Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to everyone. Belial and Sabrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I don´t speek english, I´m in Brazil (South America) but I bow to you. Jaya Maaa!!!!!!!!!! Paramahansa Yogananda ki Jaya!!!!bobdeinlein <bobdeinlein > wrote: Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to everyone. Belial and Sabrina Messenger - Fale com seus amigos online. Instale agora! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Welcome Belial and Sabrina, (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these pages, and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them. You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of yoga, though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. The focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we come to fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also systematic and powerful. Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. They are both highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and constantly (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us who practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and realize God. Divine Mother's blessings to you both. Chris , "bobdeinlein" <bobdeinlein> wrote: > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We > must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to everyone. > Belial and Sabrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 it is their business, and none of them (the men) have ever harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if we are to experience Hinduism. The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. Money does not buy peace of spirit. Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right to worship as you please. Belial and Sabrina in 666 city (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up on a map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our best wishes.Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: Welcome Belial and Sabrina,(No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these pages, and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them.You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of yoga, though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. The focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we come to fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also systematic and powerful.Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. They are both highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and constantly (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us who practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and realize God. Divine Mother's blessings to you both.Chris, "bobdeinlein" <bobdeinlein> wrote:> Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We > must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to everyone.> Belial and Sabrina Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Dear Bob, Thanks for your response and concern. You are right about the HER just being an emphasis. The " HER" was referring to the creative aspect of the eternal source. The gender was meant to be more of a descriptive association. The eternal source is beyond gender and encompasses all of creation. Thank you for your respect. The only prerequisite for this group is to know that you are alive. God bless you with pure devotion and wisdom. , Bob Deinlein <bobdeinlein> wrote: > According to my records the Moderator invited me to this group. I have worked parttime for an Attorney for 17 years, and am a retired veteran. I wrote all of that to say this, I and my lady are financially independent, and part of what I do is travel to different places and search out rare ancient books for knowledge. What I think I saw is a bit troubling to me, because I saw a post by a lady in this group, saying that we had to experience the Divine Mother, until we become HER. I know that on the internet capitalizing letters is considered shouting, but I'm sure she meant to emphasize the word "her". I bought a book on the Goddesses worshiped in India and among Hindus, and in the preface to the book it says that those who worship the Goddesses take on their characteristics. My orientation is not of that type, though I realize that in the 21st century there are people like that. Nothing seems to change them, and it is their business, and none of them (the men) have ever > harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if we are to experience Hinduism. > The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. Money does not buy peace of spirit. > Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right to worship as you please. > Belial and Sabrina in 666 city (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up on a map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our best wishes. > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > Welcome Belial and Sabrina, > > (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your > heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these pages, > and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them. > > You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of yoga, > though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. The > focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we come to > fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the > world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also systematic > and powerful. > > Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. They are both > highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and constantly > (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us who > practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and realize > God. > > Divine Mother's blessings to you both. > > Chris > > > > , "bobdeinlein" <bobdeinlein> > wrote: > > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a > > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We > > must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But > > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to > everyone. > > Belial and Sabrina > > > > Sponsor > var lrec_target="_top";var lrec_URL = new Array();lrec_URL[1] = "http://rd./SIG=129cr7p6b/M=295196.4901138.60502 64.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083524961/A= 1874381/R=0/id=flashurl/SIG=118tuuldn/*http://companion.yaho o.com/?.cpdl=srch";var link="javascript:LRECopenWindow(1)";var lrec_flashfile = 'http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302_ v1_mal_lrec_01.swf?clickTAG='+link+'';var lrec_altURL = "http://rd./SIG=129cr7p6b/M=295196.4901138.60502 64.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083524961/A= 1874381/R=1/id=altimgurl/SIG=118tuuldn/*http://companion.yah oo.com/?.cpdl=srch";var lrec_altimg = "http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302 _v1_mal_lrec_01.gif";var lrec_width = 300;var lrec_height = 250; > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 I think that some members write of a very spiritual person that is the leader? Could you tell me more of him or her? I have found Hindu teachers very god/goddess oriented in the past, and only live a life of love and devotion to helping humanity. I would like to study these teachings, but being a new member, some of the terminology is beyond me. Know that we only wish light and love for all of you, Belial and Sabrinaparv108 <parv108 > wrote: Dear Bob,Thanks for your response and concern. You are right about the HER just being an emphasis. The " HER" was referring to the creative aspect of the eternal source. The gender was meant to be more of a descriptive association. The eternal source is beyond gender and encompasses all of creation. Thank you for your respect. The only prerequisite for this group is to know that you are alive. God bless you with pure devotion and wisdom.--- In , Bob Deinlein <bobdeinlein> wrote:> According to my records the Moderator invited me to this group. I have worked parttime for an Attorney for 17 years, and am a retired veteran. I wrote all of that to say this, I and my lady are financially independent, and part of what I do is travel to different places and search out rare ancient books for knowledge. What I think I saw is a bit troubling to me, because I saw a post by a lady in this group, saying that we had to experience the Divine Mother, until we become HER. I know that on the internet capitalizing letters is considered shouting, but I'm sure she meant to emphasize the word "her". I bought a book on the Goddesses worshiped in India and among Hindus, and in the preface to the book it says that those who worship the Goddesses take on their characteristics. My orientation is not of that type, though I realize that in the 21st century there are people like that. Nothing seems to change them, and it is their business, and none of them (the men) have ever> harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if we are to experience Hinduism.> The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. Money does not buy peace of spirit.> Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right to worship as you please.> Belialand Sabrina in 666 city (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up ona map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our best wishes.> > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote:> Welcome Belial and Sabrina,> > (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your > heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these pages, > and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them.> > You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of yoga, > though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. The > focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we come to > fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the > world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is alsosystematic > and powerful.> > Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. They are both > highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and constantly > (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us who > practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and realize > God. > > Divine Mother's blessings to you both.> > Chris> > > > --- In , "bobdeinlein" <bobdeinlein> > wrote:> > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a > > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We > > must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But > > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to > everyone.> > Belial and Sabrina> > > > Sponsor> var lrec_target="_top";var lrec_URL = new Array();lrec_URL[1] = "http://rd./SIG=129cr7p6b/M=295196.4901138.6050264.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083524961/A=1874381/R=0/id=flashurl/SIG=118tuuldn/*http://companion./?.cpdl=srch";var link="javascript:LRECopenWindow(1)";var lrec_flashfile = 'http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302_v1_mal_lrec_01.swf?clickTAG='+link+'';var lrec_altURL = "http://rd./SIG=129cr7p6b/M=295196.4901138.6050264.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083524961/A=1874381/R=1/id=altimgurl/SIG=118tuuldn/*http://companion./?.cpdl=srch";var lrec_altimg = "http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302_v1_mal_lrec_01.gif";var lrec_width = 300;var lrec_height = 250;> > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Dear Bob, I hope Parvati (whose reply below you liked) can help answer regarding the mantra that you are looking for. She is the senior disciple of Shree Maa and Swami Satyananda Saraswati - you can find out all about them at http://www.shreemaa.org. But in brief, here are their Bios Shree Maa is an Indian saint who performed extreme austerities in the Himalayan foothills. She wandered throughout India for several years worshipping in temples, forests, and homes. Inspired by her Guru Ramakrishna, she moved to the USA to share divine love and teach the meaning of Dharma. She has a honey like voice - you can hear samples of Maa's songs at http://www.shreemaa.org/media.htm Swami Satyananda Saraswati, aka simply as Swamiji, spent several years in the Himalayas. He learned Sanskrit and many of the local languages along the way. He was initiated into the worship of Chandi and fire ceremony. He has translated numerous ancient books from Sanskrit to English. You can check out the books that are available at http://www.shreemaa.org/bookstore.htm Bob, you mentioned that you "hit the ground running" and you were looking for ways to get your work done appropriately. It hit home, because I am on call a lot too . One of the things that Swamiji keeps telling us is to learn to improve our efficiency. If you look at the mission statement of the group , you would see "Our goal is to create the desire in you to follow the example of the Sadhus (the efficient ones ) and the rishis ( the wise ones). " We are all working towards optimum efficiency , and is there one mantra that can do it for us ? I dont know, but I sure do know that if we keep worship as the goal of our lives, we will start working in such a way that we get our lives in order so that we can focus more on our practices . Thus efficiency is established , not as an end unto itself, but as a means to reach your goal of worship. If you really would like to learn some of these teachings, we are here to help where we can to clarify on terminology. Please do not hesitate to ask questions - anything asked with the attitude of learning and sincere respect is more than welcome. We look forward to hearing from you and anyone else here with similar questions. Best Wishes Latha - the moderator that invited you :-) , Bob Deinlein <bobdeinlein> wrote: > I'll have to admit I really liked that reply. According to everything I've studied, and learned personally, the supreme being must be above gender. Everything I've seen and heard about this group so far I've found extremely admirable. I have even come into contact with Hindu believers in this Kansas City, and other places, over a period of many years, and have always found true followers are filled with a desire towards light and love. Now I have a question. I have to "hit the ground running" when my boss calls me to work at times, and I am almost literally on call 24 hours a day. Could someone out there give me a mantra for the ability to get things done appropriately? If so I would certainly appreciate it. > I think that some members write of a very spiritual person that is the leader? Could you tell me more of him or her? I have found Hindu teachers very god/goddess oriented in the past, and only live a life of love and devotion to helping humanity. I would like to study these teachings, but being a new member, some of the terminology is beyond me. > Know that we only wish light and love for all of you, > Belial and Sabrina > > parv108 <parv108> wrote: > Dear Bob, > Thanks for your response and concern. You are right about the > HER just being an emphasis. The " HER" was referring to the > creative aspect of the eternal source. The gender was meant to > be more of a descriptive association. The eternal source is > beyond gender and encompasses all of creation. Thank you for > your respect. The only prerequisite for this group is to know that > you are alive. God bless you with pure devotion and wisdom. > > > > > , Bob Deinlein > <bobdeinlein> wrote: > > According to my records the Moderator invited me to this > group. I have worked parttime for an Attorney for 17 years, and > am a retired veteran. I wrote all of that to say this, I and my lady > are financially independent, and part of what I do is travel to > different places and search out rare ancient books for > knowledge. What I think I saw is a bit troubling to me, because I > saw a post by a lady in this group, saying that we had to > experience the Divine Mother, until we become HER. I know that > on the internet capitalizing letters is considered shouting, but I'm > sure she meant to emphasize the word "her". I bought a book on > the Goddesses worshiped in India and among Hindus, and in > the preface to the book it says that those who worship the > Goddesses take on their characteristics. My orientation is not of > that type, though I realize that in the 21st century there are people > like that. Nothing seems to change them, and it is their > business, and none of them (the men) have ever > > harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and > actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, > then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the > teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if > we are to experience Hinduism. > > The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is > retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his > uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. > Money does not buy peace of spirit. > > Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right > to worship as you please. > > Belial > and Sabrina in 666 city > (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up on > a > map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in > Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our > best wishes. > > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > > Welcome Belial and Sabrina, > > > > (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your > > heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these > pages, > > and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them. > > > > You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of > yoga, > > though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. > The > > focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we > come to > > fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the > > world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also > systematic > > and powerful. > > > > Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. > They are both > > highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and > constantly > > (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us > who > > practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and > realize > > God. > > > > Divine Mother's blessings to you both. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > , "bobdeinlein" > <bobdeinlein> > > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. > Had a > > > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. > We > > > must read these messages for awhile before we make > comments. But > > > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > > > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > > > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. Best wishes to > > everyone. > > > Belial and Sabrina > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > var lrec_target="_top";var lrec_URL = new Array();lrec_URL[1] = > "http://rd./SIG=129cr7p6b/M=295196.4901138.60502 > 64.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083524961/A= > 1874381/R=0/id=flashurl/SIG=118tuuldn/*http://companion.yaho > o.com/?.cpdl=srch";var > link="javascript:LRECopenWindow(1)";var lrec_flashfile = > 'http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302_ > v1_mal_lrec_01.swf?clickTAG='+link+'';var lrec_altURL = > "http://rd./SIG=129cr7p6b/M=295196.4901138.60502 > 64.3001176/D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083524961/A= > 1874381/R=1/id=altimgurl/SIG=118tuuldn/*http://companion.yah > oo.com/?.cpdl=srch";var lrec_altimg = > "http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302 > _v1_mal_lrec_01.gif";var lrec_width = 300;var lrec_height = 250; > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs > > > > Sponsor > var lrec_target="_top";var lrec_URL = new Array();lrec_URL[1] = "http://rd./SIG=129vuchef/M=295196.4901138.6050264.3001176 /D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083549096/A=1874382/R=0/id=flashurl/SI G=118tuuldn/*http://companion./?.cpdl=srch";var link="javascript:LRECopenWindow(1)";var lrec_flashfile = 'http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302_v1_nws_ lrec_01.swf?clickTAG='+link+'';var lrec_altURL = "http://rd./SIG=129vuchef/M=295196.4901138.6050264.3001176 /D=groups/S=1705075991:HM/EXP=1083549096/A=1874382/R=1/id=altimgurl/S IG=118tuuldn/*http://companion./?.cpdl=srch";var lrec_altimg = "http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/ya/_companion/302_v1_nws_ lrec_01.gif";var lrec_width = 300;var lrec_height = 250; > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 To learn of our teachers, Shree Maa, a holy woman from India, and Swamiji (Swami Satyananda Saraswati) a holy man born in America who lived twenty years in India, look at their site <shreemaa.org>. They live in Napa, CA at their temple, the Devi Mandir. Devi Mandir means a temple dedicated to the Goddess. Bob Deinlein <bobdeinlein > Sat, 1 May 2004 19:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Cc: bobdeinlein Re: Re: New Member I'll have to admit I really liked that reply. According to everything I've studied, and learned personally, the supreme being must be above gender. Everything I've seen and heard about this group so far I've found extremely admirable. I have even come into contact with Hindu believers in this Kansas City, and other places, over a period of many years, and have always found true followers are filled with a desire towards light and love. Now I have a question. I have to "hit the ground running" when my boss calls me to work at times, and I am almost literally on call 24 hours a day. Could someone out there give me a mantra for the ability to get things done appropriately? If so I would certainly appreciate it. I think that some members write of a very spiritual person that is the leader? Could you tell me more of him or her? I have found Hindu teachers very god/goddess oriented in the past, and only live a life of love and devotion to helping humanity. I would like to study these teachings, but being a new member, some of the terminology is beyond me. Know that we only wish light and love for all of you, Belial and Sabrina parv108 <parv108 > wrote: Dear Bob, Thanks for your response and concern. You are right about the HER just being an emphasis. The " HER" was referring to the creative aspect of the eternal source. The gender was meant to be more of a descriptive association. The eternal source is beyond gender and encompasses all of creation. Thank you for your respect. The only prerequisite for this group is to know that you are alive. God bless you with pure devotion and wisdom. , Bob Deinlein <bobdeinlein> wrote: > According to my records the Moderator invited me to this group. I have worked parttime for an Attorney for 17 years, and am a retired veteran. I wrote all of that to say this, I and my lady are financially independent, and part of what I do is travel to different places and search out rare ancient books for knowledge. What I think I saw is a bit troubling to me, because I saw a post by a lady in this group, saying that we had to experience the Divine Mother, until we become HER. I know that on the internet capitalizing letters is considered shouting, but I'm sure she meant to emphasize the word "her". I bought a book on the Goddesses worshiped in India and among Hindus, and in the preface to the book it says that those who worship the Goddesses take on their characteristics. My orientation is not of that type, though I realize that in the 21st century there are people like that. Nothing seems to change them, and it is their business, and none of them (the men) have ever > harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if we are to experience Hinduism. > The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. Money does not buy peace of spirit. > Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right to worship as you please. > Belial and Sabrina in 666 city (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up on a map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our best wishes. > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > Welcome Belial and Sabrina, > > (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your > heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these pages, > and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them. > > You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of yoga, > though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. The > focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we come to > fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the > world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also systematic > and powerful. > > Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. They are both > highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and constantly > (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us who > practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and realize > God. > > Divine Mother's blessings to you both. > > Chris > > > > , "bobdeinlein" <bobdeinlein> > wrote: > > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a > > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We > > must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But > > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Namaste and Welcome, >From my perspective there is no gender for the creator. The creator created gender and would thus have to be both genders. When I speak of consciousness, I think of her as the creator of the universe and thus it suits me to think of her as mother, literally giving birth to creation. When I talk of becoming like Maa, I mean learning to love unconditionally, to forgive absolutely, and to accept all that creation manifests in my life. God loves us. Period. There are no ifs ands or buts. We should love each other the way she loves us, the way a mother should love a child. Consciousness, the space between the thoughts, is neither masculine or feminine, and yet, like a globe can be viewed from many perspectives. Each perspective has its own unique qualities. So the Hindus have created a system of classification for the various aspects of god and assigned very meaningful names to them in an attempt to pelt devotees with enough mental understanding to cause a spontaneous awakening (that is coming to awareness) of consciousness. Personally, my deity is Maha Maya, and my path basically Karma Yoga. I learn from mother through her mechanisms, through the creation that tests our awareness of awareness. There is a lot of wonderful things to absorb from this teaching, please don't pass it by due to a misunderstanding of the word "Maa." Welcome once again and Goddess Bless, Brian At 04:05 PM 5/1/2004, you wrote: According to my records the Moderator invited me to this group. I have worked parttime for an Attorney for 17 years, and am a retired veteran. I wrote all of that to say this, I and my lady are financially independent, and part of what I do is travel to different places and search out rare ancient books for knowledge. What I think I saw is a bit troubling to me, because I saw a post by a lady in this group, saying that we had to experience the Divine Mother, until we become HER. I know that on the internet capitalizing letters is considered shouting, but I'm sure she meant to emphasize the word "her". I bought a book on the Goddesses worshiped in India and among Hindus, and in the preface to the book it says that those who worship the Goddesses take on their characteristics. My orientation is not of that type, though I realize that in the 21st century there are people like that. Nothing seems to change them, and it is their business, and none of them (the men) have ever harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if we are to experience Hinduism. The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. Money does not buy peace of spirit. Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right to worship as you please. Belial and Sabrina in 666 city (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up on a map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our best wishes. Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: Welcome Belial and Sabrina, (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these pages, and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them. You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of yoga, though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. The focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we come to fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also systematic and powerful. Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. They are both highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and constantly (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us who practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and realize God. Divine Mother's blessings to you both. Chris , "bobdeinlein" <bobdeinlein> wrote: > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. Had a > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. We > must read these messages for awhile before we make comments. But > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. 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Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 i like your attitude. question everything. there is a lot to learn, there is also only one thing to learn. peace to you in the midst of your journey. i hope to see you around ... steve c. , Bob Deinlein <bobdeinlein> wrote: > I'll have to admit I really liked that reply. According to everything I've studied, and learned personally, the supreme being must be above gender. Everything I've seen and heard about this group so far I've found extremely admirable. I have even come into contact with Hindu believers in this Kansas City, and other places, over a period of many years, and have always found true followers are filled with a desire towards light and love. Now I have a question. I have to "hit the ground running" when my boss calls me to work at times, and I am almost literally on call 24 hours a day. Could someone out there give me a mantra for the ability to get things done appropriately? If so I would certainly appreciate it. > I think that some members write of a very spiritual person that is the leader? Could you tell me more of him or her? I have found Hindu teachers very god/goddess oriented in the past, and only live a life of love and devotion to helping humanity. I would like to study these teachings, but being a new member, some of the terminology is beyond me. > Know that we only wish light and love for all of you, > Belial and Sabrina > > parv108 <parv108> wrote: > Dear Bob, > Thanks for your response and concern. You are right about the > HER just being an emphasis. The " HER" was referring to the > creative aspect of the eternal source. The gender was meant to > be more of a descriptive association. The eternal source is > beyond gender and encompasses all of creation. Thank you for > your respect. The only prerequisite for this group is to know that > you are alive. God bless you with pure devotion and wisdom. > > > > > , Bob Deinlein > <bobdeinlein> wrote: > > According to my records the Moderator invited me to this > group. I have worked parttime for an Attorney for 17 years, and > am a retired veteran. I wrote all of that to say this, I and my lady > are financially independent, and part of what I do is travel to > different places and search out rare ancient books for > knowledge. What I think I saw is a bit troubling to me, because I > saw a post by a lady in this group, saying that we had to > experience the Divine Mother, until we become HER. I know that > on the internet capitalizing letters is considered shouting, but I'm > sure she meant to emphasize the word "her". I bought a book on > the Goddesses worshiped in India and among Hindus, and in > the preface to the book it says that those who worship the > Goddesses take on their characteristics. My orientation is not of > that type, though I realize that in the 21st century there are people > like that. Nothing seems to change them, and it is their > business, and none of them (the men) have ever > > harmed me in any way, but if taking on the characteristics and > actions of a female Goddess is a prerequisite for this group, > then I respect you, but think I and we (meaning Sabrina, the > teen-aged witch) need to contact a more male oriented group if > we are to experience Hinduism. > > The law office I work for--the Attorney that owns the firm is > retiring, and the man who is buying out the firm (Judd), one of his > uncles is directly in charge of Mircosoft for all of North America. > Money does not buy peace of spirit. > > Anyway let us know, and know that we do respect your right > to worship as you please. > > Belial > and Sabrina in 666 city > (believe it or not, that is really our zip-code here. Look it up on > a > map if you have any doubts. Drives the Christians here in > Kansas nuts with superstitious fear). Believe me--you have our > best wishes. > > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > > Welcome Belial and Sabrina, > > > > (No, I didn't invite you either...) I sincerely hope you find your > > heart's desire in the grace and devotion represented in these > pages, > > and more especially, in the divinity that inspires them. > > > > You'll find the teachings here quite different than the path of > yoga, > > though yogic disciplines are part of the discipline here, too. > The > > focus here is on the systems of worship, through which we > come to > > fully realize the presence of the divine, in our hearts and in the > > world. It is a path of devotion, foremost, but it is also > systematic > > and powerful. > > > > Shree Maa and Swamiji are our examples and our guides. > They are both > > highly advanced and compassionate, worthy of devotion, and > constantly > > (I believe) engaged in helping (on a subtle level) those of us > who > > practice their teachings with a pure desire to worship and > realize > > God. > > > > Divine Mother's blessings to you both. > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > , "bobdeinlein" > <bobdeinlein> > > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, we are Belial and Sabrina, new members. > Had a > > > very curteous invitation to visit this web-site and then join. > We > > > must read these messages for awhile before we make > comments. But > > > let us add that we came (or at least I did, Belial) into contact > > > with the Hindu religion through the writings of Paramahansa > > > Yogananda, about all that we know about it. 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