Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Lord Krishna wanted to test the wisdom of his kings. One day he summoned a king called Duryodana. Duryodana was well known throughout the land for his cruelty and miserliness, and his subjects lived in terror. Lord Krishna said to King Duryodana, "I want you to go and travel the world over and find for me one truly good man." Duryodana replied, "Yes, Lord," and obediently began his search. He met and spoke with many people, and after much time had passed he returned to Lord Krishna saying, "Lord, I have done as you have asked and searched the world over for one truly good man. He is not to be found. All of them are selfish and wicked. Nowhere is there to be found this good man you seek!" Lord Krishna sent him away and called another king called Dharmaraja. He was a king well known for his generosity and benevolence and well loved by all his people. Krishna said to him, "King Dharmaraja, I wish for you to travel the world over and bring to me one truly wicked man." Dharmaraja also obeyed, and on his travels met and spoke with many people. After much time had passed he returned to Krishna saying, "Lord, I have failed you. There are people who are misguided, people who are misled, people who act in blindness but nowhere could I find one truly evil man. They are all good at heart despite their failings!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 what do swamiji and maa say when various spiritual teachers speak of "final realization" or "complete, liberation?" steve , "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> wrote: > Lord Krishna wanted to test the wisdom of his kings. One day he > summoned a king called Duryodana. Duryodana was well known > throughout the land for his cruelty and miserliness, and his > subjects lived in terror. > > Lord Krishna said to King Duryodana, "I want you to go and travel > the world over and find for me one truly good man." > > Duryodana replied, "Yes, Lord," and obediently began his search. > > He met and spoke with many people, and after much time had passed he > returned to Lord Krishna saying, "Lord, I have done as you have > asked and searched the world over for one truly good man. He is not > to be found. All of them are selfish and wicked. Nowhere is there to > be found this good man you seek!" > > Lord Krishna sent him away and called another king called > Dharmaraja. He was a king well known for his generosity and > benevolence and well loved by all his people. > > Krishna said to him, "King Dharmaraja, I wish for you to travel the > world over and bring to me one truly wicked man." Dharmaraja also > obeyed, and on his travels met and spoke with many people. > > After much time had passed he returned to Krishna saying, "Lord, I > have failed you. There are people who are misguided, people who are > misled, people who act in blindness but nowhere could I find one > truly evil man. They are all good at heart despite their failings!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Steve, >From what I recall, they have said that there is no final resting spot as in there is no end to infinity ...but I will forward your question to Swamiji. Jai Maa Latha , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...> wrote: > what do swamiji and maa say when various spiritual teachers speak > of "final realization" or "complete, liberation?" > > steve > > , "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> > wrote: > > Lord Krishna wanted to test the wisdom of his kings. One day he > > summoned a king called Duryodana. Duryodana was well known > > throughout the land for his cruelty and miserliness, and his > > subjects lived in terror. > > > > Lord Krishna said to King Duryodana, "I want you to go and travel > > the world over and find for me one truly good man." > > > > Duryodana replied, "Yes, Lord," and obediently began his search. > > > > He met and spoke with many people, and after much time had passed > he > > returned to Lord Krishna saying, "Lord, I have done as you have > > asked and searched the world over for one truly good man. He is > not > > to be found. All of them are selfish and wicked. Nowhere is there > to > > be found this good man you seek!" > > > > Lord Krishna sent him away and called another king called > > Dharmaraja. He was a king well known for his generosity and > > benevolence and well loved by all his people. > > > > Krishna said to him, "King Dharmaraja, I wish for you to travel > the > > world over and bring to me one truly wicked man." Dharmaraja also > > obeyed, and on his travels met and spoke with many people. > > > > After much time had passed he returned to Krishna saying, "Lord, I > > have failed you. There are people who are misguided, people who > are > > misled, people who act in blindness but nowhere could I find one > > truly evil man. They are all good at heart despite their failings!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 i think [think] i know his answer, or his general sense of this. a friend of mine e-mailed him once and asked him this directly, and he alluded to the same answer you have given. his and shree maa's pov on this is unique, at least among many of the gurus and teachings i am aware of. perhaps not unique in a wider perspective of more classical hinduism ... i don't know. it certainly would coincide with this concept of the goddess in the chandi path that both is our liberation as well as the cause of bondage ... iow, the lila and the knowledge, all in one beingness we address. the point is, our expectations, the scaffolding we are building sadhana on. the concept of a final realization ... not that, does he believe in it or not, but can he comment on it ... how it affects the devotees sadhana, how it affects the state of spiritual development on the individual level in the kali yuga. in other words, what is the IMPACT of the "belief" in final realization ... does it limit a person's devotions, or make them exceed themselves? why do various "great" teachers suggest there is a final realization? i hope the sense and motive for my question are coming through. steve , "Latha Nanda" <lathananda> wrote: > Steve, > From what I recall, they have said that there is no final resting > spot as in there is no end to infinity ...but I will forward your question to Swamiji. > Jai Maa > Latha > > > , "Steve Connor" <sconnor@a...> > wrote: > > what do swamiji and maa say when various spiritual teachers speak > > of "final realization" or "complete, liberation?" > > > > steve > > > > , "Latha Nanda" > <lathananda> > > wrote: > > > Lord Krishna wanted to test the wisdom of his kings. One day he > > > summoned a king called Duryodana. Duryodana was well known > > > throughout the land for his cruelty and miserliness, and his > > > subjects lived in terror. > > > > > > Lord Krishna said to King Duryodana, "I want you to go and > travel > > > the world over and find for me one truly good man." > > > > > > Duryodana replied, "Yes, Lord," and obediently began his search. > > > > > > He met and spoke with many people, and after much time had > passed > > he > > > returned to Lord Krishna saying, "Lord, I have done as you have > > > asked and searched the world over for one truly good man. He is > > not > > > to be found. All of them are selfish and wicked. Nowhere is > there > > to > > > be found this good man you seek!" > > > > > > Lord Krishna sent him away and called another king called > > > Dharmaraja. He was a king well known for his generosity and > > > benevolence and well loved by all his people. > > > > > > Krishna said to him, "King Dharmaraja, I wish for you to travel > > the > > > world over and bring to me one truly wicked man." Dharmaraja > also > > > obeyed, and on his travels met and spoke with many people. > > > > > > After much time had passed he returned to Krishna saying, "Lord, > I > > > have failed you. There are people who are misguided, people who > > are > > > misled, people who act in blindness but nowhere could I find one > > > truly evil man. They are all good at heart despite their > failings!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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