Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around I saw only the last part. Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach the "undividable" or the true self. They refered back to things they already explained but which I had missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ?Vahna? or knowledge. Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been taken another path (like Bakhti yoga). They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am". This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in Islam. So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place. Peace and love to all of you, abn_Hafiz Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 abn Hafiz, Yes! God is One. Chris , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > Hello, > > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around I saw only the last part. > > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach the "undividable" or the true self. > > They refered back to things they already explained but which I had missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ? Vahna? or knowledge. > > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been taken another path (like Bakhti yoga). > > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am". > > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in Islam. > > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place. > > Peace and love to all of you, > abn_Hafiz > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2004 Report Share Posted May 15, 2004 laughing at the word two Only That Illumined One Who keeps Seducing the formless into form Had the charm to win my Heart. Only a Perfect One Who is always Laughing at the word Two Can make you know Of Love. 'The Gift' translated by Daniel Ladinsky Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: abn Hafiz,Yes! God is One.Chris, abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote:> Hello,> > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around I saw only the last part.> > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach the "undividable" or the true self.> > They refered back to things they already explained but which I had missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ?Vahna? or knowledge.> > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been taken another path (like Bakhti yoga).> > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am".> > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in Islam.> > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place.> > Peace and love to all of you,> abn_Hafiz> > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Very beautiful. Chris , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > laughing at the word two > Only > That Illumined > One > Who keeps > Seducing the formless into form > Had the charm to win my > Heart. > Only a Perfect One > Who is always > Laughing at the word > Two > Can make you know > Of > Love. > 'The Gift' translated by Daniel Ladinsky > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote:abn Hafiz, > > Yes! > > God is One. > > Chris > > > , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around > I saw only the last part. > > > > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach > the "undividable" or the true self. > > > > They refered back to things they already explained but which I had > missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ? > Vahna? or knowledge. > > > > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when > you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been > taken another path (like Bakhti yoga). > > > > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to > describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had > contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am". > > > > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in > Islam. > > > > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / > God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place. > > > > Peace and love to all of you, > > abn_Hafiz > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends > today! Download Messenger Now > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Might seem strange for a grown man to do, but it just touched something. You might say that energy that was blocked was released by it :-) I don't know. I could just relate to many things that were mentioned and to me some (key) puzzle parts fell in place. I hope we can all continue our way to The Friend. Peace and love to all, abn_Hafiz Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: Very beautiful.Chris, abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote:> laughing at the word two> Only > That Illumined > One > Who keeps > Seducing the formless into form > Had the charm to win my > Heart. > Only a Perfect One > Who is always > Laughing at the word > Two > Can make you know > Of > Love. > 'The Gift' translated by Daniel Ladinsky > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote:abn Hafiz,> > Yes! > > God is One.> > Chris> > > , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote:> > Hello,> > > > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around > I saw only the last part.> > > > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach > the "undividable" or the true self.> > > > They refered back to things they already explained but which I had > missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ?> Vahna? or knowledge.> > > > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when > you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been > taken another path (like Bakhti yoga).> > > > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to > describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had > contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am".> > > > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in > Islam.> > > > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / > God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place.> > > > Peace and love to all of you,> > abn_Hafiz> > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends > today! Download Messenger Now> > > > Sponsor> > > > Links> > To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 What a great poem! Thank you! abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Sat, 15 May 2004 22:16:34 +0100 (BST) Re: Re: Vendanta yoga laughing at the word two Only That Illumined One Who keeps Seducing the formless into form Had the charm to win my Heart. Only a Perfect One Who is always Laughing at the word Two Can make you know Of Love. 'The Gift' translated by Daniel Ladinsky Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: abn Hafiz, Yes! God is One. Chris , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > Hello, > > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around I saw only the last part. > > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach the "undividable" or the true self. > > They refered back to things they already explained but which I had missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ? Vahna? or knowledge. > > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been taken another path (like Bakhti yoga). > > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am". > > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in Islam. > > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place. > > Peace and love to all of you, > abn_Hafiz > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2004 Report Share Posted May 16, 2004 Thank you for your kind blessings. abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz (AT) (DOT) co.uk> Sun, 16 May 2004 22:00:18 +0100 (BST) Re: Re: Vendanta yoga The first time I read the poetry of Yunus Emre I had to cry. Might seem strange for a grown man to do, but it just touched something. You might say that energy that was blocked was released by it :-) I don't know. I could just relate to many things that were mentioned and to me some (key) puzzle parts fell in place. I hope we can all continue our way to The Friend. Peace and love to all, abn_Hafiz Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956 > wrote: Very beautiful. Chris , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > laughing at the word two > Only > That Illumined > One > Who keeps > Seducing the formless into form > Had the charm to win my > Heart. > Only a Perfect One > Who is always > Laughing at the word > Two > Can make you know > Of > Love. > 'The Gift' translated by Daniel Ladinsky > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote:abn Hafiz, > > Yes! > > God is One. > > Chris > > > , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > > Hello, > > > > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping around > I saw only the last part. > > > > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach > the "undividable" or the true self. > > > > They refered back to things they already explained but which I had > missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ? > Vahna? or knowledge. > > > > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and when > you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been > taken another path (like Bakhti yoga). > > > > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to > describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had > contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am". > > > > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found in > Islam. > > > > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / > God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place. > > > > Peace and love to all of you, > > abn_Hafiz > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends > today! Download Messenger Now > > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Sponsor / <?subject=Un> Terms of Service <> . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2004 Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 Not strange at all... Chris , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > The first time I read the poetry of Yunus Emre I had to cry. > > Might seem strange for a grown man to do, but it just touched something. > > You might say that energy that was blocked was released by it :-) I don't know. > > I could just relate to many things that were mentioned and to me some (key) puzzle parts fell in place. > > I hope we can all continue our way to The Friend. > > Peace and love to all, > abn_Hafiz > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote: > Very beautiful. > > Chris > > > > > , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> wrote: > > laughing at the word two > > Only > > That Illumined > > One > > Who keeps > > Seducing the formless into form > > Had the charm to win my > > Heart. > > Only a Perfect One > > Who is always > > Laughing at the word > > Two > > Can make you know > > Of > > Love. > > 'The Gift' translated by Daniel Ladinsky > > > > > > Chris Kirner <chriskirner1956> wrote:abn Hafiz, > > > > Yes! > > > > God is One. > > > > Chris > > > > > > , abn Hafiz <abn_hafiz> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > today I saw a program about Hinduism on tv, as I was zapping > around > > I saw only the last part. > > > > > > Appearantly the had been talking about different ways to reach > > the "undividable" or the true self. > > > > > > They refered back to things they already explained but which I > had > > missed (Bakhti yoga) and then explained briefly Vedanta yoga and ? > > Vahna? or knowledge. > > > > > > Through knowledge of the Self the "Undividable" is reached and > when > > you have arrived at this stage you will meet others who have been > > taken another path (like Bakhti yoga). > > > > > > They also mentioned the Biblical texts about God as "I am" to > > describe this and referred to Moses and Jesus who when they had > > contact with God mentioned him saying "I am who I am" or "I am". > > > > > > This same notion (with different names maybe) can also be found > in > > Islam. > > > > > > So maybe all people looking for the Self / Truth / Everlasting / > > God / Brahma / Allah someday meet in the same place. > > > > > > Peace and love to all of you, > > > abn_Hafiz > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends > > today! Download Messenger Now > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends > today! Download Messenger Now > > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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