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Guest guest Posted April 6, 2004 Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 Brian, I am so touched by what you say because I recognize it's Truth in my own life. Namaste' Ardis "Brian McKee" <brian (AT) soulspark (DOT) org> Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:31:40 -0400 (EDT) OM Shanti Shanti Shanti All sadhana aims to create one thing: Peace. All mantras, all homas, all spiritual texts, all art, all honest, all truth, and all light does the same thing. It seeks to create peace. My life is about finding that peace for myself, that is the direction of a spritual life, inward toward stillness. My life has always been about peace and will always be about peace. I have experienced peace briefly when my gunas are dancing around me in perfect harmony. I am left feeling each of them the same and thus find myself balanced in the triangle, at the bindu, mostly by chance. I relish those moments and I thank goddess for giving them to me. What I seek is that balance all the time. What I seek is the space between the thoughts. I have been praying for it, directly for a few months now, indirectly for much of my life. I didn't have a clue who she was back then, but I knew she was out there or as it turns out, in here (*points to my heart*). My life is my sadhana. It always has been. Every time I discovered truth about myself and accepted it, I performed sadhana for Mother. Every time I accepted grief from people and tried to love them or actually loved them anyway I performed sadhana for Mother. Everytime I did anything with the full awareness that there were going to be consequences and decided to accept them no matter what they were, I was doing sadhana for Mother. I didn't know it at the time but I did all that to find peace. Peace's name is Maa, Shiva, Vishnu, Krishna, Satyananda, etc etc etc. Now that I've had the smallest taste of that peace, even though its rare and wonderful, the desire in my heart to realize it for all time is welling up. How could I not desire that? How could I not be inspired to connect with that truth in the highest possible sense? Swamiji asked, "How do we keep passionate about our worship?" How could we not be passionate? THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION. Why do we lose our passion? If we can answer that question for ourselves, then we will know our minds more, our bodies more, our emotions more, our desires more intimately, and we will be able to recconect with the passion that is already there. The passion exists. Period. It is the love of god that flows into us from the source. When we don't feel it, its simply because we don't want to, because we would rather be in the dark, than see ourselves for what we really are. How do we keep passionate? By knowing ourselves wholy and truly. By accepting ourselves for who and what we are and by admitting that those are just qualities we choose to identify with, in reality only a small piece of the greater whole. If a man builds a dome around himself to escape the sun, will he not have to tear down each and every stone so the light continuously shines on him? Will he not have to start at the top and work his way down to prevent the stones falling upon him? The stones are ours, but not us, we are responsible for them but they are not who we are. Not only will the light flow in, but it will also burst out when we tear down that wall and we see the reflection of the divine within and without. I am passionate because it is who I am, not because its who I want to be, not because its the flavor of the month, not because I need to be passionate to have an identity. I don't have to practice anything to stay passionate. All I have to be is in the here and now and be a spectator to mother's amazing play. All I have to do is look around me and see the splendor of the opposites to recognize how much she loves me that she would give me such a play pen to learn and grow in. The beauty of life surrounds us. It is not a place of temptation, we just think it is. We do not have to be lost here, and yet we do lose ourselves. It is her passion for us that she made all of this, how could we not reflect that passion back f or her? Love, Brian No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Sponsor / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Hey Brian, I have been thinking over Swamiji's question on being passionate about worship , and your post below and a question came up. In the Chandi - one of the names of the Goddess is Chamunda - the Slayer of PASSION and Anger. Hmmmm ...so according to the Chandi , Passion is evidently an asura, marked for deletion. And yet, He asks us to be "passion"ate about worship. Is there "good" passion and "bad" passion ? What do you think ? Namaste Latha , "Brian McKee" <brian@s...> wrote: > Namaste.I have realized that passion is not attachment. They are two separate things. I used to believe that if a person was feeling the way I felt when I wrote this, that they were attached and not balanced, I thought it was mamtva. I have realized that its not attachment. Attachment implies denial of truth or expectation of outcome, I have neither when I feel this way. This feeling is from the depths of my soul, from the true identity within me that I am slowly allowing myself to become aware of. When you hear or read about Ramakrishna, you hear mostly of his passion for Kali, of his passion for the people around him and of his intense desire to be in union and to help others achieve that union. I want that Bhava. Maa's lesson for me today is: passion should not be confused with attachment or addiction, they are different things. Only the experiencer can tell the difference. Love, Brian"In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program.--- On Mon 04/05, Ardis Jackson < anandamama@e... > wrote:Ardis Jackson [ anandamama@e...]: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:00:30 - 0700Re: OM Shanti Shanti ShantiBrian,I am so touched by what you say because I recognize it's Truth in my own life.Namaste'Ardis > "Brian McKee" : Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:31:40 -0400 (EDT): OM Shanti Shanti Shanti > All sadhana aims to create one thing: Peace.All mantras, all homas, all spiritual texts, all art, all honest, all truth, and all light does the same thing. It seeks to create peace.My life is about finding that peace for myself, that is the direction of a spritual life, inward toward stillness.My life has always been about peace and will always be about peace.I have experienced peace briefly when my gunas are dancing around me in perfect harmony. I am left feeling each of them the same and thus find myself balanced in the triangle, at the bindu, mostly by chance.I relish those moments and I thank goddess for giving them to me.What I seek is that balance all the time. What I seek is the space between the thoughts. I have been praying for it, directly for a few months now, indirectly for much of my life. I didn't have a clue who she was back then, but I knew she was out there or as it turns out, in here (*points to my heart*).My life is my sadhana. It always has been. Every time I discovered truth about myself and accepted it, I performed sadhana for Mother. Every time I accepted grief from people and tried to love them or actually loved them anyway I performed sadhana for Mother. Everytime I did anything with the full awareness that there were going to be consequences and decided to accept them no matter what they were, I was doing sadhana for Mother.I didn't know it at the time but I did all that to find peace. Peace's name is Maa, Shiva, Vishnu, Krishna, Satyananda, etc etc etc.Now that I've had the smallest taste of that peace, even though its rare and wonderful, the desire in my heart to realize it for all time is welling up. How could I not desire that? How could I not be inspired to connect with that truth in the highest possible sense?Swamiji asked, "How do we keep passionate about our worship?"How could we not be passionate? THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION. Why do we lose our passion? If we can answer that question for ourselves, then we will know our minds more, our bodies more, our emotions more, our desires more intimately, and we will be able to recconect with the passion that is already there.The passion exists. Period. It is the love of god that flows into us from the source. When we don't feel it, its simply because we don't want to, because we would rather be in the dark, than see ourselves for what we really are.How do we keep passionate? By knowing ourselves wholy and truly. By accepting ourselves for who and what we are and by admitting that those are just qualities we choose to identify with, in reality only a small piece of the greater whole.If a man builds a dome around himself to escape the sun, will he not have to tear down each and every stone so the light continuously shines on him? Will he not have to start at the top and work his way down to prevent the stones falling upon him?The stones are ours, but not us, we are responsible for them but they are not who we are. Not only will the light flow in, but it will also burst out when we tear down that wall and we see the reflection of the divine within and without.I am passionate because it is who I am, not because its who I want to be, not because its the flavor of the month, not because I need to be passionate to have an identity.I don't have to practice anything to stay passionate. All I have to be is in the here and now and be a spectator to mother's amazing play. All I have to do is look around me and see the splendor of the opposites to recognize how much she loves me that she would give me such a play pen to learn and grow in.The beauty of life surrounds us. It is not a place of temptation, we just think it is. We do not have to be lost here, and yet we do lose ourselves. It is her passion for us that she made all of this, how could we not reflect that passion back f or her?Love,Brian > > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Sponsor > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service . > > Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to:/ > - > Terms of Service. > > > _____________ > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. > Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 Peace, peace, altogether peace. Jai Maa!!! Brian McKee <brian Apr 6, 2004 12:10 PM Re: OM Shanti Shanti Shanti Namaste.I have realized that passion is not attachment. They are two separate things. I used to believe that if a person was feeling the way I felt when I wrote this, that they were attached and not balanced, I thought it was mamtva. I have realized that its not attachment. Attachment implies denial of truth or expectation of outcome, I have neither when I feel this way. This feeling is from the depths of my soul, from the true identity within me that I am slowly allowing myself to become aware of. When you hear or read about Ramakrishna, you hear mostly of his passion for Kali, of his passion for the people around him and of his intense desire to be in union and to help others achieve that union. I want that Bhava. Maa's lesson for me today is: passion should not be confused with attachment or addiction, they are different things. Only the experiencer can tell the difference. Love, Brian"In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program.--- On Mon 04/05, Ardis Jackson < anandamama > wrote:Ardis Jackson [ anandamama]: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:00:30 -0700Re: OM Shanti Shanti ShantiBrian,I am so touched by what you say because I recognize it's Truth in my own life.Namaste'Ardis "Brian McKee" : Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:31:40 -0400 (EDT): OM Shanti Shanti Shanti All sadhana aims to create one thing: Peace.All mantras, all homas, all spiritual texts, all art, all honest, all truth, and all light does the same thing. It seeks to create peace.My life is about finding that peace for myself, that is the direction of a spritual life, inward toward stillness.My life has always been about peace and will always be about peace.I have experienced peace briefly when my gunas are dancing around me in perfect harmony. I am left feeling each of them the same and thus find myself balanced in the triangle, at the bindu, mostly by chance.I relish those moments and I thank goddess for giving them to me.What I seek is that balance all the time. What I seek is the space between the thoughts. I have been praying for it, directly for a few months now, indirectly for much of my life. I didn't have a clue who she was back then, but I knew she was out there or as it turns out, in here (*points to my heart*).My life is my sadhana. It always has been. Every time I discovered truth about myself and accepted it, I performed sadhana for Mother. Every time I accepted grief from people and tried to love them or actually loved them anyway I performed sadhana for Mother. Everytime I did anything with the full awareness that there were going to be consequences and decided to accept them no matter what they were, I was doing sadhana for Mother.I didn't know it at the time but I did all that to find peace. Peace's name is Maa, Shiva, Vishnu, Krishna, Satyananda, etc etc etc.Now that I've had the smallest taste of that peace, even though its rare and wonderful, the desire in my heart to realize it for all time is welling up. How could I not desire that? How could I not be inspired to connect with that truth in the highest possible sense?Swamiji asked, "How do we keep passionate about our worship?"How could we not be passionate? THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION. Why do we lose our passion? If we can answer that question for ourselves, then we will know our minds more, our bodies more, our emotions more, our desires more intimately, and we will be able to recconect with the passion that is already there.The passion exists. Period. It is the love of god that flows into us from the source. When we don't feel it, its simply because we don't want to, because we would rather be in the dark, than see ourselves for what we really are.How do we keep passionate? By knowing ourselves wholy and truly. By accepting ourselves for who and what we are and by admitting that those are just qualities we choose to identify with, in reality only a small piece of the greater whole.If a man builds a dome around himself to escape the sun, will he not have to tear down each and every stone so the light continuously shines on him? Will he not have to start at the top and work his way down to prevent the stones falling upon him?The stones are ours, but not us, we are responsible for them but they are not who we are. Not only will the light flow in, but it will also burst out when we tear down that wall and we see the reflection of the divine within and without.I am passionate because it is who I am, not because its who I want to be, not because its the flavor of the month, not because I need to be passionate to have an identity.I don't have to practice anything to stay passionate. All I have to be is in the here and now and be a spectator to mother's amazing play. All I have to do is look around me and see the splendor of the opposites to recognize how much she loves me that she would give me such a play pen to learn and grow in.The beauty of life surrounds us. It is not a place of temptation, we just think it is. We do not have to be lost here, and yet we do lose ourselves. It is her passion for us that she made all of this, how could we not reflect that passion back f or her?Love,Brian No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Sponsor / Terms of Service . / To from this group, send an email to: _____________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2004 Report Share Posted April 7, 2004 ion, most passion we do not chose for ourselves, it is given to us by Maha Maya when we choose our encarnation. Therefore passion is unavoidable. Its like a deck of cards we are dealt at birth and at various point in our childhood. At the time we do not have the consciousness to choose to not take the cards, so we take them. When we start to awaken we can look at and accept our cards for what they are, whether we were abused, neglected, tortured, beat, mislead, guilted, lied to or simply abandoned, our childhood is what it is and denying those cards in our hand is like trying to ignore the superficial us, the first identity that mother gave us. Once we can bear to look at our hand, then consciousness moves in and will show us how to play our cards the best that we can. For some of us we will have to go to jail. We will have to be thieves, we will have to hurt others. But as the cards are played, if we do not react, that is to say we allow mother to swallow the card completely, then the next card we will be dealt will be based on new karma not the same old karma coming up again and again. We can begin to break the cycle of fear / desire (same thing). Then it is she who we follow. It is she who tempers our temper. It is Shiva who does our worldly chores for us. And that gives rise to more consciousness. Over time passion fades and when we have spent all the karma that has been alotted for this lifetime, then we may find peace if we choose to. Or we could say, "Mom, bring it on! I'm ready for another helping of my Karma!" And she will lay out another series of tests of our consciousness. She adores us, you know? Why else would she be so patient and so loving? Love, Brian --- On Wed 04/07, Latha Nanda < lathananda > wrote:Latha Nanda [ lathananda ]Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 15:30:13 -0000 Re: OM Shanti Shanti ShantiHey Brian,I have been thinking over Swamiji's question on being passionate about worship , and your post below and a question came up.In the Chandi - one of the names of the Goddess is Chamunda - the Slayer of PASSION and Anger. Hmmmm ...so according to the Chandi , Passion is evidently an asura, marked for deletion.And yet, He asks us to be "passion"ate about worship. Is there "good" passion and "bad" passion ? What do you think ?Namaste Latha--- In , "Brian McKee" wrote:> Namaste.I have realized that passion is not attachment. They are two separate things. I used to believe that if a person was feeling the way I felt when I wrote this, that they were attached and not balanced, I thought it was mamtva. I have realized that its not attachment. Attachment implies denial of truth or expectation of outcome, I have neither when I feel this way. This feeling is from the depths of my soul, from the true identity within me that I am slowly allowing myself to become aware of. When you hear or read about Ramakrishna, you hear mostly of his passion for Kali, of his passion for the people around him and of his intense desire to be in union and to help others achieve that union. I want that Bhava. Maa's lesson for me today is: passion should not be confused with attachment or addiction, they are different things. Only the experiencer can tell the difference. Love, Brian"In the begining, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy Radio Program.--- On Mon 04/05, Ardis Jackson < anandamama@e... > wrote: Ardis Jackson [ anandamama@e...]: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 20:00 :30 -0700Re: OM Shanti Shanti ShantiBrian,I am so touched by what you say because I recognize it's Truth in my own life.Namaste'Ardis> "Brian McKee" : Mon, 5 Apr 2004 19:31:40 -0400 (EDT): OM Shanti Shanti Shanti> All sadhana aims to create one thing: Peace.All mantras, all homas, all spiritual texts, all art, all honest, all truth, and all light does the same thing. It seeks to create peace.My life is about finding that peace for myself, that is the direction of a spritual life, inward toward stillness.My life has always been about peace and will always be about peace.I have experienced peace briefly when my gunas are dancing around me in perfect harmony. I am left feeling each of them the same and thus find myself balanced in the triangle, at the bindu, mostly by chance.I relish those moments and I thank goddess for giving them to me.What I seek is that balance all the time. What I seek is the space between the thoughts. I have been praying for it, directly for a few months now, indirectly for much of my life. I didn't have a clue who she was back then, but I knew she was out there or as it turns out, in here (*points to my heart*).My life is my sadhana. It always has been. Every time I discovered truth about myself and accepted it, I performed sadhana for Mother. Every time I accepted grief from people and tried to love them or actually loved them anyway I performed sadhana for Mother. Everytime I did anything with the full awareness that there were going to be consequences and decided to accept them no matter what they were, I was doing sadhana for Mother.I didn't know it at the time but I did all that to find peace. Peace's name is Maa, Shiva, Vishnu, Krishna, Satyananda, etc etc etc.Now that I've had the smallest taste of that peace, even though its rare and wonderful, the desire in my heart to realize it for all time is welling up. How could I not desire that? How could I not be inspired to connect with that truth in the highest possible sense?Swamiji asked, "How do we keep passionate about our worship?"How could we not be passionate? THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION. Why do we lose our passion? If we can answer that question for ourselves, then we will know our minds more, our bodies more, our emotions more, our desires more intimately, and we will be able to recconect with the passion that is already there.The passion exists. Period. It is the love of god that flows into us from the source. When we don't feel it, its simply because we don't want to, because we would rather be in the dark, than see ourselves for what we really are.How do we keep passionate? By knowing ourselves wholy and truly. By accepting ourselves for who and what we are and by admitting that those are just qualities we choose to identify with, in reality only a small piece of the greater whole.If a man builds a dome around himself to escape the sun, will he not have to tear down each and every stone so the light continuously shines on him? Will he not have to start at the top and work his way down to prevent the stones falling upon him?The stones are ours, but not us, we are responsible for them but they are not who we are. Not only will the light flow in, but it will also burst out when we tear down that wall and we see the reflection of the divine within and without.I am passionate because it is who I am, not because its who I want to be, not because its the flavor of the month, not because I need to be passionate to have an identity.I don't have to practice anything to stay passionate. All I have to be is in the here and now and be a spectator to mother's amazing play. All I have to do is look around me and see the splendor of the opposites to recognize how much she loves me that she would give me such a play pen to lear n and grow in.The beauty of life surrounds us. It is not a place of temptation, we just think it is. We do not have to be lost here, and yet we do lose ourselves. It is her passion for us that she made all of this, how could we not reflect that passion back f or her?Love,Brian> > No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com Sponsor > > Links> > > / > > To from this group, send an email to: > > > Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service . > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:/ > To from this group, send an email to: > Terms of Service. > > > _____________> No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding.> Introducing My Way - http://www.myway.com------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or LexmarkPrinter at MyInks.com. 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