Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Hi Latha, OK! One thing I read that I thought was interesting was that the incense we offer represents the smoke of "our clouded consciousness (the mind with all its thoughts)..what exists in us which is also an obstacle to self-realization. As long as this cloud is there, we can't see the brilliant light of our consciousness. Dhupam also stands for the illusion which keeps us chained to the world.When we offer incense to God, we offer symbolically our illusions and monkey mind". I had never heard this before. What I had heard, originally, when I began to do puja was that the Deity imbibes the incense as a kind of "food"...this stuck in my mind and I am always careful to offer to each murti for a bit so they have a chance to breathe it in...but, maybe, in light of what I just wrote above, I am offering them my illusions as well! That would be great! In Nepal, where the shamanic tradition is still so alive, incense making is really an art and a science. Different Lamas have their own particular blends and each ingredient has a certain effect on the body...like Agarbatti: which always has to be in a package bearing Shiva's trident and MUST consist of ingredients corresponding to the 7 directions. From what I've read, these incense "recipes" are closely guarded and handed down, much as "hidden mantras" are handed down. I remember being at this ashram in India and having the seva of carrying the dhoop tray around to all of the murtis outside (and there were ALOT of them). The person training me told me that this dhoop was Ayurvedically prepared with certain very specific ingredients to have specific healing effects on the body....well, that's all my "incense information". sadhvi PS: thanks for the calendar update. I'm still a little shakey when it comes to the calendar so it's great to have you giving the information so clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 sadhvi i had some tibetan incense a while back that would blow your mind. my wife didn't care for it so i didn't order any more. it was called "meditation incense" and i declare there was something special in them. i will find the site maybe and post the url. i don't mean it was not legit, but used some very powerful herb or something. there was also a set blessed by HDL. they come very hand-packed, very nice. i am entering a cooler level of the puja [you are no doubt there and beyond] where is seem to be "seeing" the devotional items differently ... mostly related to the incense smoke curling around the lingam, and the lingam himself ... there is something incredibly beautiful, like i am on drugs [not] ... i have to pause in the puja and have a feeling of being pulled into a merging with the lingam ... this happens whenever i am aware enough to be really addressing shiva in the lingam ... the lingam himself seems to have some sort of intense spiritual weight or something, like a density, like a nuclear coil or something. this energy has some sort of matching resonance in my head or spiritual being. have i gone mad? ;-) steve , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > Hi Latha, > OK! One thing I read that I thought was interesting was that the > incense we offer represents the smoke of "our clouded consciousness > (the mind with all its thoughts)..what exists in us which is also an > obstacle to self-realization. As long as this cloud is there, we > can't see the brilliant light of our consciousness. Dhupam also > stands for the illusion which keeps us chained to the world.When we > offer incense to God, we offer symbolically our illusions and monkey > mind". I had never heard this before. What I had heard, originally, > when I began to do puja was that the Deity imbibes the incense as a > kind of "food"...this stuck in my mind and I am always careful to > offer to each murti for a bit so they have a chance to breathe it > in...but, maybe, in light of what I just wrote above, I am offering > them my illusions as well! That would be great! In Nepal, where the > shamanic tradition is still so alive, incense making is really an > art and a science. Different Lamas have their own particular blends > and each ingredient has a certain effect on the body...like > Agarbatti: which always has to be in a package bearing Shiva's > trident and MUST consist of ingredients corresponding to the 7 > directions. From what I've read, these incense "recipes" are closely > guarded and handed down, much as "hidden mantras" are handed down. I > remember being at this ashram in India and having the seva of > carrying the dhoop tray around to all of the murtis outside (and > there were ALOT of them). The person training me told me that this > dhoop was Ayurvedically prepared with certain very specific > ingredients to have specific healing effects on the body....well, > that's all my "incense information". > sadhvi > PS: thanks for the calendar update. I'm still a little shakey when > it comes to the calendar so it's great to have you giving the > information so clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Mad? Mad for God? Yippee! Remember what Swamiji says "we go to our altar to enter an altered state". We don't need drugs or physical intoxicants. Pausing in the puja is beautiful. Let Lord Shiva take you wherever He wants. Isn't He a Beautiful Lord? "bingo_ridley" <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:17:44 -0000 Re: Puja basics/incense sadhvi i had some tibetan incense a while back that would blow your mind. my wife didn't care for it so i didn't order any more. it was called "meditation incense" and i declare there was something special in them. i will find the site maybe and post the url. i don't mean it was not legit, but used some very powerful herb or something. there was also a set blessed by HDL. they come very hand-packed, very nice. i am entering a cooler level of the puja [you are no doubt there and beyond] where is seem to be "seeing" the devotional items differently ... mostly related to the incense smoke curling around the lingam, and the lingam himself ... there is something incredibly beautiful, like i am on drugs [not] ... i have to pause in the puja and have a feeling of being pulled into a merging with the lingam ... this happens whenever i am aware enough to be really addressing shiva in the lingam ... the lingam himself seems to have some sort of intense spiritual weight or something, like a density, like a nuclear coil or something. this energy has some sort of matching resonance in my head or spiritual being. have i gone mad? ;-) steve , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > Hi Latha, > OK! One thing I read that I thought was interesting was that the > incense we offer represents the smoke of "our clouded consciousness > (the mind with all its thoughts)..what exists in us which is also an > obstacle to self-realization. As long as this cloud is there, we > can't see the brilliant light of our consciousness. Dhupam also > stands for the illusion which keeps us chained to the world.When we > offer incense to God, we offer symbolically our illusions and monkey > mind". I had never heard this before. What I had heard, originally, > when I began to do puja was that the Deity imbibes the incense as a > kind of "food"...this stuck in my mind and I am always careful to > offer to each murti for a bit so they have a chance to breathe it > in...but, maybe, in light of what I just wrote above, I am offering > them my illusions as well! That would be great! In Nepal, where the > shamanic tradition is still so alive, incense making is really an > art and a science. Different Lamas have their own particular blends > and each ingredient has a certain effect on the body...like > Agarbatti: which always has to be in a package bearing Shiva's > trident and MUST consist of ingredients corresponding to the 7 > directions. From what I've read, these incense "recipes" are closely > guarded and handed down, much as "hidden mantras" are handed down. I > remember being at this ashram in India and having the seva of > carrying the dhoop tray around to all of the murtis outside (and > there were ALOT of them). The person training me told me that this > dhoop was Ayurvedically prepared with certain very specific > ingredients to have specific healing effects on the body....well, > that's all my "incense information". > sadhvi > PS: thanks for the calendar update. I'm still a little shakey when > it comes to the calendar so it's great to have you giving the > information so clearly. Sponsor / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Tell your wife that she is not the only one who dislikes Tibetan incense. After I had been using that incense for a long time, I tried to sell my house. The first people who saw the house were convinced that I was a heavy smoker! I had to take the incense outside and light it for them to convince them that it was incense and not tobacco smoke. I was so used to the incense that I couldn't even smell it. Even though I had cleaned the drapes, blinds, carpets and every fabric that I could, they could still smell it and didn't like it. The woman said "I can't imagine why anyone would want to burn something like that in their house." So I started from scratch and cleaned everything again and opened all the windows and used fans to air it out. They bought the house. I am sure that they never burned any incense. : > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor (AT) austin (DOT) rr.com> Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:17:44 -0000 Re: Puja basics/incense sadhvi i had some tibetan incense a while back that would blow your mind. my wife didn't care for it so i didn't order any more. it was called "meditation incense" and i declare there was something special in them. i will find the site maybe and post the url. i don't mean it was not legit, but used some very powerful herb or something. there was also a set blessed by HDL. they come very hand-packed, very nice. i am entering a cooler level of the puja [you are no doubt there and beyond] where is seem to be "seeing" the devotional items differently ... mostly related to the incense smoke curling around the lingam, and the lingam himself ... there is something incredibly beautiful, like i am on drugs [not] ... i have to pause in the puja and have a feeling of being pulled into a merging with the lingam ... this happens whenever i am aware enough to be really addressing shiva in the lingam ... the lingam himself seems to have some sort of intense spiritual weight or something, like a density, like a nuclear coil or something. this energy has some sort of matching resonance in my head or spiritual being. have i gone mad? ;-) steve , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > Hi Latha, > OK! One thing I read that I thought was interesting was that the > incense we offer represents the smoke of "our clouded consciousness > (the mind with all its thoughts)..what exists in us which is also an > obstacle to self-realization. As long as this cloud is there, we > can't see the brilliant light of our consciousness. Dhupam also > stands for the illusion which keeps us chained to the world.When we > offer incense to God, we offer symbolically our illusions and monkey > mind". I had never heard this before. What I had heard, originally, > when I began to do puja was that the Deity imbibes the incense as a > kind of "food"...this stuck in my mind and I am always careful to > offer to each murti for a bit so they have a chance to breathe it > in...but, maybe, in light of what I just wrote above, I am offering > them my illusions as well! That would be great! In Nepal, where the > shamanic tradition is still so alive, incense making is really an > art and a science. Different Lamas have their own particular blends > and each ingredient has a certain effect on the body...like > Agarbatti: which always has to be in a package bearing Shiva's > trident and MUST consist of ingredients corresponding to the 7 > directions. From what I've read, these incense "recipes" are closely > guarded and handed down, much as "hidden mantras" are handed down. I > remember being at this ashram in India and having the seva of > carrying the dhoop tray around to all of the murtis outside (and > there were ALOT of them). The person training me told me that this > dhoop was Ayurvedically prepared with certain very specific > ingredients to have specific healing effects on the body....well, > that's all my "incense information". > sadhvi > PS: thanks for the calendar update. I'm still a little shakey when > it comes to the calendar so it's great to have you giving the > information so clearly. Sponsor / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 yes! until recently i did not really look into the cover of the shiva puja. now i am beginning to see him. , Ardis Jackson <anandamama@e...> wrote: > Mad? Mad for God? Yippee! Remember what Swamiji says "we go to our altar > to enter an altered state". We don't need drugs or physical intoxicants. > Pausing in the puja is beautiful. Let Lord Shiva take you wherever He wants. > Isn't He a Beautiful Lord? > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:17:44 -0000 > > Re: Puja basics/incense > > > sadhvi > > i had some tibetan incense a while back that would blow your mind. my > wife didn't care for it so i didn't order any more. it was > called "meditation incense" and i declare there was something special > in them. i will find the site maybe and post the url. i don't mean it > was not legit, but used some very powerful herb or something. there > was also a set blessed by HDL. they come very hand-packed, very nice. > > i am entering a cooler level of the puja [you are no doubt there and > beyond] where is seem to be "seeing" the devotional items > differently ... mostly related to the incense smoke curling around > the lingam, and the lingam himself ... there is something incredibly > beautiful, like i am on drugs [not] ... i have to pause in the puja > and have a feeling of being pulled into a merging with the lingam ... > this happens whenever i am aware enough to be really addressing shiva > in the lingam ... > > the lingam himself seems to have some sort of intense spiritual > weight or something, like a density, like a nuclear coil or > something. this energy has some sort of matching resonance in my head > or spiritual being. have i gone mad? > > ;-) > > steve > > > , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > > Hi Latha, > > OK! One thing I read that I thought was interesting was that the > > incense we offer represents the smoke of "our clouded consciousness > > (the mind with all its thoughts)..what exists in us which is also > an > > obstacle to self-realization. As long as this cloud is there, we > > can't see the brilliant light of our consciousness. Dhupam also > > stands for the illusion which keeps us chained to the world.When we > > offer incense to God, we offer symbolically our illusions and > monkey > > mind". I had never heard this before. What I had heard, originally, > > when I began to do puja was that the Deity imbibes the incense as a > > kind of "food"...this stuck in my mind and I am always careful to > > offer to each murti for a bit so they have a chance to breathe it > > in...but, maybe, in light of what I just wrote above, I am offering > > them my illusions as well! That would be great! In Nepal, where the > > shamanic tradition is still so alive, incense making is really an > > art and a science. Different Lamas have their own particular blends > > and each ingredient has a certain effect on the body...like > > Agarbatti: which always has to be in a package bearing Shiva's > > trident and MUST consist of ingredients corresponding to the 7 > > directions. From what I've read, these incense "recipes" are > closely > > guarded and handed down, much as "hidden mantras" are handed down. > I > > remember being at this ashram in India and having the seva of > > carrying the dhoop tray around to all of the murtis outside (and > > there were ALOT of them). The person training me told me that this > > dhoop was Ayurvedically prepared with certain very specific > > ingredients to have specific healing effects on the body....well, > > that's all my "incense information". > > sadhvi > > PS: thanks for the calendar update. I'm still a little shakey when > > it comes to the calendar so it's great to have you giving the > > information so clearly. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > Links > > / > > > > <? subject=Un> > > Terms of Service > <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 yes, that's the stuff alright, like smoke, not at all sweet ... i guess i can see why people don't like it ... but i do, and apparently i am not alone! steve , Ardis Jackson <anandamama@e...> wrote: > Tell your wife that she is not the only one who dislikes Tibetan incense. > After I had been using that incense for a long time, I tried to sell my > house. The first people who saw the house were convinced that I was a heavy > smoker! I had to take the incense outside and light it for them to convince > them that it was incense and not tobacco smoke. I was so used to the > incense that I couldn't even smell it. Even though I had cleaned the > drapes, blinds, carpets and every fabric that I could, they could still > smell it and didn't like it. The woman said "I can't imagine why anyone > would want to burn something like that in their house." So I started from > scratch and cleaned everything again and opened all the windows and used > fans to air it out. They bought the house. I am sure that they never > burned any incense. : > > > "bingo_ridley" <sconnor@a...> > > Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:17:44 -0000 > > Re: Puja basics/incense > > > sadhvi > > i had some tibetan incense a while back that would blow your mind. my > wife didn't care for it so i didn't order any more. it was > called "meditation incense" and i declare there was something special > in them. i will find the site maybe and post the url. i don't mean it > was not legit, but used some very powerful herb or something. there > was also a set blessed by HDL. they come very hand-packed, very nice. > > i am entering a cooler level of the puja [you are no doubt there and > beyond] where is seem to be "seeing" the devotional items > differently ... mostly related to the incense smoke curling around > the lingam, and the lingam himself ... there is something incredibly > beautiful, like i am on drugs [not] ... i have to pause in the puja > and have a feeling of being pulled into a merging with the lingam ... > this happens whenever i am aware enough to be really addressing shiva > in the lingam ... > > the lingam himself seems to have some sort of intense spiritual > weight or something, like a density, like a nuclear coil or > something. this energy has some sort of matching resonance in my head > or spiritual being. have i gone mad? > > ;-) > > steve > > > , "nityashakti" <sadhvi@p...> wrote: > > Hi Latha, > > OK! One thing I read that I thought was interesting was that the > > incense we offer represents the smoke of "our clouded consciousness > > (the mind with all its thoughts)..what exists in us which is also > an > > obstacle to self-realization. As long as this cloud is there, we > > can't see the brilliant light of our consciousness. Dhupam also > > stands for the illusion which keeps us chained to the world.When we > > offer incense to God, we offer symbolically our illusions and > monkey > > mind". I had never heard this before. What I had heard, originally, > > when I began to do puja was that the Deity imbibes the incense as a > > kind of "food"...this stuck in my mind and I am always careful to > > offer to each murti for a bit so they have a chance to breathe it > > in...but, maybe, in light of what I just wrote above, I am offering > > them my illusions as well! That would be great! In Nepal, where the > > shamanic tradition is still so alive, incense making is really an > > art and a science. Different Lamas have their own particular blends > > and each ingredient has a certain effect on the body...like > > Agarbatti: which always has to be in a package bearing Shiva's > > trident and MUST consist of ingredients corresponding to the 7 > > directions. From what I've read, these incense "recipes" are > closely > > guarded and handed down, much as "hidden mantras" are handed down. > I > > remember being at this ashram in India and having the seva of > > carrying the dhoop tray around to all of the murtis outside (and > > there were ALOT of them). The person training me told me that this > > dhoop was Ayurvedically prepared with certain very specific > > ingredients to have specific healing effects on the body....well, > > that's all my "incense information". > > sadhvi > > PS: thanks for the calendar update. I'm still a little shakey when > > it comes to the calendar so it's great to have you giving the > > information so clearly. > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > / > > > > <? subject=Un> > > Terms of Service > <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Jai Ma, "..That's beautiful.Could you gave the indian and scientific name ? Jai Maa!!..." The scientific name of the camphor tree (I think Latha mentioned this earlier?) is Cinnamomum camphora. And the Sanskrit name: karpura...like in "Karpuragauram karunavataram, samsarasaram bhujagendraharam, sada vasantam hrdayaravinde, bhavam bhavanisahitam namami" best love, sadhvi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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