbued with divinity, for those with the eyes to see. So > many saints! True, there are many posers, but so many loving, godly > people, all so generous of heart. (As you can no doubt tell, I really > want to go someday) But perhaps I'm being overly romantic (but I > don't think so). Someday I will, even if it has to be in another > body...." > > Dear Chris, > I'm sure you WILL go...without a doubt.The fact that I got to the > Kumbha Mela in 2001 was a small miracle. I had been so longing to go > but my husband and I were, literally, living from hand-to-mouth, > just barely getting the rent together every month. One day, he came > home and found me crying. When he asked me what was wrong, I was so > embarrased to say that I was crying because I wanted to go to the > Kumbha Mela so much and I knew that it was not going to happen, even > though I had been praying and praying. Two weeks later, my husband > came walking through the front door and said, "you're going to the > Kumbha Mela". He had gotten an unexpected project that would pay > exactly the amount needed! It had just come out of "nowhere". > So...you never know what might happen. > Everything that is here is there as well..the negativity and all > the rest but living, even for a short time, in a culture that has > such an ancient and living spiritual tradition is just amazing! All > the more reason to be astounded and grateful that Swamiji and Shree > Maa are living HERE!!! in the USA and manifesting what is so > powerful about that tradition in such a clear, uncompromising and > generous way...sometimes I find it hard to believe. > best love to you and prayers that your dream will come true, > sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Why certainly, I would be glad to offer a puja to Swaami Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day as my own Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 years and exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his way to his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for one last note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but that was the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations of the moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in dedication to both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. , Lall and Dolly Singh <dolly8655> wrote: > gods blessing > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji who gave his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also please pay my respects to Barfani Dada > Lall&Dolly > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > Bom Mahadev!!! > - > nityashakti > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > RE: keeping passionate about our worship > > > "... BTW > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." > > Dear Chris, > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make- > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes > it's a real challenge. > love, > sadhvi > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > od > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2004 Report Share Posted April 3, 2004 Why certainly, I would be glad to offer a puja to Swaami Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day as my own Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 years and exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his way to his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for one last note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but that was the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations of the moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in dedication to both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima., Lall and Dolly Singh <dolly8655> wrote:> gods blessing> please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji who gave his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also please pay my respects to Barfani Dada> Lall&Dolly> Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote:> I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again.> > Bom Mahadev!!!> ----- Original Message ----- > nityashakti > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM> RE: keeping passionate about our worship> > > "... BTW> I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...."> > Dear Chris,> I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, I > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, back > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make-> up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes > it's a real challenge.> love,> sadhvi> > > > > Sponsor> > > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Terms of Service. > > od> > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2004 Report Share Posted April 4, 2004 rudran2, was your dad a jazz musician, classical ... ? steve c. , Lall and Dolly Singh <dolly8655> wrote: > thank you so much. and may gods blessigs be with you dad's soul > > rudran2 <stechiekov> wrote:Why certainly, I would be glad to offer a puja to Swaami > Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day as my own > Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 years and > exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his way to > his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for one last > note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but that was > the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations of the > moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in dedication to > both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of > Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > <dolly8655> wrote: > > gods blessing > > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji who gave > his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also please pay > my respects to Barfani Dada > > Lall&Dolly > > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the > morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > > > Bom Mahadev!!! > > - > > nityashakti > > > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > > RE: keeping passionate about our worship > > > > > > "... BTW > > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." > > > > Dear Chris, > > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it was > > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and > > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and great > > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was the > > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where I > > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every morning > > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a hill > > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all of > > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby where > > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I chanted, > I > > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the end > > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and > > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love and > > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the practices". > > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much kindness > > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at the > > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, > back > > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, make- > > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just > > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to imagine > > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but sometimes > > it's a real challenge. > > love, > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > od > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Ah, Sadvi,Once again you say it so clearly. I agree with Chris that I would have loved to been at MahaKumbhaMela. Especially with Shree Maa and Swamiji. But I count my blessings for the near unbelievable fact that we have Shree Maa and Swamiji here, giving all that They give to all of us. "nityashakti" <sadhvi (AT) prodigy (DOT) net> Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:38:46 -0000To: Subject: RE: keeping passionate about our worship "I've never been to India, but from little hints I've gleaned here andthere, I think it truely is the land of the Hamsas, a magical place,a geography imbued with divinity, for those with the eyes to see. Somany saints! True, there are many posers, but so many loving, godlypeople, all so generous of heart. (As you can no doubt tell, I reallywant to go someday) But perhaps I'm being overly romantic (but Idon't think so). Someday I will, even if it has to be in another body...."Dear Chris, I'm sure you WILL go...without a doubt.The fact that I got to the Kumbha Mela in 2001 was a small miracle. I had been so longing to go but my husband and I were, literally, living from hand-to-mouth, just barely getting the rent together every month. One day, he came home and found me crying. When he asked me what was wrong, I was so embarrased to say that I was crying because I wanted to go to the Kumbha Mela so much and I knew that it was not going to happen, even though I had been praying and praying. Two weeks later, my husband came walking through the front door and said, "you're going to the Kumbha Mela". He had gotten an unexpected project that would pay exactly the amount needed! It had just come out of "nowhere". So...you never know what might happen. Everything that is here is there as well..the negativity and all the rest but living, even for a short time, in a culture that has such an ancient and living spiritual tradition is just amazing! All the more reason to be astounded and grateful that Swamiji and Shree Maa are living HERE!!! in the USA and manifesting what is so powerful about that tradition in such a clear, uncompromising and generous way...sometimes I find it hard to believe.best love to you and prayers that your dream will come true,sadhvi / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Dad was primarily classical but he did jazz and pop too. , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> wrote: > rudran2, > > was your dad a jazz musician, classical ... ? > > steve c. > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > <dolly8655> wrote: > > thank you so much. and may gods blessigs be with you dad's soul > > > > rudran2 <stechiekov> wrote:Why certainly, I would be glad to > offer a puja to Swaami > > Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day as my > own > > Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 years > and > > exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his way to > > his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for one > last > > note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but that > was > > the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations of > the > > moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in dedication > to > > both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of > > Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > gods blessing > > > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji who > gave > > his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also please > pay > > my respects to Barfani Dada > > > Lall&Dolly > > > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the > > morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > > > > > Bom Mahadev!!! > > > - > > > nityashakti > > > > > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > > > RE: keeping passionate about our worship > > > > > > > > > "... BTW > > > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." > > > > > > Dear Chris, > > > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it > was > > > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and > > > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and > great > > > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was > the > > > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where > I > > > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every > morning > > > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > > > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a > hill > > > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all > of > > > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby > where > > > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I > chanted, > > I > > > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the > end > > > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing and > > > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love > and > > > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the > practices". > > > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much > kindness > > > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at > the > > > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, > > back > > > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, > make- > > > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just > > > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to > imagine > > > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but > sometimes > > > it's a real challenge. > > > love, > > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > od > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 Yes! Yes! Yes! They are the BEST! kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 Apr 4, 2004 11:33 PM Re: RE: keeping passionate about our worship Shree Maa and Swamiji is MahaKumbha Mela !! Ardis Jackson <anandamama wrote:Ah, Sadvi, Once again you say it so clearly. I agree with Chris that I would have loved to been at MahaKumbhaMela. Especially with Shree Maa and Swamiji. But I count my blessings for the near unbelievable fact that we have Shree Maa and Swamiji here, giving all that They give to all of us. "nityashakti" <sadhvi Sat, 03 Apr 2004 14:38:46 -0000 RE: keeping passionate about our worship "I've never been to India, but from little hints I've gleaned here and there, I think it truely is the land of the Hamsas, a magical place, a geography imbued with divinity, for those with the eyes to see. So many saints! True, there are many posers, but so many loving, godly people, all so generous of heart. (As you can no doubt tell, I really want to go someday) But perhaps I'm being overly romantic (but I don't think so). Someday I will, even if it has to be in another body...." Dear Chris, I'm sure you WILL go...without a doubt.The fact that I got to the Kumbha Mela in 2001 was a small miracle. I had been so longing to go but my husband and I were, literally, living from hand-to-mouth, just barely getting the rent together every month. One day, he came home and found me crying. When he asked me what was wrong, I was so embarrased to say that I was crying because I wanted to go to the Kumbha Mela so much and I knew that it was not going to happen, even though I had been praying and praying. Two weeks later, my husband came walking through the front door and said, "you're going to the Kumbha Mela". He had gotten an unexpected project that would pay exactly the amount needed! It had just come out of "nowhere". So...you never know what might happen. Everything that is here is there as well..the negativity and all the rest but living, even for a short time, in a culture that has such an ancient and living spiritual tradition is just amazing! All the more reason to be astounded and grateful that Swamiji and Shree Maa are living HERE!!! in the USA and manifesting what is so powerful about that tradition in such a clear, uncompromising and generous way...sometimes I find it hard to believe. best love to you and prayers that your dream will come true, sadhvi / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . / Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway - Enter today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 he sounds like a dedicated musician that had a very wide range ... Swaami Ramachandraji ... rudran2, what can you tell us about him ... did you know him? i only know very little, i did a web search, i am not even sure if i found the right Swaami Ramachandraji. steve , "rudran2" <stechiekov> wrote: > Dad was primarily classical but he did jazz and pop too. > > , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > wrote: > > rudran2, > > > > was your dad a jazz musician, classical ... ? > > > > steve c. > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > thank you so much. and may gods blessigs be with you dad's soul > > > > > > rudran2 <stechiekov> wrote:Why certainly, I would be glad to > > offer a puja to Swaami > > > Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day as my > > own > > > Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 years > > and > > > exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his way > to > > > his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for one > > last > > > note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but that > > was > > > the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations of > > the > > > moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in > dedication > > to > > > both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of > > > Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > gods blessing > > > > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji who > > gave > > > his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also please > > pay > > > my respects to Barfani Dada > > > > Lall&Dolly > > > > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the > > > morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > > > > > > > Bom Mahadev!!! > > > > - > > > > nityashakti > > > > > > > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > > > > RE: keeping passionate about our worship > > > > > > > > > > > > "... BTW > > > > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." > > > > > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and it > > was > > > > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical and > > > > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and > > great > > > > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it was > > the > > > > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is where > > I > > > > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every > > morning > > > > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > > > > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a > > hill > > > > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came up....all > > of > > > > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby > > where > > > > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I > > chanted, > > > I > > > > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to the > > end > > > > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing > and > > > > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love > > and > > > > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the > > practices". > > > > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much > > kindness > > > > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing at > > the > > > > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I was, > > > back > > > > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, > > make- > > > > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was just > > > > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to > > imagine > > > > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but > > sometimes > > > > it's a real challenge. > > > > love, > > > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > od > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2004 Report Share Posted April 5, 2004 The only thing I know about Swaami Ramachandraji is that he passed from this world on the same day as my Dad. I did not know Swaami Ramachandraji. I did know the late Swami Chinmayananda. I first met him way back in 1967. , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> wrote: > he sounds like a dedicated musician that had a very wide range ... > > Swaami Ramachandraji ... rudran2, what can you tell us about him ... > did you know him? i only know very little, i did a web search, i am > not even sure if i found the right Swaami Ramachandraji. > > steve > > , "rudran2" <stechiekov> wrote: > > Dad was primarily classical but he did jazz and pop too. > > > > , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > > wrote: > > > rudran2, > > > > > > was your dad a jazz musician, classical ... ? > > > > > > steve c. > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > thank you so much. and may gods blessigs be with you dad's soul > > > > > > > > rudran2 <stechiekov> wrote:Why certainly, I would be glad > to > > > offer a puja to Swaami > > > > Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day as > my > > > own > > > > Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 years > > > and > > > > exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his way > > to > > > > his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for one > > > last > > > > note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but > that > > > was > > > > the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations > of > > > the > > > > moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in > > dedication > > > to > > > > both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of > > > > Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. > > > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > > gods blessing > > > > > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji > who > > > gave > > > > his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also please > > > pay > > > > my respects to Barfani Dada > > > > > Lall&Dolly > > > > > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > > > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in the > > > > morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > > > > > > > > > Bom Mahadev!!! > > > > > - > > > > > nityashakti > > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > > > > > RE: keeping passionate about our > worship > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... BTW > > > > > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela experience...." > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and > it > > > was > > > > > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical > and > > > > > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus and > > > great > > > > > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it > was > > > the > > > > > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is > where > > > I > > > > > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every > > > morning > > > > > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > > > > > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of a > > > hill > > > > > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came > up....all > > > of > > > > > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place nearby > > > where > > > > > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I > > > chanted, > > > > I > > > > > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to > the > > > end > > > > > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, standing > > and > > > > > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total love > > > and > > > > > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the > > > practices". > > > > > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much > > > kindness > > > > > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and landing > at > > > the > > > > > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I > was, > > > > back > > > > > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex watches, > > > make- > > > > > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was > just > > > > > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to > > > imagine > > > > > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but > > > sometimes > > > > > it's a real challenge. > > > > > love, > > > > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > od > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 it sounds like you have had some trips to india, or was this in the states? did you study with him? did you get into the gita? steve , "rudran2" <stechiekov> wrote: > The only thing I know about Swaami Ramachandraji is that he passed > from this world on the same day as my Dad. I did not know Swaami > Ramachandraji. I did know the late Swami Chinmayananda. I first met > him way back in 1967. > > , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > wrote: > > he sounds like a dedicated musician that had a very wide range ... > > > > Swaami Ramachandraji ... rudran2, what can you tell us about > him ... > > did you know him? i only know very little, i did a web search, i am > > not even sure if i found the right Swaami Ramachandraji. > > > > steve > > > > , "rudran2" <stechiekov> > wrote: > > > Dad was primarily classical but he did jazz and pop too. > > > > > > , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > > > wrote: > > > > rudran2, > > > > > > > > was your dad a jazz musician, classical ... ? > > > > > > > > steve c. > > > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > > thank you so much. and may gods blessigs be with you dad's > soul > > > > > > > > > > rudran2 <stechiekov> wrote:Why certainly, I would be > glad > > to > > > > offer a puja to Swaami > > > > > Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same day > as > > my > > > > own > > > > > Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 > years > > > > and > > > > > exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on his > way > > > to > > > > > his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for > one > > > > last > > > > > note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, but > > that > > > > was > > > > > the day on which he passed from this world with 895 rotations > > of > > > > the > > > > > moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in > > > dedication > > > > to > > > > > both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala of > > > > > Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. > > > > > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > > > gods blessing > > > > > > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami Ramachandraji > > who > > > > gave > > > > > his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also > please > > > > pay > > > > > my respects to Barfani Dada > > > > > > Lall&Dolly > > > > > > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > > > > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in > the > > > > > morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bom Mahadev!!! > > > > > > - > > > > > > nityashakti > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > > > > > > RE: keeping passionate about our > > worship > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... BTW > > > > > > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela > experience...." > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > > > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience and > > it > > > > was > > > > > > three years ago! I had so many odd things happen..magical > > and > > > > > > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus > and > > > > great > > > > > > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think it > > was > > > > the > > > > > > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This is > > where > > > > I > > > > > > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was every > > > > morning > > > > > > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to make > > > > > > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side of > a > > > > hill > > > > > > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came > > up....all > > > > of > > > > > > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place > nearby > > > > where > > > > > > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as I > > > > chanted, > > > > > I > > > > > > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came to > > the > > > > end > > > > > > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, > standing > > > and > > > > > > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total > love > > > > and > > > > > > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the > > > > practices". > > > > > > There was so much respect for the effort made and so much > > > > kindness > > > > > > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and > landing > > at > > > > the > > > > > > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there I > > was, > > > > > back > > > > > > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex > watches, > > > > make- > > > > > > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I was > > just > > > > > > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not to > > > > imagine > > > > > > that there is a "difference" between there and here...but > > > > sometimes > > > > > > it's a real challenge. > > > > > > love, > > > > > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > of > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > od > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 I did study under him just a bit, but came away from him with little in the realm of practices. Coming upon the Devi Mandir has rendered me a wealth of everyday practical methodology. It is the stuff with which I could live out all that remains of my life. It seems to me that everything comes to me out of the pujas. To me this has made a huge difference. , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> wrote: > it sounds like you have had some trips to india, or was this in the > states? did you study with him? did you get into the gita? > > steve > > , "rudran2" <stechiekov> > wrote: > > The only thing I know about Swaami Ramachandraji is that he passed > > from this world on the same day as my Dad. I did not know Swaami > > Ramachandraji. I did know the late Swami Chinmayananda. I first > met > > him way back in 1967. > > > > , "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > > wrote: > > > he sounds like a dedicated musician that had a very wide > range ... > > > > > > Swaami Ramachandraji ... rudran2, what can you tell us about > > him ... > > > did you know him? i only know very little, i did a web search, i > am > > > not even sure if i found the right Swaami Ramachandraji. > > > > > > steve > > > > > > , "rudran2" <stechiekov> > > wrote: > > > > Dad was primarily classical but he did jazz and pop too. > > > > > > > > , "bingo_ridley" > <sconnor@a...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > rudran2, > > > > > > > > > > was your dad a jazz musician, classical ... ? > > > > > > > > > > steve c. > > > > > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > > > thank you so much. and may gods blessigs be with you dad's > > soul > > > > > > > > > > > > rudran2 <stechiekov> wrote:Why certainly, I would be > > glad > > > to > > > > > offer a puja to Swaami > > > > > > Ramachandraji who gave up his embodiment they very same > day > > as > > > my > > > > > own > > > > > > Dad. On Maha Shiva Rathrie, February 18th '04, Dad was 87 > > years > > > > > and > > > > > > exactly one month of age. As evening fell so did Dad on > his > > way > > > > to > > > > > > his key board. A musician to his last he fell reaching for > > one > > > > > last > > > > > > note. He knew nothing of sadanna or Maha Shiva Rathrie, > but > > > that > > > > > was > > > > > > the day on which he passed from this world with 895 > rotations > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > moon to his credit. I will then conduct a joint puja in > > > > dedication > > > > > to > > > > > > both Swaami Ramachandraji and Dad. It will be another mala > of > > > > > > Gayatri, Vishnu Puja and Sahasranima. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Lall and Dolly Singh > > > > > > <dolly8655> wrote: > > > > > > > gods blessing > > > > > > > please offer a prayer for Jaagat Guru Swaami > Ramachandraji > > > who > > > > > gave > > > > > > his body on Maha Shiva Rathrie Day at Manasarover. Also > > please > > > > > pay > > > > > > my respects to Barfani Dada > > > > > > > Lall&Dolly > > > > > > > Mahamuni <mahamuni@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > I'm off to the Ujjain Mahakumbhamela, called Simhasta in > > the > > > > > > morning. I need a quick hit of Baba Loka once again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bom Mahadev!!! > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > nityashakti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, April 02, 2004 1:10 PM > > > > > > > RE: keeping passionate about our > > > worship > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "... BTW > > > > > > > I'm still VERY envious of your Mahakumbhamela > > experience...." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chris, > > > > > > > I'm still feeling the aftershocks of that experience > and > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > > three years ago! I had so many odd things > happen..magical > > > and > > > > > > > strange. Very wonderful moments of "darshan" with sadhus > > and > > > > > great > > > > > > > beings who were obviously giving me something...I think > it > > > was > > > > > the > > > > > > > first time since childhood that I felt...YES!!! This > is > > > where > > > > > I > > > > > > > truly belong! One of the most beautiful memories was > every > > > > > morning > > > > > > > getting up before dawn to do practices, then going to > make > > > > > > > offerings in the yagna fire and then sitting on the side > of > > a > > > > > hill > > > > > > > above the Ganges, chanting the Vedas as the sun came > > > up....all > > > > > of > > > > > > > the sadhus would be walking along the shore to a place > > nearby > > > > > where > > > > > > > they were bathing and then being fed. Some mornings, as > I > > > > > chanted, > > > > > > I > > > > > > > would have a feeling of someone nearby and, when I came > to > > > the > > > > > end > > > > > > > of a line, I would look up and see 12 or 15 sadhus, > > standing > > > > and > > > > > > > listening. There was the most wonderful feeling of total > > love > > > > > and > > > > > > > support..like, "oh, there is a Western sister doing the > > > > > practices". > > > > > > > There was so much respect for the effort made and so > much > > > > > kindness > > > > > > > and genuine interest. I can remember flying back and > > landing > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > airport in Frankfurt, Germany for a stopover...and there > I > > > was, > > > > > > back > > > > > > > in this environment of huge advertisements for Rolex > > watches, > > > > > make- > > > > > > > up and fancy cars. It was so CLEAN and so sterile...I > was > > > just > > > > > > > longing to be back in Allahabad. I try really hard not > to > > > > > imagine > > > > > > > that there is a "difference" between there and > here...but > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > it's a real challenge. > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > sadhvi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > > of > > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > od > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms > > of > > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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